FB: Midwest Conference

[scottie]

That argument is pretty stale, but it glides off the tounge I guess.  SNC is having a damn good season.

Maybe Wartburg will live up to the hype in their next game.  Who is that against, again?    

[SNCOLDAD]

scottie, it absolutely is a stale tale. (a poet and didn't know it) But it will be what is said and used for the rest of the season I am afraid. You could add one more item. Our game after the Wartburg win was a real let down. I also found out that there was a little illness running around in the ranks that day. But never the less, the O was pretty flat. I think since then the team has redeemed itself pretty darn well. Let's see what happened this past Saturday. Team that averaged 26.9 points per game in conference held to ZERO. Or holding a team that averaged 381.9 yards per game of offense to somewhere around 130 yards!  Now that is some defense laying it on the then 2nd ranked offense in the MWC. Oh, and also the O puts in a strong showing. Beloit is not in the elite teams of the country or even the conference lately. But they are a much improved team whose stats show it.

Wartburg winning next week could help us out. But then again, you just never know what is in the minds of the NCAA selection team. We are a better team than the team that beat Wartburg at the beginning of the season. The Orange Knights are going to have to be a much better team in order to beat Central. But they have done it before.


So one more game to the regular season for the Green Knights. It was a great closing for Minahan. And I think a lot of young men are looking forward to this Saturday and a week off. 

Have to stay positive.

GO GREEN KNIGHTS

[mcwaterboy]

My apologies for misspelling Carroll and Ripon. You cannot blame though, I do attend Monmouth College  .  Maybe the message board should correct spell check. 

Congrats to the Scots for being #8, best in school history.  I really believe that either Whitewater, Central, or Monmouth will be moved to the North Region.  Otterbein losing I believe spices things up a bit.  I don't see the NCAA having 5 top ten teams in the same region if they can help it.  What do you guys think?

[tm343407]

What I don't get is how St. Norbert was (by extended rankings) No. 30 the week before they played Monmouth. After losing to the then No. 11 Fighting Scots, SNC has yet to receive one vote for the Top 25. How can that possibly be the case? I don't necessarily believe they should be in the Top 25, but how can SNC go from being No. 30 to not one person thinking they belong in the polls? Going by rankings, they were expected to lose that game.

Yet Otterbein loses to a Marietta team that isn't receiving a single vote and falls from 7 to 15. Yes, the MWC has yet to do anything in the postseason, but at least be consistent with your voting. If you don't believe the second team in the conference belongs in the polls, don't vote for them in the first place.

[tm343407]

With regards to the last post, I don't like to complain about the rankings much because i believe that regardless of ranking you have to prove it on the field, but SNC is a position where getting into the playoffs (or a better seed in the playoffs) can be largely affected by public opinion. I just don't understand the rationale behind the voting sometimes or how some voters could justify their rankings. I know some voters have publicized their polls, but I would love to hear the rationale with regards to my last post.

[Jester76]

 I don't see the NCAA having 5 top ten teams in the same region if they can help it.  What do you guys think?

Well back in the 2005 Season the west region bracket had five undefeated teams.  Check out this link http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/05/bracket.htm . So don't ever count on the selection committee not making a crazy decision like putting the top five teams in the same bracket.  The hope is that they wouldn't do that but who knows what they are thinking.

[Mr. Ypsi]

 I don't see the NCAA having 5 top ten teams in the same region if they can help it.  What do you guys think?

Well back in the 2005 Season the west region bracket had five undefeated teams.  Check out this link http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/05/bracket.htm . So don't ever count on the selection committee not making a crazy decision like putting the top five teams in the same bracket.  The hope is that they wouldn't do that but who knows what they are thinking.

Note that there were also 5 other undefeated teams.

It could be worse - last year's men's basketball tourney had #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, and #7 all in the same quadrant!  THAT is a 'bracket of death'!  (Not surprisingly, the sectional was MUCH more competitive than the Final Four.)

