FB: Midwest Conference

[The Roop]

If geography was the issue then Wabash could go to Mt. Union and St. Norbert could go to IWU.

[MWCfan787]

They probably felt that punished Wabash, a pool C team ranked much higher than SNC.

Although speaking of punishing good teams they had no problem sending MHB to Central.  Still scratching my head on that one.

[The Roop]

Could be a lot of changes to the bracket no matter who made it in. Some of the match ups make no sense and at least to me, they added flights where they didn't have to.

[scottie]

Didn't see the selection show and am reacting on a form of post-up tape delay.  Tough luck to SNC, as it sounds like they were one of the closest teams not to make it.  If "conference reputation" is the key driver for getting two teams in, hopefully Monmouth can make some noise against quality teams/conferences.  As the MWC competitors tend to unite during the playoffs, you are all hereby given honorary SCOT status....welcome to the clan.   

A lot of great first round games in the region.  As for our primary game of interest, St. Thomas seems to have some MC qualities - namely, they can score a ton of points and their defense is stout.  This is exactly the type of opponent MC (and the MWC) needs to take the next step.  IF, IF, IF the Scots can get a rematch with St. Johns in Round II, perhaps they can improve greatly on the 2005 game.  But first things first....

[gbpuckfan]

Didn't see the selection show and am reacting on a form of post-up tape delay.  Tough luck to SNC, as it sounds like they were one of the closest teams not to make it.  If "conference reputation" is the key driver for getting two teams in, hopefully Monmouth can make some noise against quality teams/conferences.  As the MWC competitors tend to unite during the playoffs, you are all hereby given honorary SCOT status....welcome to the clan.   

Accepted. Go Scots!

[BoBo]

Didn't see the selection show and am reacting on a form of post-up tape delay.  Tough luck to SNC, as it sounds like they were one of the closest teams not to make it.  If "conference reputation" is the key driver for getting two teams in, hopefully Monmouth can make some noise against quality teams/conferences.  As the MWC competitors tend to unite during the playoffs, you are all hereby given honorary SCOT status....welcome to the clan.   

A lot of great first round games in the region.  As for our primary game of interest, St. Thomas seems to have some MC qualities - namely, they can score a ton of points and their defense is stout.  This is exactly the type of opponent MC (and the MWC) needs to take the next step.  IF, IF, IF the Scots can get a rematch with St. Johns in Round II, perhaps they can improve greatly on the 2005 game.  But first things first....

You can watch it from the link on the Daily Dose.  Look for the freeze frame of Pat Coleman. 

[Scots4]

SNCOLDAD- I just personally think Monmouth would beat St.  Norbert 100 times out of 100. That is what I meant by outclassed. Just my opinion, I didnt mean to come off as disrespectful in my initial post.

[Pat Coleman]

I think geography had something to do with W+J getting in.  They were probably more willing to put them in and bump out a weaker East team, rather than put in St. Norbert in the North or West and bump out a better team from either of those regions. 

It doesn't work that way. You can have as many West teams in the bracket as you want.

[scots66]

Welcome aboard the MWC express. SNC should be here with us but the powers at hand decided different. We are as deserving as any other conference to have 2 teams in. Let's prove them wrong SCOTS. Continue the fight all the way to Salem. EMAS!!!! 

[Scots4]

Welcome aboard the MWC express. SNC should be here with us but the powers at hand decided different. We are as deserving as any other conference to have 2 teams in. Let's prove them wrong SCOTS. Continue the fight all the way to Salem. EMAS!!!! 

Based on what?

[scots66]

Nothing. SOS? I don't root for SNC by any means but it would be nice for the conference to get some respect nationally. 2 teams in the playoffs would be a nice start.

[The Roop]

Stop hating on the MWC Scots4.  St. Norbert should be in and everybody knows it. If you don't believe me then ask Pat or Keith. I've listened to all the podcasts now and it sounds like W&J got in based on imaginary criteria.

[scottie]

You can watch it from the link on the Daily Dose.  Look for the freeze frame of Pat Coleman. 

Which freeze frame are you talking about, Bobo?  The still photo of Pat on the YouTube link, or the last 10 seconds of the airing when Pat just stared into the camera in complete silence?      But seriously...Good job, Pat.  Your encyclopedic (produced/scripted?) insight was a nice balance to the host who was getting WAY too excited announcing pairings for schools he never heard of.   

[scottie]

In preparation for the "our-conference-is-more-competitive-than-your-conference" posturing, I've included the 2009 editions below.  My guess is that if the MIAC had one more team, to equal the MWC, the bell curve would be supported at the lower end of the league. 

MIAC               
St. John's    8-0, 10-0     
St. Thomas  7-1, 9-1         
Bethel  6-2, 7-3         
Con-Moor  3-5, 5-5         
St. Olaf  3-5, 5-5         
Augsburg  3-5, 4-6         
Gustavas Ad  3-5, 4-6         
Hamline  2-6, 4-6         
Carleton  1-7, 3-7           

MWC
Monmouth  9-0, 10-0
St. Norbert  8-1, 9-1   
Ripon  7-2, 7-3   
Beloit  5-4, 6-4   
Carroll  5-4, 5-5
Illinois Col.  5-4, 5-5
Grinnell  2-7, 2-8
Lake Forest  2-7, 2-8
Lawrence  1-8, 2-8   
Knox  1-8, 1-9

[repete]

Overall records? Non-conference marks might be a little more telling. MIAC is 15-3 vs. MWC's 3-7.

But then again MIAC teams generally play tough NC opponents.