FB: Midwest Conference

[mcwaterboy]

I don't see St. Norbert getting in. 

After seeing the finals of the games today and nothing drastic changing, here is my final predictions...

I don't think the NCAA will put Whitewater and St. Johns in the same bracket.  That said Whitewater goes to the North
Here are the seeds

1. St Johns
2. Linfield
3.  Central
4.  Monmouth
5.  St Thomas
6.  Coe
7.  Cal Lutheran
8.  NATHC Camp Lakeland I think?

here are the 1st round matchups

1. St Johns
8. Lakeland

4. Monmouth
6.  Coe/ to avoid Coe vs Central in 1st round

2.  Linfield
7.  Cal Lutheran

3.  Central
5.  St Thomas. 

[coco]

That looks pretty good to me. You know that Linfield/CLU is a lock. The committee will always pair the NWC and SCIAC schools. Hell, we could be #1 and #1 or #7 and #8 and still be paired against each other.

I can't wait until noon tomorrow!

[Maverick]

That looks pretty good to me. You know that Linfield/CLU is a lock. The committee will always pair the NWC and SCIAC schools. Hell, we could be #1 and #1 or #7 and #8 and still be paired against each other.

I can't wait until noon tomorrow!

You hit the nail square on the head coco.  That happened just last year with the NWC and SCIAC champions: #1 seed was Willamette at 10-0 and the #2 seed was Occidental at 9-0, and they were paired against each other in the first round.

Also, we here in the midwest can't wait until 2 pm tomorrow!

[mcwaterboy]

Interesting to see Pat's final predictions

Switching Coe and Depauw.  I guess this could work to avoid Coe from playing Central, but I think it would make more since to just have Coe play Monmouth and St Thomas play Central.  Maybe they don't want Central either the 2 or 3 seed for sure playing St. Thomas the 5 seed that early.  If Pat is right this does make for an interesting scenario for the Scots.  If they were to get past St. Thomas in the first round they would either host Cal Lutheran or travel to Linfeild, which would be exciting.  Either way it avoids the #1 seed in St. Johns for 2 games. 

Of course we'll have to just wait and see at 2pm, should be exciting. 

[MWCfan787]

Not making the field is disappointing, but when it looks like you may have been the last team out....ouch.

My condolences to St. Norbert College

[The Roop]

Well that pretty much defies explanation.

[papa90]

nice to see a home game for the Scots. Can we get some info on their opponent?  Saw they put up 63 this past week.  Should be a good matchup!  Any thoughts on them or what they run?

[badgerwarhawk]

Well that pretty much defies explanation.

Do you think the MWC's difficulty winning playoff games had anything to do with it?  No offense intended, I'm just asking for your opinion.

[SNCOLDAD]

Well, My last post did not make it. That's OK. Probably best. I posted while Pat was still on TV.

My thoughts are this, DARN IT    Basically ranked 27th in the coaches poll and not getting in.

The only blame is in losing to Monmouth. Man, I wish we had played them at the end of the season. That would have been a heck of a game.

Good luck scots.

Maybe we should switch to the other conference where you can get in with a 6-4 record. 

Not bitter. That is how it goes. At least D3 has a playoff. Just very disappointed for a lot of young men that truly deserved to be in the playoffs.


Just one thing left to say:


GO GREEN KNIGHTS

[sju56321]

UST is very good. I understand they switched QBs a few games ago. They have a receiver, Waldvogel, who is very good, ran back a kick-off and punt for TD-so watch out. Their D is pretty good. I think this will be a good game, but I think Monmouth can win by two tds, given your experience and home field. But it will be a difficult game if you make mistakes.

[Scots4]

Well that pretty much defies explanation.

Do you think the MWC's difficulty winning playoff games had anything to do with it?  No offense intended, I'm just asking for your opinion.

I think that is exactly why. I did not have St. Norbert in for this exact reason. We are a bad conference that does not deserve two teams until we make noise in the playoffs. We are one of those conferences that would be eligible for the "play-in" game during March Madness. This is not opinion, it is a fact that many people have trouble grasping.

SNCOLDAD: I do not think the timing of the game had anything to do with it. I honestly feel that SNC was simply outclassed by Monmouth this year. I wish they would have gotten in just to represent the conference but the MWC is not worthy of two bids.

That said, St. Thomas @ Monmouth is one of the better 1st Rd. games in my opinion. As a Scots fan,  I am terrified of this matchup. I would feel more comfortable if Coe was coming into Illinois.

[SNCOLDAD]

Scots4, I will agree with you that not showing well in playoffs is probably the single most reason that the MWC did not get 2 into the playoffs.

I will respectfully disagree with you on the next statement. We may have been out played by you on that specific day. And I believe that yes, the timing did have an effect on the score of the game.

But the one thing I will totally disagree with you on is that SNC was OUTCLASSED by Monmouth.
Scots4, Monmouth may win a game against us, or other teams from time to time.

But do not believe for a minute that Monmouth will ever "OUTCLASS" St. Norbert. Did not happen this year, last year or the year before.

[The Roop]

Well that pretty much defies explanation.

Do you think the MWC's difficulty winning playoff games had anything to do with it?  No offense intended, I'm just asking for your opinion.

SNCs SOS (.491) was better than W&Js (.433). If the committee follows the criteria they claim to SNC is in. You ask a fair question but a conferences history/reputation shouldn't be a factor unless it's a tie breaker type of thing. .452 vs. .448 SOS, or something like that.

[formerscot4]

Well that pretty much defies explanation.

Do you think the MWC's difficulty winning playoff games had anything to do with it?  No offense intended, I'm just asking for your opinion.

I think that is exactly why. I did not have St. Norbert in for this exact reason. We are a bad conference that does not deserve two teams until we make noise in the playoffs. We are one of those conferences that would be eligible for the "play-in" game during March Madness. This is not opinion, it is a fact that many people have trouble grasping.




SNCOLDAD: I do not think the timing of the game had anything to do with it. I honestly feel that SNC was simply outclassed by Monmouth this year. I wish they would have gotten in just to represent the conference but the MWC is not worthy of two bids.

That said, St. Thomas @ Monmouth is one of the better 1st Rd. games in my opinion. As a Scots fan,  I am terrified of this matchup. I would feel more comfortable if Coe was coming into Illinois.

The important question, where and what time is everyone tailgating?

[MWCfan787]

I think geography had something to do with W+J getting in.  They were probably more willing to put them in and bump out a weaker East team, rather than put in St. Norbert in the North or West and bump out a better team from either of those regions.  I'm upset they didn't get in and think they should've made it over W+J, but W+J reward was playing Mt. Union.

As for St. Norbert being "outclassed" my Monmouth.  I don't think you were outclassed as in Monmouth is such a much more classy program, but our levels of play seemed different, as if we were in another class.  I mean Scots scored at will against the G Knights.  If we played again today, maybe the Scots hang 40 instead of 50 or something, maybe the games closer, but there's no doubt in my mind we beat you again.