FB: Midwest Conference

[SNCOLDAD]

bballer, I cannot argue with you and what I saw on Saturday. The level of play was very good from Grinnell. I also saw a strong desire and fire in that team. I did see a couple of things that I did not appreciate about the head coach but to each his own. Just don't yell at your QB for throwing the ball with less than a minute to go in the half. Take responsibility yourself for calling the pass play in the first place.

I truly hope that the Grinnell team can move up in the ranks in their football program. As Grinnell approaches "No Tuition", Hawsey will have an unbelievable advantage over other schools in recruiting student athletes.

[The Roop]

Last time I calculated tuition vs. endowments was two years ago. At that time Grinnell could go tuition free for 40 years and still have money in the bank. Interesting what the NCAA would think if a tuition free Grinnell actually happened.

[SNCOLDAD]

I wonder how that would test some "Athletic Scholarship" rules in D3. They had to postpone when the markets taked is what I heard this weekend. But they sure did not put construction on hold. The facilities are going to be spectacular. And as always, the football field reminede me of the 9th fairway at Cog Hill. 

So now the question I have. Is Beloit that much better, or is Carroll that much worse? 

[The Roop]

Yes

[SNCOLDAD]

Thanks for clearing that up for me Roop. I knew I could count on you. 

[The Roop]

Ask an easy question, get an easy answer.

[hickory_cornhusker]

I wonder how that would test some "Athletic Scholarship" rules in D3. They had to postpone when the markets taked is what I heard this weekend. But they sure did not put construction on hold. The facilities are going to be spectacular. And as always, the football field reminede me of the 9th fairway at Cog Hill. 

So now the question I have. Is Beloit that much better, or is Carroll that much worse? 

There shouldn't be any problem with the NCAA "Athletic Scholarship" rules. If every student gets free tuition the rules are being followed. The student-athlete is being treated like every other student in the school. Hell of a recruiting advantage but the way I see it still within the rules.

[scots fan]

 AH ROOP, that magical moment in sports a Monmouth Beloit game that means something. the way i see it close game first half Monmouth pulls away in second half and wins a tough one 42 - 24

[SNCOLDAD]

You got it hickory. One heck of a recruiting advantage if you ask me. Come visit our campus. We have spectacular facilities and play in a great conference. And oh, by the way, we have no tuition!!!   Just bring proof of your 31 or 32 minimum college entrance test scores.   

[MWCfan787]

The problem with Monmouth or SNC in the polls, or more importantly in the playoff selection, is the weakness of the conference overall. It would be great to see 2 teams from the MWC get a tourney bid, but.... 

We need other schools to step up in football on a consistent basis. I also feel that having the opportunity to play only one non-conference game hurts us since we only have that one chance to show off our talent to others.

It is a tough situation for the conference to be in but until we see strong improvement in the MWC Football teams, we will probably only get one bid. That is what they play for ultimately.

I brought up last year that we should give Grinnell to the IIAC and then we could become the true CCIW as the current one only has one team in Wisconsin.

[MWCfan787]

AH ROOP, that magical moment in sports a Monmouth Beloit game that means something. the way i see it close game first half Monmouth pulls away in second half and wins a tough one 42 - 24

I know Beloit is improved, but I won't believe it til I see it........I'm going with more of a 45-10 score

[bballer1280]

bballer, I cannot argue with you and what I saw on Saturday. The level of play was very good from Grinnell. I also saw a strong desire and fire in that team. I did see a couple of things that I did not appreciate about the head coach but to each his own. Just don't yell at your QB for throwing the ball with less than a minute to go in the half. Take responsibility yourself for calling the pass play in the first place.

Coach Hawsey is very, very intense.  Not every player can handle that approach.  But, not every MWC coach that is seeking a conference championship has to come from the bottom to get to the top.  The road to that destination is littered with many obstacles.  Coach Hawsey is just trying to push those student/athletes past those obstacles very quickly.  I know that he compliments just as quickly as he disciplines.  The players know that Coach Hawsey "tells it like it is" and they respect that, even when the message has a real "bite" in it some times.

[Footballfan99]

Carroll had some holes coming into the season that many thought maybe filled by the underclassmen, especially on defense with losing POY Jeremey Winter and losing many other starters. Well for the past two games those holes still have not been filled. Offensively, they are not moving the ball very well and killing themselves with turnovers and penalties. At first glance in preseason I thought this team could be 7-4 or 6-4, but now with two losses to teams that handled pretty well last year, my finishing prediction may not be as optimistic as first thought. But heres to hoping Carroll rights the ship this weekend with the PIO BOWL against Grinnell.

[SNCOLDAD]

bballer, I understand what you are saying. I think just about all successful coaches in college ball are intense. This was one of those situations that: a. You had to witness, b. Bleacher seats should be further away.    Grinnell makes sure that the sideline team meetings are right in front of the visiting parents and fans. New this year. They may want to consider moving to the other end in front of their own fans.

Footballfan99, I appreciate the insight. There is no doubt that playing a team early in the season with a large graduation the previous year has distinct advantages. Having witnessed Grinnell this season, I caution you right now. They are very capable to catch you.  8)

[Purple Heys]

I wonder how that would test some "Athletic Scholarship" rules in D3. They had to postpone when the markets taked is what I heard this weekend. But they sure did not put construction on hold. The facilities are going to be spectacular. And as always, the football field reminede me of the 9th fairway at Cog Hill. 

So now the question I have. Is Beloit that much better, or is Carroll that much worse? 

There shouldn't be any problem with the NCAA "Athletic Scholarship" rules. If every student gets free tuition the rules are being followed. The student-athlete is being treated like every other student in the school. Hell of a recruiting advantage but the way I see it still within the rules.

As it stands now, is it fair to say that Grinnell has among the tougher academic admissions standards in the MWC?