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MWCfan787

Mr. Football I love your posts so far...keep those Scots hungry.

As for whose got chance...the usual: the non-conf. opponent (Wartburg), SNC, and Ripon.  And by got a chance I mean they will beat them if the Scots don't play their best.  I couldn't see them losing to all three, but 8-2 is definitely possible especially if they struggle week 1.  We'll learn a lot about this team right away against Wartburg.  I'm still hopeful for another 10-0 though.

As for btnt...I agree w/ sncoldad, I like the enthusiasm but only if you still have it after IC gets their teeth kicked by the likes of SNC, Ripon, or Monmouth.  You keep talking about turning a program around has been done before, but you keep refering to d1 programs.  I truly feel that it is much easier to turn around a d1 program compared to a d3 program, and here's why.   In d1 you atleast have the equal playing field of the same amount of scholarships as other schools.  In d3 there are no scholarships, and players choose schools even more based on winning.

I do wish you good luck though this season, as well as everyone in the MWC.
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blu thru n thru

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Enthusiasm and belief, rather certainty, will remain.  They will be tested this year.  Make no mistake, I think we'll be improved, but still a work in progress.  If in two years my predictions are not taking shape, then I'll have to change my rant, but the enthusiasm and support will remain blu thru and thru...  ;)

I use D1 b/c it's my immediate frame of reference, and one in which I believe most have at least some familiarity.  Now as for your D1 vs. D3 comparison, I couldn't disagree more.  But I limit that disagreement to your premise that all D1 programs are on equal footing.  With all do respect, absolutely false.  In fact, there is a growing chasm between the "haves" and "have-nots".  This gap's continued expansion is driven by the ever-growing media influence (largely TV and internet).  Blue chip kids are very savvy to where their best opportunities lie.  Thus, the big and bad are growing bigger and badder.  And you won't see any change in that anytime soon.  

I'll use our local rivalry between the sheep-herders at a&m and THE University of Texas.  There was a time when local blue-chips (those not going OOS) were split down the middle.  The perception was that the opportunities were the same at both.  Now, there is no comparison between the two.  UT doesn't recruit, it selects.  It selects from a pool of players that aren't even putting the ags on their radar.  The Texas School of Animal Husbandry "recruits" from what remains.  Oh, and for the record, that began with the arrival of Mack Brown.  

I know there will be backlash from those trying to maintain the status quo, but there is no way I'll be convinced that the right coach cannot turn a program around.  As long as he has administrative support.  Which Coach Campbell is receiving.  I do agree that winning is a major influence.  Correct at all levels.  My son selected IC because of its dynamic new (relatively) coach and the direction he sees the program heading.  I have said before there are things I know and have seen, that have me convinced that this is a program ready to take a dramatic step up.  Again, maybe it'll take a couple years before y'all are willing to concede that I was right.  This board is not the place for me to make those observations public in defense of my premise.  At least not now.  This year we'll be improved.  In two years, we'll be feared!  Boo-ya! ;D

SNCOLDAD

blu, can I ask you to take a look at St Norbert history. Pay close attention to when the present coach came to SNC. You might find this VERY interesting. :)


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blu thru n thru

Yup!  That is interesting.  It would appear that SNC had lost, somewhat, their championship tradition for a period of about 10 years prior to the arrival of the current coach.  I don't know the reason, but I'm thinking coaching had something to do with it.  And, may I also say, very impressive run since!  Sorry we have to bring it to an end... ;)

Now, I'm expecting some feeback from those that will content that at least you once had a winning tradition and that, historically, IC hasn't.  But winning traditions have to start somewhere/sometime.  IC's is beginning now.  With this coach and the raised level of energy, admistrative support, and recruiting savvy and ability that he has brought.

For those wishing to regurgitate the same historical rhetoric that helps them sleep at night, just remember, the world was not always round...  And to them, I guess I should confirm, y'all are aware that the world's no longer flat, right?  :)


bleedpurple

I completely agree with Blu that a coach can turn around a D3 program. But I admit I laughed out loud at the claim IC will be "feared" in two years. How far you figure that fear to extend, Blu? I follow a difference conference, but just wondering if you think the fear will spread over the entire states of Illinois and Wisconsin. I know fear is one emotion we haven't experienced much of lately in my neck of the woods!  ;)

blu thru n thru

Quote from: bleedpurple on August 18, 2010, 02:01:41 PM
I completely agree with Blu that a coach can turn around a D3 program. But I admit I laughed out loud at the claim IC will be "feared" in two years. How far you figure that fear to extend, Blu? I follow a difference conference, but just wondering if you think the fear will spread over the entire states of Illinois and Wisconsin. I know fear is one emotion we haven't experienced much of lately in my neck of the woods!  ;)
You're safe for now.  The fear is only extended to the MWC.  3 years from now, you'll be served notice. ;D

Redhawk Sighting

Quote from: blu thru n thru on August 18, 2010, 01:19:33 PM
Yup!  That is interesting.  It would appear that SNC had lost, somewhat, their championship tradition for a period of about 10 years prior to the arrival of the current coach.  I don't know the reason, but I'm thinking coaching had something to do with it.  And, may I also say, very impressive run since!  Sorry we have to bring it to an end... ;)

Now, I'm expecting some feeback from those that will content that at least you once had a winning tradition and that, historically, IC hasn't.  But winning traditions have to start somewhere/sometime.  IC's is beginning now.  With this coach and the raised level of energy, admistrative support, and recruiting savvy and ability that he has brought.

