FB: Midwest Conference

[hickory_cornhusker]

Notes from games not known as St. Norbert vs. Monmouth

LFC-LU
First two touchdowns of the game were defensive returns... LFC defense forced 6 turnovers (and there were three more fumbles they didn't recover)
LU only had 159 yards offense until their final drive against the Forester's backups (based on who made tackles). The Foresters weren't much better with 178 yards total offense. Defense and Special teams won this game for them.

Knox-Grinnell-
GC scores two touchdowns on 7 yards of offense (fumble return for a TD and a 2play 7 yard drive) though Bogard didn't play much in the second half-- (he is usually their kicker and didn't kick either in the second half). Not sure if this was an injury or precautionary.

Carroll-IC

Carroll and IC both get special teams touchdowns---CC with a 55 yard punt return, and 90 yard blocked punt return for IC-- if this is true, what was  CC doing punting inside their 20 yard line????Anyone see that play? Casper from Carroll has his career game 15 of 20 for 250yards.. including 3
Tocuhdown passes.. Niekamp has his season worrst game14 of 41 for under 240 yards.



Question for discussion--- who is THE best WR in the conference... this is the position that I think the conference is most talented at.


Jennings at IC, Carter at LFC, Gezella at SNC, Blodgett and Shephard at Monmouth, Ross at Beloit? any thoughts?

I was at the game. It was more like a 20 yard blocked punt return.

[basil991]

Congrats to LFC and Coach Cat on the win! However my other comments still stand, they need to do something else on offense. It seems the only two plays are run it up the gut for little or no yardage or a pass to Carter in the flat.  There has been limited use of screens, sweeps, options, playaction etc.  The defense has been outstanding this season by keeping the team in the game but they can't do it all.  This not necessarily a complaint but a question or suggestion.  It will be a long ride home unless they develop a less predictable game plan and execute better.

[MWCfan787]

Notes from games not known as St. Norbert vs. Monmouth

LFC-LU
First two touchdowns of the game were defensive returns... LFC defense forced 6 turnovers (and there were three more fumbles they didn't recover)
LU only had 159 yards offense until their final drive against the Forester's backups (based on who made tackles). The Foresters weren't much better with 178 yards total offense. Defense and Special teams won this game for them.

Knox-Grinnell-
GC scores two touchdowns on 7 yards of offense (fumble return for a TD and a 2play 7 yard drive) though Bogard didn't play much in the second half-- (he is usually their kicker and didn't kick either in the second half). Not sure if this was an injury or precautionary.

Carroll-IC

Carroll and IC both get special teams touchdowns---CC with a 55 yard punt return, and 90 yard blocked punt return for IC-- if this is true, what was  CC doing punting inside their 20 yard line????Anyone see that play? Casper from Carroll has his career game 15 of 20 for 250yards.. including 3
Tocuhdown passes.. Niekamp has his season worrst game14 of 41 for under 240 yards.



Question for discussion--- who is THE best WR in the conference... this is the position that I think the conference is most talented at.


Jennings at IC, Carter at LFC, Gezella at SNC, Blodgett and Shephard at Monmouth, Ross at Beloit? any thoughts?

It's hard for me to leave out Blodgett and Shep as a strong MC supporter, but Jennings is the best...no doubt.

[02 Warhawk]

So anyway..................... After Beloit runs the table, grabs a Pool C bid and has to go to Whitewater, have no fear MWC fans; they are 9-1 against the Warhawks.

I can't recall the last time UWW faced Beloit....

[badgerwarhawk]

There is a good reason for that '02.  The two teams have not met since 1912.

Based on the  WHITEWATER football media guide the series record against Beloit is 3-9.  WHITEWATER won games in 1896, 1904 and 1909.   

Not that it matters much. 

[ptp231]

It's hard for me to leave out Blodgett and Shep as a strong MC supporter, but Jennings is the best...no doubt.

It really is a good question and you could make an argument for just about any of them, for they are each very talented. The way I see it though is Jennings is benefited by the amount of times IC throws the ball, and with Monmouth, Tanney has something to do with it.

I think it comes down to Jennings and Carter. Not that numbers say everything but here are their career stats. Pretty similar.
Jennings     219catches  2969yrds   34tds  13.6/catch     6 rushes 1 yrds 1td     
Carter         187catches  2914yrds   34tds  15.6/catch     2 rushes 9yrds                 Throwing 2-4, 72, 2 TD

[scots fan]

 I was at the monmouth snc game Saturday and came away with 2 thoughts. First monmouths offense will keep them in every game this year. the second thought was monmouths defense needs to step it up to make a deep run into the playoffs.   the d line is very  very good and wells at safety is nasty .there were a couple of things that bothered me a40 yard rainbow bomb into double coverage for a tdown also to many receivers open deep middle. I am not sure why that happened i hope it was because berger was so elusive and created plays he was harassed all day and still made big plays.

[MWCfan787]

ptp231: Carter a really good receiver, but he doesn't make me say "wow" as much as Jennings.  I can't even imagine what he would do if he played for Monmouth.   Only one was first team preseason all-american, while the other didn't even make 2nd team.  Though that doesn't mean everything either.

[scottie]

1. Congrats to Monmouth. Your offense is VERY good. I find it possible, depending on the draw, that you could go a little deeper in the play-offs this year. That is if you can keep a couple of ego's in check.

SNCOLDAD - What, you spotted me???     Just kidding, I had to watch the game on the web as I'm sure you saw from my Pulitzer-worthy coverage on the previous page.  I'm surprised that nobody has prodded you today about the Ego comment, and you don't need to point out any players if you don't want to.  My guess is whatever unneccessary jubilation that occured was the result of ultra-competitive players who were ultra-excited about playing so well against an ultra-respected opponent.   

Best of luck to the Green Knights the rest of the way.  You are still in Scottie's Three to Watch.  Beloit on the other hand....   (Sorry The Roop)

[Scots4]

I am probably wrong, but I took the "ego" comment as a reference to Bell's 5-wide play against Wartburg that single-handedly cost Monmouth a deeper run last year in the playoffs.

[The Roop]

There is a good reason for that '02.  The two teams have not met since 1912.

Based on the  WHITEWATER football media guide the series record against Beloit is 3-9.  WHITEWATER won games in 1896, 1904 and 1909.   

Not that it matters much. 

Sure. Jump on the bandwagon now that you won't have to face Beloit in the playoffs.

[MWCfan787]

I am probably wrong, but I took the "ego" comment as a reference to Bell's 5-wide play against Wartburg that single-handedly cost Monmouth a deeper run last year in the playoffs.

C'mon!  Such a positive vibe all year, no references since the season has started on here, and there you go.

Ripon on the road scares me this week too.

[Redmen09]

Up by 10 with 5:00 min left still haunts me in my dreams.  We'll see if Ripon can have the success they had last time they faced Monmouth at home and squeaked out with a 27-20 win.  Last two years the series is tied 1-1 with the score Ripon 52 Monmouth 48.  Quite the rubber match on Saturday.  As nervous as I am for the RedHawk defense, I am excited for this true test of character for the Hawks.  Monmouth is for real.

[BoBo]

Got this from the Top 25 thread -- any thoughts from the MWC crew???

But at least the MWC title was won on Saturday - will they still play out the season?  (I was dying to type that, but didn't have the guts to do it on the MWC board! )

[SNCOLDAD]

scottie, no names are appropriate. It really does not matter any way. What happens down the road will happen. Nothing said here will change the outcome of games.

I was hopeful that you would make it at least to the final quarter. In fact someone asked if you showed up?   

Good games this weekend.