FB: Midwest Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

Shouldn't you Minnesota guys be outside shoveling or something???   

Why bother - it'll all melt in, oh, 8 months or so!

[DuffMan]

We're just playing with you, 2-Arm.  We all know that Mac will choke this weekend and be left out of the playoffs. 

[TwoArmedScot]

Maybe they will. 

But then again, maybe they won't.   

Even if they do = 8-2 = Most successful season EVER, in 121 YEARS OF FOOTBALL at Macalester.  Not a bad step in the right direction.

Also, I'm sure the coaches and players are just loving the lack of respect being shown by D3.com for what they've accomplished this year.  Now I see they have IC predicted as the AQ.  Mac has been thriving as the underdog for the last two months.  Keep giving them more fuel for the fire D3.com.

[scottie]

Just a quick proposal for next season:  If you don't post for the first eight weeks, you're not allowed on the board for the rest of the season.  Or, we can start up a separate Bandwagon Fan Group, or something....   

[DuffMan]

Mac has been thriving as the underdog for the last two months.

Mac's been an underdog for 121 years, but "thriving" isn't a word I'd use to describe them. 

Respect on the national scene is earned.  The track record of the MWC's AQ has done little to earn respect for the conference.

I really do hope Mac wins and gets the AQ!!!  That'd be good for Mac football in more ways than one.

[DuffMan]

Just a quick proposal for next season:  If you don't post for the first eight weeks, you're not allowed on the board for the rest of the season.

Where would the fun be in that? 

[TwoArmedScot]

Mac has been thriving as the underdog for the last two months.

Mac's been an underdog for 121 years, but "thriving" isn't a word I'd use to describe them. 

Respect on the national scene is earned.  The track record of the MWC's AQ has done little to earn respect for the conference.

I really do hope Mac wins and gets the AQ!!!  That'd be good for Mac football in more way than one.

You did go to St. John's didn't you?: "in more way than one."   

Hopefully you can take some good old ribbing once in a while and try not to get all Butt Hurt like scottie.   

[DuffMan]

You did go to St. John's didn't you?: "in more way than one."   

Touché. 

[TwoArmedScot]

Mac has been thriving as the underdog for the last two months.

Mac's been an underdog for 121 years, but "thriving" isn't a word I'd use to describe them. 

Respect on the national scene is earned.  The track record of the MWC's AQ has done little to earn respect for the conference.

I really do hope Mac wins and gets the AQ!!!  That'd be good for Mac football in more way than one.

Maybe the MWC hasn't done so well because it always gets paired up against a conference that is a total mismatch.  And trust me, I get it.  That's how it works.

But let's just think about something for a little bit.  It's funny how the power conferences seem to be the ones that...through recent changes in conference rules and policies...seem to aligning themselves more like Scholarship schools.  If they want to operate like scholarship schools why don't they join DIV II?  What happened to the true meaning of Division III?  Last time I checked it was all about the "STUDENT-athlete" experience with "STUDENT" being the first and most important part of that term.  Seems to me that it's shifting more toward the ATHLETE who just also happens to be a student on the side.

I'm sure most of you, just like myself, chose to play division 3 because our education was more important to us. 

Mean while D3.com has adds on it's site advertising Division 3 Sports Scholarships: http://www.d3football.com/teams/Grinnell/2014/index

I thought athletic scholarships were not allowed in division 3?

[scottie]

You did go to St. John's didn't you?: "in more way than one."   

Hopefully you can take some good old ribbing once in a while and try not to get all Butt Hurt like scottie.   

It's "But Hirt" you maroon!   

[Pat Coleman]

Maybe they will. 

But then again, maybe they won't.   

Even if they do = 8-2 = Most successful season EVER, in 121 YEARS OF FOOTBALL at Macalester.  Not a bad step in the right direction.

Also, I'm sure the coaches and players are just loving the lack of respect being shown by D3.com for what they've accomplished this year.  Now I see they have IC predicted as the AQ.  Mac has been thriving as the underdog for the last two months.  Keep giving them more fuel for the fire D3.com.

If Macalester needs a playoff projection to fire them up for the biggest football game in the history of the school then you have not been doing your job very well.

[hazzben]

Maybe the MWC hasn't done so well because it always gets paired up against a conference that is a total mismatch.  And trust me, I get it.  That's how it works.

umm, if you'r not doing well because you're 'mismatched against better competition', that's not helping to convince me your teams aren't getting enough respect.

But let's just think about something for a little bit.  It's funny how the power conferences seem to be the ones that...through recent changes in conference rules and policies...seem to aligning themselves more like Scholarship schools. If they want to operate like scholarship schools why don't they join DIV II?  What happened to the true meaning of Division III?  Last time I checked it was all about the "STUDENT-athlete" experience with "STUDENT" being the first and most important part of that term.  Seems to me that it's shifting more toward the ATHLETE who just also happens to be a student on the side.

I'm sure most of you, just like myself, chose to play division 3 because our education was more important to us. 

Care to elaborate on how the 'Power Conferences' are changing rules and policies...or are aligning themselves more like scholarship schools? I don't think any d3 school has lost sight of the fact that their athletes are students first, and the vast majority will be finding careers outside of sports. 

Aside from, you know, letting a traditional member of their conference jump ship in one sport because they can't compete, but continue to play in all the rest. If the MIAC were acting like a scholarship division, we'd have kicked MAC's butt to the curb in all the sports. Which, now that I mention it, I think we actually should have done!  I also think Carleton, Hamline and other MIAC schools shouldn't schedule you guys in football. Let MAC find other competition. Although it is nice to see that by scheduling them, you're reminded of where you'd really stack up if you hadn't jumped ship (this year, I'm guessing you'd be around 1-7  ).

The other benefit of MAC high tailing it out of the MIAC in football is that it has greatly raised my level of respect Carleton and Hamline. They stayed to compete. I tip my cap to them in a big way.

And just so you have some perspective. Bethel was probably worse than MAC in the 80's. They won something like a half dozen games from 80-88. When Johnson first arrived, he got coach of the year in 89, for going 3-6-1! Too bad MAC won't ever have the chance to experience that same type of resurgence.

NB: this isn't meant to be an indictment of the MWC. I get that as a conference, you're adding a school that you had a chance to add. And as this season has shown, it was a good addition and brought quality to the conference.

[Pat Coleman]

Mean while D3.com has adds on it's site advertising Division 3 Sports Scholarships: http://www.d3football.com/teams/Grinnell/2014/index

I thought athletic scholarships were not allowed in division 3?

We're not rich enough to turn down Google ads. Maybe you guys share some of that massive endowment with us and we take the ads off.

By the way, if you're going to criticize someone's typo then you ought to watch your autocorrect a little more closely.

[DuffMan]

By the way, if you're going to criticize someone's typo then you ought to watch your autocorrect a little more closely.

Dang!  PC is throwing down today!

[DuffMan]

Maybe the MWC hasn't done so well because it always gets paired up against a conference that is a total mismatch. 

Um, so you want an easy playoff game?  The whole point of playoffs is that you're supposedly playing the best in the nation, but I guess Mac just wants to be coddled.