[Pat Coleman]

If you don't believe the second team in the conference belongs in the polls, don't vote for them in the first place.

With all due respect, before the St. Norbert/Monmouth game was played, there was certainly room for doubt as to which was No. 1 and which was No. 2, or if there was a No. 1/No. 1-A situation. The game, once it was played, made it fairly clear.

[tm343407]

If you don't believe the second team in the conference belongs in the polls, don't vote for them in the first place.

With all due respect, before the St. Norbert/Monmouth game was played, there was certainly room for doubt as to which was No. 1 and which was No. 2, or if there was a No. 1/No. 1-A situation. The game, once it was played, made it fairly clear.

Yea true. That's why I would like to see if the voters who were giving SNC votes had them ahead of Monmouth. I find it doubtful, but you never know. If not, then that voter should have expected (at least by their ranking) that MC win the game. Based upon the difference in rank (No. 11 to No. 30) was the margin of victory that surprising?

[DutchHawk]

That argument is pretty stale, but it glides off the tounge I guess.  SNC is having a damn good season.

Maybe Wartburg will live up to the hype in their next game.  Who is that against, again?    

Stale or not Im not trying to be a jerk but its the way it is. Wartburg is a 3, soon to be 4, loss team. If they were sitting at 9-0 now then youd have a better argument being as tho they went deep into the playoffs last year. As for the stale conference argument then prove me wrong this year Monmouth...go deep, regional final. And then the MWC will have a better case to get two teams in. Until then its just not a competitive enough group to justify it over any of the other West region conferences.

Not trying to make enemies here guys, so feel free to bash on me at will

[SNCOLDAD]

First off Dutch, I don't think we were referring to your stating the same thing again as the Stale Tale. You, and I and many others all have made it the Stale Tale.

#2 to DutchHawk, aren't we the cocky one.  " 3, soon to be 4, loss team. Lay it out there for the bulletin boards.

#3 to DutchHawk. The MWC from top to bottom is not a strong conference. But the top 2 teams are up there pretty darn consistent. Yes, the MWC has to step it up and they did last year. You have to start somewhere.

There is nothing wrong in wanting to take the next step. That may be going deep as you said. It also could mean looking for the 2nd team in the playoffs as others have said. Either one is a major next step. Just different paths to building the tradition stronger.

[DutchHawk]

First off Dutch, I don't think we were referring to your stating the same thing again as the Stale Tale. You, and I and many others all have made it the Stale Tale.

#2 to DutchHawk, aren't we the cocky one.  " 3, soon to be 4, loss team. Lay it out there for the bulletin boards.

#3 to DutchHawk. The MWC from top to bottom is not a strong conference. But the top 2 teams are up there pretty darn consistent. Yes, the MWC has to step it up and they did last year. You have to start somewhere.

There is nothing wrong in wanting to take the next step. That may be going deep as you said. It also could mean looking for the 2nd team in the playoffs as others have said. Either one is a major next step. Just different paths to building the tradition stronger.

My fault, thought it was about that. With that I apologize.

Its true you have to start somewhere, and that could be with Monmouth representing you guys well and winning a few games.

If Wartburg is using d3football.com message board quotes from me for motivation, or any team for that matter, they need to rearrange their priorities and motivational methods.

[SNCOLDAD]

I think all the teams use boards like this, newspaper interviews, and anything else they can for bulletin board fodder. 

I know you and Wartburg have a tremendous rivalry going. So I fully understand your "Confidence" that you display. 

[DutchHawk]

I think all the teams use boards like this, newspaper interviews, and anything else they can for bulletin board fodder. 

I know you and Wartburg have a tremendous rivalry going. So I fully understand your "Confidence" that you display. 

Well I cant say all teams, we never did at Central, only thing I ever remember seeing up on a bulletin board was the preseason pick by the coaches to have us 5th. (We ended up 1st)

Nobody cared in that locker room what people had ot say on here.

[SNCOLDAD]

How long ago was that? If it was more than a couple years, you might be surprised what is watched and used as motivation.