FB: Midwest Conference

wartknight · October 16, 2013, 02:17:24 PM

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 16, 2013, 01:04:22 PM
So this may have been mentioned a ways back, but I'm not a native MWC fan so forgive my asking. What happens if St. Norbert and Illinois College both finish undefeated in conference play without playing one another? How does the tie get resolved to decide the Pool A bid?

Best of 3 in Rock, Paper, Scissors

The Roop · October 16, 2013, 02:34:40 PM

It would go to most quarters in the lead.

wally_wabash · October 16, 2013, 04:11:23 PM

Quote from: The Roop on October 16, 2013, 02:34:40 PM
It would go to most quarters in the lead.

For the season or restricted to MWC play only?

Probably not that it matters...I've got IC with a 6-quarter lead here. 10 quarters (which is really insurmountable) if we count the non-conference games.

gbpuckfan · October 16, 2013, 06:45:41 PM

That's the problem with second half comebacks - good for winning games, not this tiebreaker.

The Roop · October 17, 2013, 12:25:24 AM

As I understand it it's conference play only. That being said, there isn't a 1st place tie at the end of the season yet.

scottie · October 17, 2013, 10:20:12 AM

As usual, I contend that the fate of the MWC crown will be dependant on the Good Guys. In other words, Advantage Green Knights.

The Roop · October 17, 2013, 10:46:33 AM

scottie and his theories. Much like scientific models none are accurate but some are more helpful than others.

gbpuckfan · October 17, 2013, 08:22:22 PM

IC's remaining schedule:
at Beloit (1-4)
vs. Knox (1-4)
vs. Monmouth (2-2)
at Cornell (3-1)
at Carroll (2-3)

SNC's remaining schedule:
at Lawrence (0-5)
vs. Beloit (1-4)
vs. Grinnell (1-3)
at Lake Forest (4-1)

Pretty obvious that the Blueboys are now big LFC fans, while SNC will be cheering for the Rams & Scots. SNC has a small advantage insofar as it has one fewer chance to stumble, with its bye week still to come. If IC already has the quarters led (I believe you; I just haven't done the math myself), I can't see SNC passing them, especially with one less game to play.

TitanPride · October 17, 2013, 10:51:08 PM

Quote from: gbpuckfan on October 17, 2013, 08:22:22 PM
IC's remaining schedule:
at Beloit (1-4)
vs. Knox (1-4)
vs. Monmouth (2-2)
at Cornell (3-1)
at Carroll (2-3)

SNC's remaining schedule:
at Lawrence (0-5)
vs. Beloit (1-4)
vs. Grinnell (1-3)
at Lake Forest (4-1)

Pretty obvious that the Blueboys are now big LFC fans, while SNC will be cheering for the Rams & Scots. SNC has a small advantage insofar as it has one fewer chance to stumble, with its bye week still to come. If IC already has the quarters led (I believe you; I just haven't done the math myself), I can't see SNC passing them, especially with one less game to play.

Don't forget Carroll. Last year, they took IC to the woodshed in a 49-14 victory with Lamont Williams running wild for 304 yards and 6 TDs.

The Roop · October 18, 2013, 08:56:30 AM

SNCs only bump in the road might be to close out the season @Lake Forest. IC on the other hand could be looking at as many as 3. Cornell is in similar shape with only one gimme. Don't think we'll need to worry about tie breakers now that I've looked at schedules. Lake Forest has to run the table and could still wind up the bridesmaid again if IC doesn't lose twice.

At least when we get Macalester it will be a little easier to figure out with divisional play.

fulbakdad · October 18, 2013, 12:25:48 PM

I don't see Carroll taking IC to the woodshed this year.....

gbpuckfan · October 18, 2013, 12:35:50 PM

Quote from: fulbakdad on October 18, 2013, 12:25:48 PM
I don't see Carroll taking IC to the woodshed this year.....

I only watched their game against SNC, but the Pios certainly didn't seem to have the offense to keep up with what IC is scoring. SNC 'only' won because it forced turnovers on the last three possessions, otherwise that game was a low scoring tossup.

TitanPride · October 18, 2013, 12:47:58 PM

Quote from: gbpuckfan on October 18, 2013, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 18, 2013, 12:25:48 PM
I don't see Carroll taking IC to the woodshed this year.....
I only watched their game against SNC, but the Pios certainly didn't seem to have the offense to keep up with what IC is scoring. SNC 'only' won because it forced turnovers on the last three possessions, otherwise that game was a low scoring tossup.

Don't have the stats in front of me but I think Carroll had one of their most impressive offensive outputs of the season last year against IC. Their physical style dominated. They held the IC offense to 14 points and ran for over 300 yards. And the game this year is up in Wisconsin in November. Not sure when is the last time IC won up there.

If, if, IC can make it to the last week undefeated, Carroll will be no gimme. That's all I'm saying.

The Roop · October 18, 2013, 01:23:22 PM

First one to 60 probably wins that game. Neither team is one that backs off the gas when they have an advantage.

Hopefully I don't offended my hosts tomorrow but in the DTKAS Good Guys 24 LFC 17

fulbakdad · October 18, 2013, 01:36:03 PM

Hosts offended.

The Carroll offense was totally non effective when I watched them at Lake Forest. Most of their yards were longer distance desperation throws from the qb. Williams was held to 63 yards (one run of 43 on a cutback break free run was 2/3rds of that). Didn't see them ever get out of second gear all day.

IC is big, strong and fast. Bates is the best QB in the league IMHO. Just not gonna happen.