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OxyBob

Quote from: The Roop on November 12, 2009, 07:34:16 AM
It's called economics and the NCAA won't have any more west coast teams in the field than they have to. Since they only have to have two, that's all there will be.

Exactly right.

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MWCfan787

I hate to say it, but the projected field posted today on the main website makes alotta sense and it seems likely barring any crazy stuff.  It doesn't include St. Norbert.  :-\
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d-train

Quote from: The Roop on November 12, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
There are no viable Pool B candidates on the west coast this year so you get the 2 Pool As and no more.
Gotcha.  I didn't equate 'out there' to 'west coast' in your statement.   

Since the NWC now has an AQ (starting last year after adding Menlo a few years ago), only Chapman is evaluated in Pool B.

FightnScot77

Quote from: d-train on November 12, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: The Roop on November 12, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
There are no viable Pool B candidates on the west coast this year so you get the 2 Pool As and no more.
Gotcha.  I didn't equate 'out there' to 'west coast' in your statement.   

Since the NWC now has an AQ (starting last year after adding Menlo a few years ago), only Chapman is evaluated in Pool B.

Yes, no Pool B teams from the West, for the record, the following are noted by NCAA as Pool B teams (West Region) does have a twist no one has brought up....

Martin Luther College (6-3) could be Pool A AQ if Concordia (IL) stumbles this weekend. Right???
Chapman University (3-5)
Crown College (3-6)
Macalester College (2-8)
University of Minnesota, Morris (2-5)

If MLC gets in, They stay in west because of distance -- do the Scots get routed to north region?

Note mileage from Monmouth to following teams...highlighted teams on north...left off over 500 miles teams like Mt. Union (587) and Case Western (533) -- flying trips for them to us or us to them. ;D

Team                              Miles
Monmouth 10-0 10-0..............0
Illinois Wesleyan 8-1 8-1.......105
Coe 8-1 8-1.......................133
Central 10-0 10-0...............152
North Central (Ill.) 7-2 7-2....187
Concordia (Ill.) 8-1 8-1.........206
UW-Whitewater 7-0 9-0.......213
Wabash 7-1 8-1...................230
DePauw 7-1 7-1...................291
Trine 8-1 8-1........................354
St. Norbert 9-1 9-1..............355
St. Thomas 8-1 8-1..............383
Mount St. Joseph 9-0 9-0....386
Thomas More 9-0 9-0..........397
Martin Luther......................406
Wittenberg 7-0 9-0.............411
Ohio Northern 7-2 7-2........428
St. John's 9-0 9-0...............482

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scottie

An old-school rematch of Coe @ Monmouth sounds compelling.  At the time Coe left the MWC, they dominated.  That is unless Cornell beats them and SNC takes their rightful spot in the post season.  Then the new-skool MWC rematch would take place in Round II or Round III.   ;D

p.s.  The Roop: I never followed Monty Python.   :)
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d-train

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Quote from: FightnScot77 on November 12, 2009, 06:08:20 PM
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Martin Luther does not have a shot at any AQ - they are in Pool B like the other two Minn. schools and one Cali. school you mention.  They are far behind in the Pool B chase.

Concordia IL is followed by Lakeland and a couple other teams in the AQ chase in NATHC.  The NATHC champ (and/or a CCIW team) could go west if nec.  That's what they did with Aurora did last year, right?

The Roop

Quote from: MWCfan787 on November 12, 2009, 01:37:22 PM
I hate to say it, but the projected field posted today on the main website makes alotta sense and it seems likely barring any crazy stuff.  It doesn't include St. Norbert.  :-\

They had 3 mock brackets up before and this one appears to be #3. St. Norbert did make it in bracket #2, so I'd believe that one. It didn't have a 3rd west coast team as #1 did, nor a 2 loss team as #3 does. I'm sorry but after North Central went down they took Ohio Northern with them.
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DutchHawk

Quote from: scottie on November 12, 2009, 06:39:03 PM
An old-school rematch of Coe @ Monmouth sounds compelling.  At the time Coe left the MWC, they dominated.  That is unless Cornell beats them and SNC takes their rightful spot in the post season.  Then the new-skool MWC rematch would take place in Round II or Round III.   ;D

p.s.  The Roop: I never followed Monty Python.   :)

Damn I forgot thats where Coe came from!
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SNCOLDAD

I am really confused. How can I be wishing away a weekend  ???

By being anxious for the brackets, that is what I feel I am doing.  :-\


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DutchHawk

Quote from: SNCOLDAD on November 13, 2009, 05:26:05 PM
I am really confused. How can I be wishing away a weekend  ???

By being anxious for the brackets, that is what I feel I am doing.  :-\




Relax and try to enjoy it, turn on the Hawkeye Buckeye game at 230 central time, we may need some help! :) (not that we havent needed any all year!)
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SNCOLDAD

Last I saw the Hawkeyes need help. The other thing I noticed was SNC on the Coaches poll. Not bad!  :)

I see Coe made there final statement. As did St. Thomas. Not watching the West Coast teams. I think The Roop will have to explain later tonight what those games mean. I also have not heard how Lawrence is doing.

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The Roop

I still don't think SNC needed any help but they got some as Wartburg won and Dickinson lost. West coast games won't make any difference.
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FightnScot77

Quote from: SNCOLDAD on November 14, 2009, 05:31:01 PM
Last I saw the Hawkeyes need help. The other thing I noticed was SNC on the Coaches poll. Not bad!  :)

I see Coe made there final statement. As did St. Thomas. Not watching the West Coast teams. I think The Roop will have to explain later tonight what those games mean. I also have not heard how Lawrence is doing.


Congrats to the Vikings on finishing out with a win.  LU 21 UM-M 17.

Loras dropped a close one this week... again.
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The Roop

Should it come down to hair splitting, the LU win helps SNC too.
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MWCfan787

Quote from: The Roop on November 14, 2009, 05:44:45 PM
I still don't think SNC needed any help but they got some as Wartburg won and Dickinson lost. West coast games won't make any difference.

I just don't know how you can be so confident, are you just completely ignoring our conference's playoff history?  Two bids in the same conference is a big deal.  The WIAC, which most people agree is the best conf. in the country, isn't getting two bids.....but the MWC?

With all that said I'm still rooting for it...just very doubtful.
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