FB: Midwest Conference

The Roop · October 27, 2009, 10:26:25 PM

If Whitewater goes in as a Pool A, as they should, I can't see them getting moved. The only way that changes is if the west coast teams get put in the north and that winner goes to Whitewater in the second round. Which WILL happen regardless of region.

Embrace the conspiracy

mc31 · October 27, 2009, 10:50:13 PM

What are the chances Monmouth and Central both get moved to the North? With Central getting the number 1 seed and Monmouth getting the 2nd?

The Roop · October 27, 2009, 10:54:16 PM

17%

Mr. Ypsi · October 27, 2009, 10:56:29 PM

Quote from: mc31 on October 27, 2009, 10:50:13 PM
What are the chances Monmouth and Central both get moved to the North? With Central getting the number 1 seed and Monmouth getting the 2nd?

Both to the North? 3%

Getting the top two seeds? -18%

The Roop · October 27, 2009, 11:06:14 PM

Chances of DIII getting the shaft from the NCAA again. 100%

Mr. Ypsi · October 27, 2009, 11:10:37 PM

Quote from: The Roop on October 27, 2009, 11:06:14 PM
Chances of DIII getting the shaft from the NCAA again. 100%

True, but if you are not from California or Texas, the 'shaft' claim is less persuasive.

DutchHawk · October 27, 2009, 11:13:15 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 27, 2009, 10:19:52 PM
Quote from: The Roop on October 27, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
According to the podcast there are 5 potential #1 seeds in the west, so one and possibly two teams may get moved. Whitewater won't get moved as they are the obvious #1. Neither will Linfield for geographic reasons. And as strange as it might sound, St. Johns is too far north to be in the north. So Central and Monmouth are the candidates to go out of region.

You seem to be almost the only one left who doesn't think UWW to the 'North' is a foregone conclusion!

For the last three years, the NCAA seems to have abandoned 'regions' per se and gone with four #1 seeds, then build brackets around them. Once Wheaton lost, the 'North' no longer had a clear #1 (and the 'East' never had one). Barring major upsets, I'd say the brackets are MUC ('East'), UWW ('North'), Wesley (South) and SJU/Linfield/Central a toss-up for the 'West'.

I'll predict that Monmouth will also end up in the 'North'. Making room for them will be Case Western helping bolster the overly weak 'East'.

Right on in my opinion. You have 4 possible 1 seeds from the "West", UWW, Central, SJU, and Linfield. UWW is the obvious move North - they have done it before, Central would be the other if they really wanted to due to their proximity but I dont see it happening.

Ralph Turner · October 27, 2009, 11:13:33 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 27, 2009, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: The Roop on October 27, 2009, 11:06:14 PM
Chances of DIII getting the shaft from the NCAA again. 100%

True, but if you are not from California or Texas, the 'shaft' claim is less persuasive.

+1! Thanks for the support!

The Roop · October 28, 2009, 12:00:50 AM

You underestimate the "dark side" of the NCAA Mr. Ypsi.

scottie · October 28, 2009, 12:33:41 PM

Quote from: Jester76 on October 27, 2009, 09:23:08 PM
Reading Clyde's Around the Midwest article for this week seems that Monmouth might get moved to the North region playoff bracket. He wrote, "If Monmouth finishes undefeated, it would be difficult to deny the Scots a home playoff game while a loss could very well put Monmouth on the road, possibly against a CCIW or Ohio Athletic Conference opponent.
That would be interesting to see how that would shake down. What does everyone think?

"The No. 10-ranked Fightin' Scots (8-0 overall, 7-0 in regular season) will face a Blue Boys team that won't be pushovers."

Still wondering where Clyde is doing his research regarding Monmouth's team name.

The Roop · October 28, 2009, 12:45:06 PM

Still lots of games to be played 'fightin scottie' so for now it's all good natured speculation. On one hand Mt. Monmouth is a good fit geographically in the north, but on the other hand I see no reason to move a team if they would only be a 3 or 4.

fightintitan2006 · October 28, 2009, 02:49:00 PM

DutchHawk,

I agree with you completely and don't believe Monmouth deserves to be above Central and Linfield, but call it a gut feeling that they will be above one or both.

When are the first Regional rankings due to be released?

DutchHawk · October 28, 2009, 02:54:32 PM

Quote from: fightintitan2006 on October 28, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
DutchHawk,

I agree with you completely and don't believe Monmouth deserves to be above Central and Linfield, but call it a gut feeling that they will be above one or both.

When are the first Regional rankings due to be released?

This afternoon I believe.

SNCOLDAD · October 28, 2009, 03:02:33 PM

Dutch hawk, I think it would be more likely that Central move to the North out of them or UWW. UWW would be a higher head to head seed and so stay in the easier bracket. Central would go North with the Saints. (John and Tom if Tom makes it) I also think that if Central plays a very strong game against Wartburg, they will get a higher seed than Monmouth if they are in the same region. No comment on Linfield. How do you know how good the west coast teams are if the only team they face here is UWW.

MWCfan787 · October 28, 2009, 03:03:54 PM

Quote from: The Roop on October 28, 2009, 12:45:06 PM
Still lots of games to be played 'fightin scottie' so for now it's all good natured speculation. On one hand Mt. Monmouth is a good fit geographically in the north, but on the other hand I see no reason to move a team if they would only be a 3 or 4.

They moved Aurora to the West to be an 8 last year.