FB: Midwest Conference

[blu thru n thru]

So before next years IC-MC game you will be able to savor the spoils of your hollow victory, all while being reminded of the anniversary of UCLA trouncing of your Horns.

Let me say, Mocol, you REALLY don't want to go there.  This is a battle few can win.  One of the only difficulties of being a Horns fan is that when we stub our toe (and it does happen about every 5 years), we have to hear from all the envious ankle-biting haters.  Unless you want both barrels square in the face, it's time to go back to the support of MC.  I had all I wanted of this nonsense on Saturday. And those who brought it, limped back... Just remember, there's no way to make envy, pretty...  With 2 national championship appearances (and one championship), the winningest record of the new millenium, and hell, our own conference and TV network for that matter, I (as a Horns fan) have a bigger gun.  You have a pocket knife...  Good luck to your Scots the rest of the way...

[Redmen09]

I saw some pictures of the Ripon vs. Carroll game from saturday and it looked like it was an awesome game.  Definetley the game of the year so far.  Its encouraging though that Ripon could still win with 7 turnovers, hopefully they dont grease the ball again before next weeks game.  Not looking past Knox  , but I would agree that MC vs Ripon will be a good contest.  Thats why I'm looking forward to this weekends game of SNC vs. MC.  It will be a huge test for both teams to see where they are at after starting 0-1 in conference.  For sure the game of the week SNC vs. Monmouth

[Moncolfan]

Blu you ain't got crap with UT- not even on the lowly Big Ten. The much maligned Ohio State Buckeyes gave Texas every they wanted in a three game series. As a matter of fact you guys are fortunate that you didn't lose all three. Lets see a dropped pass in the end zone by a wide open TE in game one leads to a Texas sqeaking by (That was their NC season), OSU goes down to Austin the next year and kicks the crap out of #2 UT and two years ago a questionable spot on 4th down keeps a UT drive going and they get a late TD to once again sneak by in the Fiesta Bowl  I would hardly call that dominance! The Big 12 or whatever they are is one conference that shouldn't be bashing on any others. UT has had some excellent teams but their best ain't any better than the Big Tens

[Moncolfan]

Oh ya and since I went there and really like it there Blu, your claim about Texas having the best record of the millenium is now fiction thanks to Saturday's trouncing.  UT has a great program but it certainly isn't head and shoulders above the rest like you claim. Jeez I never heard of your own conference and TV network Maybe the Big 10 should look into that.    After tangling with you on this board Blu I will concede everything is bigger in Texas including your mouth and the other orifice you do most of your braggin from . Right now I'll take my pocket knife over your double barreled sawed off shot gun because right now you are shooting blanks........ Good luck to IC for the rest of the year and good luck to UT in the Papa John's bowl.

[Redmen09]

Wooooooo!  I think we can get enough going here to start a new thread about D-1 conferences 

[MWCfan787]

moncol - All I was implying is that the program has taken a step down this year from the lofty standards and goals they set in 2008 and 2009.  I was part of the program for 3 years I know that coaching staff won't let this program fail.  I was just a little upset with those first 2 games comparatively speaking, as any MC fan would be.

If they pulled off a conf. championship in this season of turmoil (turmoil by their standards) it would be huge going forward and could help raise the level of play in future years to that of the d3 powerhouses.  That should be the ultimate goal for years to come.

If they won conference this year though they would almost definitely lose big in the first round of the playoffs.  Where as in 2008 they won first round (albeit an easy game) and 2009 they were considered to have a chance (were picked to win by a few "experts" on d3football.com)

[SNCOLDAD]

I still say that they need to invent a "Sarcasm" font. But you 2 are doing a pretty good job without it. 

[blu thru n thru]

Moncol, seriously, decaf...   And to the rest of y'all, sorry wrong board for that.   I think we'll just let this one end here.

[bleedpurple]

moncol - All I was implying is that the program has taken a step down this year from the lofty standards and goals they set in 2008 and 2009.  I was part of the program for 3 years I know that coaching staff won't let this program fail.  I was just a little upset with those first 2 games comparatively speaking, as any MC fan would be.

If they pulled off a conf. championship in this season of turmoil (turmoil by their standards) it would be huge going forward and could help raise the level of play in future years to that of the d3 powerhouses.  That should be the ultimate goal for years to come.

If they won conference this year though they would almost definitely lose big in the first round of the playoffs.  Where as in 2008 they won first round (albeit an easy game) and 2009 they were considered to have a chance (were picked to win by a few "experts" on d3football.com)

I agree MC should have the "ultimate goal for years to come" of raising their level of play to the D3 powerhouses.  I'm trying to follow your logic as to how they get there. How does winning the MWC this year, then getting trounced in the first round, help them get them to the elite level?

[MWCfan787]

bleed purple - just trying to be a realistic fan, and with the team they have (unbelievably inexperienced, injury-ridden) I think that's their ceiling this year.  The playoff experience, even if its one game, is better than none at all.  They have to know what they really need to improve and how much they need to improve on it.  If you don't face a team that exposes that to you (like they didn't the the 2008-9 reg. seasons) than you can't get better.

I think something that would really benefit them would be if the MWC dropped 2 teams, but still kept its AQ bid.  Then they could see more tough programs every year and get a better feel for what their program measures up to on the national stage.  Can only wish though.

...and sadly if that did happen the two schools that would make the most sense geographically would be Grinnell (only Iowa school) and IC (WE'D LOSE BTNT! )

[MWCfan787]

Oh, and before Ripon fans go crazy about that last post.........they did give a scare in that game in 08, sorry almost forgot about that.

[blu thru n thru]

...and sadly if that did happen the two schools that would make the most sense geographically would be Grinnell (only Iowa school) and IC (WE'D LOSE BTNT! )

No worries, Fan.  I ain't going anywhere. I'm kinda invested now (in the MWC). It's mature and insightful posts like yours, that have brought that about.  I am a bit curious why IC in your scenario?  Our recent history shows us to be at the very least, middle of the pack.  Is it geographic?  No biggie.  Just interested.

I don't think you should feel too obiligated to defend your initial statement regarding how an MWC championship in a season of setbacks would reflect the character of the team.  For most, the positive spin you intended was a no-brainer.  If you'd have said that about my school, you'd have gotten a +K... and a note of thanks.  In fact, I'm gonna do just that.  But then again, I gave Moncol one just for the energy and enthusiasm he's brought in his two replies to me. Y'gotta love the effort.

[Moncolfan]

Hey Blu its those words in bold that get me going. I just love the Big Ten and football in the midwest.  That's where I am from and that's who I root for. Not saying we are any better but certainly not as bad as people from the south think. MWC fan all I was trying to say is the team has already shown some character regardless if they win conference. As far as competing at the national level I still insist Monmouth was a top 10 team last year and I think the team next year can be a top 15 team  from what I have seen this year.  Just my opinion however.  I just think there is a big drop off between the top few teams and rest. I will say however, look for St. Thomas to give Whitewater one heck of a game when they meet in the playoffs this year.

[Redhawk Sighting]

Can we get back on track here?  I am not a big fan of "IF's" and 'WHENS".  And all this talk about droping two teams from the MWC, WHAT??  They are actually talking about adding teams and making two divisions.  It's important for some people on here to not post unless it is directly related to their teams.  "I say GOOD DAY"!


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[blu thru n thru]

Moncol- It's all good.