FB: Midwest Conference

[scottie]

Scottie, I do agree with you

Some, more than others and unfortunately Monmouth is one of those 'others'.

some of the facilities and resources available to MWC schools are second to none, especially at Monmouth

Now, the positive part I think if any team in the MWC could concievably catch up to the WIAC teams it is Monmouth.

yes, Scottie I do

I like this guy.  Please pay us a visit over here anytime!   

[Warhawk 96]

Warhawk96: Does your computer screen have a mirror-like reflection, or do you just keep mirrors around your screen?

You don't need a mirror unless you're looking at face value Scottie. The truth is that it runs deeper than spring ball, admissions standards, redshirting, multiple sports, or any other lame excuse and you know it. You just can't or won't see past the facade. What's the matter? Ran out of excuses so now we start with the insults?

[SNCOLDAD]

WOw scottie! Man is proud of his accomplishments and good for him. Again, it is difficult to have things taken the way they are intended over a message board.

Everyone take a deep breath and remember the season. 

[scottie]

I hope he'll share how he made his first million.  As a 2006 graduate (presumably), I'm sure he's a real dynamo.   

[Warhawk 96]

I hope he'll share how he made his first million.  As a 2006 graduate (presumably), I'm sure he's a real dynamo.   

If you knew me you wouldn't be so sarcastic but since you don't know me i'll let your condescending assumptions of me slide. All I said is what you think is impossible is possible, just like your first million.....It's funny to me because I thought we were talking about football and what it takes to build a good program. Nevermind, I'm done speaking on the subject. Go back to complaining and striving for a new division that won't materialize. We'll still be winning championships.

[SNCOLDAD]

I am going to jump in here one more time. (Hopefully only one more) 

Scottie, I have to agree on this one. I feel you crossed the line on sarcasm. And believe me I am one that will use it a lot. Just ask my wife.    Although with your reply I really wonder if you meant it as sarcasm. 

Warhawk 96, I appreciate your comments. At first I also thought they were a little on the bragging side. Then I realized that it was more pride towards a big accomplishment. I started thinking about how my son has changed certain attitudes towards things that use to not matter much. The overheard conversations concerning what he had to do for classes and things of that nature. Then in the next sentence it was on to the daily workout to make sure he stayed on top of that side of his life. A confidence that has grown in a lot of different ways.

Flash, I have to be honest but I had no idea that the MWC was viewed that way. I can see why with the tuition costs. That caught me off guard big time. But when your kid decides where they would like to go you want to try to make it possible. Hopefully this will continue to be possible.

96, if you can, I hope you continue posting around this board. I appreciate your thoughts and experiences. I also wonder where you have located yourself now geographically. Curiosity more than anything.

OK. I am done. Except for one more thing. Remember the Reason for the Season.

Merry Christmas Everyone.   

[ahig]

Does anyone else read the posts in the order of most recent first and try and piece the story together that way?  I find it much more interesting.

Go BSU!!!

[oldnuthin]

I was wondering if any one here could answer a few questions for me. I am helping my nephew look for a college and was wondering what is the difference between The MWC and the CCIW. I have looked at some of the websites like Monmouth and IC who both seem to have nice new facilities. Any information on schools and level of play would be greatly appreciated

[UWWFan]

I was wondering if any one here could answer a few questions for me. I am helping my nephew look for a college and was wondering what is the difference between The MWC and the CCIW. I have looked at some of the websites like Monmouth and IC who both seem to have nice new facilities. Any information on schools and level of play would be greatly appreciated

Oldnuthin...Great questions on a very important decision. Like I said a couple pages ago, I have some experience with the MWC. However, limited with the CCIW. Choosing a school depends on what your nephew wants. As far as facilities, those are pretty straight forward. Playing time? or System. To answer your question, I believe that the CCIW is going to have the higher level of play. I know teams like North Central, Carthage and Wheaton have won a few games in the playoffs in the past couple of years. In the MWC, as far as top teams you're gonna be looking at Monmouth, Ripon, Carrol and St. Norbert with a couple other teams that seem to be on the rise (Beloit comes to mind). Unforunately they haven't won many playoff games (Monmouth won the first for the conference this year in a number of years). I believe the conference has gotten better as far as being able to compete with confernces like the Iowa conference and the CCIW. Hopefully this helps. If you have anymore questions I'll be happy to do my best to answer.

[scottie]

Scottie's last thoughts for 2008:

WH96: I think if "you knew me," you'd appreciate my sarcasm and not take things too personally.  Let's bury the hatchet (see my last point).

Jflash: I think if you knew me, the spoiled brat concept would be blown as well.  Just loyal to the alma mater what it represents, including many first generation college students.

SNCOLDAD:  To my second father  , I hear the disappointment in your last post and will try to do better (see my last point).

Oldnuthin:  While this is a sports site, I would just suggest that you consider the academic fit just as thoroughly as the athletic opportunities. 

To the Scots out there:  Old Monmouth, hail to thee.

