FB: Midwest Conference

[fulbakdad]

Here's what the possiblities are.

If SNC beats Lake Forest, they can only move onto the playoffs if IC loses (There were no playoff penalties for the violations).
If the above happens and IC wins, IC moves on. (Because the three-way tiebreaker is most quarters led during the year).
If either of the above happens, LFC-SNC-IC are three-way MWC champions.

If LFC wins, they are MWC Champions and move on to the playoffs.

[fulbakdad]

Saw this on another board for a tie breaker.  I like it better than quarters lead for the 3-way....




1. Head-to-Head result(s) between tied teams.

2. Result(s) versus individual opponents examined in descending order, individually, until tie is broken. The tied teams must have a common opponent in order for the result to be considered; if not a common opponent, move to the next team in the standings. The first team to have beaten a higher-ranked team that is a common opponent wins the tiebreaker. If the tie is not broken in the descending order review, start from the bottom of the standings and examine opponents in ascending order. The first team to have lost to a lower-ranked team loses the tiebreaker (no common opponent provision in ascending review).

3. The team with the fewest losses in conference away games.

4. The team with the higher preseason power ranking used to determine conference schedule. This provision would not apply if a tiebreaker had been used to separate the teams in final power ranking.

5. The team with the longest active winning streak in conference play at the end of the season.

6. The team that has not participated in the NCAA playoffs for the longest period of years.

7. Coin Toss.

When three or more teams are tied, the same procedure shall be followed until one team is eliminated. The process shall then be repeated until one team emerges.

[wnc52]

I'm a couple pages late to the party--nice to see this thread actually blowing up a bit!--but my take on a couple of things.  I don't think eliminating non-con games is a good idea.  Though some teams don't schedule heavy weights for these, they're good to give at least some idea of how our teams rank against other conferences.  Yes, it's sort of created a problem for this year and I haven't looked at the 8-game schedule yet but for the long haul, I don't think eliminating non-con games is good.

IC is postseason eligible.  Honestly, other than effecting off campus recruiting, the probation won't really effect them much at all.  Since the rule they broke is no longer a rule, I think the NCAA felt they had to do something, but didn't want to go overboard either. 

Maybe I'm misreading things here, but there seems to be a sentiment that it's too bad St. Norbert didn't get to play IC; based on how the last couple years have gone, maybe it's too bad from the Blueboys perspective they didn't get to play St. Norbert

[fulbakdad]

Be careful what you say WNC.  If IC had played SNC this year and beat them, IC would be out of the playoffs and only hoping SNC would beat LFC.  Then IC and LFC would be Co-Champs, but LFC would go to the NCAA's due to h2h......

[fulbakdad]

The unbalanced schedule just sucks!  If they stick with it, every year there will be complaints (valid if you ask me) about the final standings!

Find another team and have a east/west or north/south groups with championship game at the end.  I hate would have, could have endings in sports.

[Redhawk Sighting]

The unbalanced schedule just sucks!  If they stick with it, every year there will be complaints (valid if you ask me) about the final standings!

Find another team and have a east/west or north/south groups with championship game at the end.  I hate would have, could have endings in sports.

For someone who hates "would have, could have" you are sure talking a lot about what "could be".  Let's wait and see what happens on saturday AND THEN start having the conversations.  I have a feeling that next year there will not be such a concern with this.  Just saying, I guess we'll just have to wait and see........................................ 

[TitanPride]

Now that it's Wednesday, might as well start throwing out some predictions. 

I think Lake Forest has a great shot of going up to DePere and beating the Knights.  Obviously, I'd love to see it go the other way.  Both teams have what appear to be very strong defenses.  However, I favor the Foresters O from what I've seen in person, in box scores, etc.  I'm just not sure St. Norbert has the offensive weapons to put many points up.  I think it will be a low scoring, close game.  St. Norbert will have to turn Lake Forest over and protect the ball themselves to win.  Lake Forest odds of winning the game: 80%

The Illinois College vs. Carroll game sets up as a barnburner.  Carroll has a solid defense of their own and as was mentioned earlier in this thread, they have lost their two games by a combined 10 points (7 of those coming in OT vs. St. Norbert).  They are only a razor thin margin away from being in the title picture themselves.  IC's defense has improved this season, but they are going to be challenged by Carroll's RB, Lamont Williams, who is averaging close to 200 yards on the ground over the last 4 games.  A ball control offense combined with a stingy defense will pose a big challenge for the Blueboys.  You know the Blueboys will be ready to go and I like them to win, but I don't think it will be easy.  Illinois College odds of winning the game:  60%

So based on that, here are the chances I give each team of winning the Pool A bid:

Lake Forest:  80%
Illinois College:  12%
St. Norbert:  8%
Monmouth:  0%  sorry, that was mean 

[fulbakdad]

Redhawk, let me clarify.  I hate would have could have in the past tense. 

[gbpuckfan]

So based on that, here are the chances I give each team of winning the Pool A bid:

Lake Forest:  80%
Illinois College:  12%
St. Norbert:  8%
Monmouth:  0%  sorry, that was mean 

So what does make Beloit's chances?

Sorry, that was really mean... 

[fulbakdad]

Packing for our flight tomorrow.  Looking forward to the game on Saturday.  We've got a parents bus chartered and I heard there's a bus for students going too.  Should be a good one, but I saw a chance of rain for the weather?

Lake Forest is surprisingly healthy at this point of the season.  They had a couple guys nicked up around games 3 and 4 but from what I've heard just about everyones back.  This is unlike last year when there was a platoon of injured players on the sidelines for the last game.

I predict a lot of tackles from the 2 inside linebackers Saturday (Preston and Cruz).  But I think the D-Line and the outside backers to be the pressure guys. 

On Offense they have really become 2 dimensional.  3 solid backs are getting things done and Scaffidi is doing it on the ground and throwing it.  The O line is doing awesome.

Hoping it all comes together!

Lake Forest 31-SNC 13

[gbpuckfan]

Forecast for De Pere:
high of 56
60% chance of rain

[HIT-EM-IN-THE-MOUTH]

Forecast for De Pere:
high of 56
60% chance of rain

Weather doesn't matter these boys were hoping for snow.

Two scenarios, same outcome

1) SNC scores on the opening posession and holds LFC scoreless for the first quarter then LFC's D comes to life and SNC doesn't see the endzone the rest of the day, Offense scores 4
LFC wins 28-7

2) LFC comes out and lays the hammer down, blows SNC out of the stadium 42-0.

I'm going OPTION 2
ROLL BABY ROLL!!!!

[Maverick]

Week 11

Carroll at Illinois C. - IC
Grinnell at Cornell - CC
Knox at Monmouth - MC
Lake Forest at St. Norbert - LFC
Ripon at Lawrence - RC

Good luck Fighting Scots!  Knuck Fox!

[fulbakdad]

Hit in the mouth, are you well versed in ICS?

[HIT-EM-IN-THE-MOUTH]

Hit in the mouth, are you well versed in ICS?

Why do you ask?