For those wishing to regurgitate the same historical rhetoric that helps them sleep at night, just remember, the world was not always round...  And to them, I guess I should confirm, y'all are aware that the world's no longer flat, right?  :)



Are you getting paid from IC for all this banter?  ;D I love the faith and excitement that you show for your son and for IC, it's great to see people on here with passion..... But I agree that you will need to come back to IC after your son has graduated to see a school to be reckening with... 

I would make the trip to the IC game if I knew I would be able to put a face with the name.. 

Have a great day and sounds like camp is going well for the Red Hawks..  Anyone else know abou their teams?

scottie

Some might argue that Coach Bell did a pretty good job turning around the MC program.....
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blu thru n thru

Quote from: scottie on August 18, 2010, 03:44:34 PM
Some might argue that Coach Bell did a pretty good job turning around the MC program.....
Okay, so now everyone's got a story about coaches turning programs around??? ;)  Kidding aside.  Met him.  Very good guy.  There's reason for his success, too. 


blu thru n thru

Quote from: Redhawk Sighting on August 18, 2010, 03:33:50 PM
Quote from: blu thru n thru on August 18, 2010, 01:19:33 PM
Yup!  That is interesting.  It would appear that SNC had lost, somewhat, their championship tradition for a period of about 10 years prior to the arrival of the current coach.  I don't know the reason, but I'm thinking coaching had something to do with it.  And, may I also say, very impressive run since!  Sorry we have to bring it to an end... ;)

Now, I'm expecting some feeback from those that will content that at least you once had a winning tradition and that, historically, IC hasn't.  But winning traditions have to start somewhere/sometime.  IC's is beginning now.  With this coach and the raised level of energy, admistrative support, and recruiting savvy and ability that he has brought.

For those wishing to regurgitate the same historical rhetoric that helps them sleep at night, just remember, the world was not always round...  And to them, I guess I should confirm, y'all are aware that the world's no longer flat, right?  :)



Are you getting paid from IC for all this banter?  ;D I love the faith and excitement that you show for your son and for IC, it's great to see people on here with passion..... But I agree that you will need to come back to IC after your son has graduated to see a school to be reckening with... 

I would make the trip to the IC game if I knew I would be able to put a face with the name.. 

Have a great day and sounds like camp is going well for the Red Hawks..  Anyone else know abou their teams?

Paid?  Yeah!  I'm getting paid about -$30K/year.  That'll create some enthusiasm.  Actually, Coach Campbell would probably rather have me keep a lower profile.  But hey, that just ain't my style. 

We will meet.  Don't suspect it'll be this year, though.  Jamie's probably not gonna play much, if at all.  But I'm hitting the Lake Forest (Family Day) game, Knox (Homecoming), and Beloit (away) this year.   

Camp at IC has been great.  With the heat, they've been working out in their new bubble.  That's nice!

SNCOLDAD

blu, why the Beloit game out of curiosity?     ???
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blu thru n thru

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Quote from: SNCOLDAD on August 18, 2010, 05:11:06 PM
blu, why the Beloit game out of curiosity?     ???

You don't see the theme?  Looking for an easy "W"!  Duh!

blu thru n thru

Quote from: blu thru n thru on August 18, 2010, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: SNCOLDAD on August 18, 2010, 05:11:06 PM
blu, why the Beloit game out of curiosity?     ???

You don't see the theme?  Looking for an easy "W", duh!


Just kidding. ;D  Thought we might could wake up The Roop... 

Chicago's an easy in & out and I have an aunt that lives in Rockford who wants to see a game.  She can't travel too far, so the geography works.  She'll make others the following year.  SNC is a MUST, but I'm timing that for when I'm more certain we'll come away with a win... ;)

Redmen09

I was hoping Ripon was away at SNC this year so I could check out the new stadium. I wonder if the stadium will be 100% done by Sept. 25th.
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SNCOLDAD

Took a tour of the new stadium this past Saturday. It will be ready for opening day Labor Day weekend against St Thomas. Now remember. All you need is a field - it is great - bleachers - all in place - scoreboard - up and I believe it has been tested with 25 second clocks - and an area to tailgate - Oh Yeah, the tailgating will start at 9:00 AM sharp!

It is beautiful and something that all can be proud of, especially one person. You know who you are. :)

I said it before and I will say it again.... I Look forward to IC visiting us and both teams being undefeated at that time.

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