Last point:  So, yesterday I had some work-related travel which involved about 400 miles of driving roundtrip.  The roads were extremely slick; my first leg took me 4 hours during the day and the trip back took 5 hours in the middle of the night.   Suffice it to say that the company car was not very equipped to handle the roads.  On the way down, I passed several devastating crashes including at least one fatality.  On the way home, many more cars/trucks/semis lay in the ditch in various contorted directions.  As I hit the occasional, yet frequent, slick spots and my kung fu grip on the wheel grew increasingly tighter while the car decided if it wanted to comply, I began to think about the things that are important to me.

Since these conditions are not unusual for most of us in the midwest, I wish you all safe travels and encourage you to calculate your chances/risks wisely.  I did not do that.  Merry Christmas to all and a happy 2009!

[SNCOLDAD]

scottie, first of all I am glad you made it home alive and hopefully safe. It is those type of situations that make us more grateful and also make us think better the next time. I have read enough of your posts to realize that you were kidding around and having fun. I hope that 96 will give you the benefit of the doubt and read some of your other posts so that he can maybe see you meant no harm.

flash, not sure what I want to say, but I know that having the ability for my son to attend SNC is a blessing I do not take lightly. I would have to believe that other MWC schools also have scholarships that are NOT athletically related that can assist some families. I pray that my present job will allow for him to continue his studies and football at this fine institute.

I really did not know how good it truly is before he started there last year.

Oldnuthin, I went through that 2 years ago with my son. #1 Make sure he goes where he really can be involved. This is an absolute must. He has to be a part of the whole scene. Not just classes. Not just football practice. Make sure it is a school where he can set roots and has a reason to be there.

Merry Christmas all, and a Blessed Holiday Season.

[oldnuthin]

I was wondering if any one here could answer a few questions for me. I am helping my nephew look for a college and was wondering what is the difference between The MWC and the CCIW. I have looked at some of the websites like Monmouth and IC who both seem to have nice new facilities. Any information on schools and level of play would be greatly appreciated

Oldnuthin...Great questions on a very important decision. Like I said a couple pages ago, I have some experience with the MWC. However, limited with the CCIW. Choosing a school depends on what your nephew wants. As far as facilities, those are pretty straight forward. Playing time? or System. To answer your question, I believe that the CCIW is going to have the higher level of play. I know teams like North Central, Carthage and Wheaton have won a few games in the playoffs in the past couple of years. In the MWC, as far as top teams you're gonna be looking at Monmouth, Ripon, Carrol and St. Norbert with a couple other teams that seem to be on the rise (Beloit comes to mind). Unforunately they haven't won many playoff games (Monmouth won the first for the conference this year in a number of years). I believe the conference has gotten better as far as being able to compete with confernces like the Iowa conference and the CCIW. Hopefully this helps. If you have anymore questions I'll be happy to do my best to answer.

I guess i could have been more clear i my question; what are the differences  in the level of play on the field. i see where monmouth should have made it further but lost in the last minute to wartburg. I travel the midwest alot and saw many CCIW games this year ad the cream definetly made it to the top in the playoffs in my opinion. i also see that ripon, and SNC and Carroll seem like very strong teams but i dont get the feeling any of the other teams in this conference would be competitive against the CCIW other than North Park. I understand that the classroom is the number 1 thing for any incoming student, but shiny new facilities can be a big draw to  a young  man. I know he is talking with carroll and beloit, and a former CCIW assistant has started calling from IC. I guess after a long rambling  post i am looking for a feel just for the football at this point and what you think are good well coached programs.

[The Roop]

Beloit has a 12-1 student/teacher ratio. Although if somebody losses their job the financial aid department doesn't care to re-work financial aid packages. 

[oldnuthin]

Beloit has a 12-1 student/teacher ratio. Although if somebody losses their job the financial aid department doesn't care to re-work financial aid packages. 

Thank you ?!?

[SNCOLDAD]

I cannot speak for any other school except SNC. My son was contacted by IC, Knox, Carroll, Lakeland, NMU are the ones I can remember. We visited SNC and it was 16 below zero the night we arrived. Take a look at the group of coaches they have. Only 2 are on the payroll I believe. The dedication of this entire group is very impressive. It would be great if the new facilities were complete, but the games are still played and I think it gives a home field advantage. Curious what position your son plays also. Has he decided on a major yet? I would doubt it but you never know. New library and new dorm under construction. Stadium coming soon. The only down side is the school colors are Green and Gold. But I will wear those colors proudly.......... on Saturdays. NOT ON SUNDAYS!     (nice Monday night football game guys)   

Campus is great, but I am sure a lot of them are. And it is quite impressive when you are the only football team in Titletown USA that plays regularly on Saturdays.  8)

I fully expect that others will join in from other schools. Good luck and make sure YOU have the right expectations and you haven't set the bar too high. I can almost assure you that you will have your eyes opened the first day you take him to whatever school he decides to go to.