FB: Midwest Conference

[Moncolfan]

No just someone they think they can beat........ I think Cornell will win 4 games maybe 5 depending on how the schedule plays out. Nothing against Cornell or adding another team, but I do not like the format of teams not all playing one another. Who would get the bid of two teams went undefeated? Or is it fair that one team misses Lake Forest and has to play St. Norberts, while another gets Lake Forest and misses Monmouth? I certainly hope it doesn't come down to overall record because then teams will revert back to scheduling the easiest non conference game they can. One of the rumors I have heard is that MC is opening up the season with Coe next year.

[warthog]

No just someone they think they can beat........ I think Cornell will win 4 games maybe 5 depending on how the schedule plays out. Nothing against Cornell or adding another team, but I do not like the format of teams not all playing one another. Who would get the bid of two teams went undefeated? Or is it fair that one team misses Lake Forest and has to play St. Norberts, while another gets Lake Forest and misses Monmouth? I certainly hope it doesn't come down to overall record because then teams will revert back to scheduling the easiest non conference game they can. One of the rumors I have heard is that MC is opening up the season with Coe next year.

Tanney finally graduates and Monmouth falls off the Wartburg schedule?  I protest! 

[FightnScot77]

No just someone they think they can beat........ I think Cornell will win 4 games maybe 5 depending on how the schedule plays out. Nothing against Cornell or adding another team, but I do not like the format of teams not all playing one another. Who would get the bid of two teams went undefeated? Or is it fair that one team misses Lake Forest and has to play St. Norberts, while another gets Lake Forest and misses Monmouth? I certainly hope it doesn't come down to overall record because then teams will revert back to scheduling the easiest non conference game they can. One of the rumors I have heard is that MC is opening up the season with Coe next year.

Moncolfan, let's put this away until after the postseason, but since you asked and inquiring readers want to know...

Next year's MWC dates are set for conference opponents and locations for 2012 @

http://www.midwestconference.org/custompages/Future%20Schedules/2012%20-%20MWC%20Football%20Schedule.pdf

The document doesn't provide non-conf. matchups; although St. Norbert and John Carroll go overseas. Eureka and KnoxontheRise battle for the inaugural Reagan-Lincoln-Douglas Cup.

Highlights:
•Monmouth will not have a repeat with Carroll as Scots give CU a one year grace period.
•St. Norbert and Illinois College don't (have to) meet one another. Didn't see this coming.
•Cornell and Ripon will have to wait a year to match up. (Have they ever met on the gridiron?)
•Beloit will not see Lake Forest in '12.
•Lawrence contest with St. Norbert is non-conf; SNC will count it thou as conf. contest for them.

Monmouth has a bye week 9/15/2012. These are a select few of the 21 D3 schools looking for date on 9/15...

Salisbury
St. Scholastica
UW-Whitewater
Wartburg
Washington and Lee
Wesley
Wheaton (Ill.)

I pondered, what if...
Just wait, wait, wait...I think I hear a buzz in...
Alex, I'll take "Bullet missed" for $1,000 please. The answer is....

[fulbakdad]

Ash,

Welcome to the board.  You'll find most guys on here have fun.  But we have a few tool bags.  There are some that think there are only 2 or 3 worthy teams in the MWC.  One is Mon fan.  His team just kicked my sons teams butt this year (Lake Forest).  The final score was 53-48.  I'm not sure how we ever recovered from that throttling......I wish they had a mercy rule.

Hey Mon Fan, was it really that traumatic when those kids were taking your lunch money when you were young?  You found an outlet were you can let loose like all the other internet hero's?

Again Ash,  Look forward to talking to you.

[gbpuckfan]

OK, maybe I've missed this, but how will the SNC-LU game work for standings?

If it's conference for SNC but not Lawrence, will SNC have one more conf game than everyone else - or will Lawrence have one fewer? Does the title get decided by winning percentage? Does that give SNC an advantage if it goes 9-1 and someone goes 8-1?

It was my understanding there would be no math...

[FightnScot77]

OK, maybe I've missed this, but how will the SNC-LU game work for standings?

If it's conference for SNC but not Lawrence, will SNC have one more conf game than everyone else - or will Lawrence have one fewer? Does the title get decided by winning percentage? Does that give SNC an advantage if it goes 9-1 and someone goes 8-1?

It was my understanding there would be no math...

Note simply, Lawrence plays no out-of-conference teams next year. They play Cornell first out of the box, could have been Conference Commissioner decision to allow later season game with SNC being their non-conference opponent.

As it will become, all teams get a bye week in the eleven week season. All teams will count their nine conference games in the tilt for the MWC championship. It would have been interesting thou to allow LU to count 10 in the conference.

Larry U and Cornell may have agreed to match up early to allow Cornell's rivalry game with Coe to be later in season.

I remember well the Knox/MC game in the 80s which was moved by the conference to very early in the season, what a joke that was. The Bronze Turkey game in September of all things!

It is what it is...

[warthog]

Cornell Football 2012-Games they will win-Games they will lose-Games they might win.
Monmouth
Illinois College
St. Norbert
Carroll
Ripon
Grinnell
Lake Forest
Beloit
Lawrence
Knox

[Moncolfan]

For once we agree Fulb there really were only three decent teams in the MWC this year.  Sorry if that hurts your feelings but thats what it is. Hopefully things will change in the future. I do know you guys at LFC will be talking about your near miss against the Scots years from now.  Its pretty bad when your best game you played all year was basically a two score loss against a team that played their worst game of the year. Using your own words it says a lot when a team is tip toeing , out of bounds and sliding when they are losing the game! Not too worried were they.  I am hoping the Scots can pull out a win in the playoffs but they will be an underdog regardless of who they play. Realistically they are going to have to play their best game of the year on both sides of the ball to have a chance. Its just hard to tell how good this team is or what it is capable of with the conference they play in. I will say this win lose or draw I am sure there are some of the higher seeded teams that would rather play someone else than MC in the first round. Finally Hog if you think MC's program is going away with the departure of Tanney and Blogett think again. I'll put my money down on the Scots to repeat as MWC champs next year.

[TitanPride]

No just someone they think they can beat........ I think Cornell will win 4 games maybe 5 depending on how the schedule plays out. Nothing against Cornell or adding another team, but I do not like the format of teams not all playing one another. Who would get the bid of two teams went undefeated? Or is it fair that one team misses Lake Forest and has to play St. Norberts, while another gets Lake Forest and misses Monmouth? I certainly hope it doesn't come down to overall record because then teams will revert back to scheduling the easiest non conference game they can. One of the rumors I have heard is that MC is opening up the season with Coe next year.

Moncolfan, let's put this away until after the postseason, but since you asked and inquiring readers want to know...

Next year's MWC dates are set for conference opponents and locations for 2012 @

http://www.midwestconference.org/custompages/Future%20Schedules/2012%20-%20MWC%20Football%20Schedule.pdf

The document doesn't provide non-conf. matchups; although St. Norbert and John Carroll go overseas. Eureka and KnoxontheRise battle for the inaugural Reagan-Lincoln-Douglas Cup.

Highlights:
•Monmouth will not have a repeat with Carroll as Scots give CU a one year grace period.
•St. Norbert and Illinois College don't (have to) meet one another. Didn't see this coming.
•Cornell and Ripon will have to wait a year to match up. (Have they ever met on the gridiron?)
•Beloit will not see Lake Forest in '12.
•Lawrence contest with St. Norbert is non-conf; SNC will count it thou as conf. contest for them.

Thanks for posting!  No more Week 11 bye for everyone.

[Ash Park]

Ash,

Welcome to the board.  You'll find most guys on here have fun.  But we have a few tool bags.  There are some that think there are only 2 or 3 worthy teams in the MWC.  One is Mon fan.  His team just kicked my sons teams butt this year (Lake Forest).  The final score was 53-48.  I'm not sure how we ever recovered from that throttling......I wish they had a mercy rule.

Hey Mon Fan, was it really that traumatic when those kids were taking your lunch money when you were young?  You found an outlet were you can let loose like all the other internet hero's?

Again Ash,  Look forward to talking to you.

Thank you. Look forward to it.....I'm sure some of the other Cornell posters will be coming along for the ride as well.

[Ash Park]

Cornell Football 2012-Games they will win-Games they will lose-Games they might win.
Monmouth
Illinois College
St. Norbert
Carroll
Ripon
Grinnell
Lake Forest
Beloit
Lawrence
Knox

I don't think they play Ripon next  year. I disagree with Grinnell....as I think that is one they win. Don't use the 2008 loss as your reasoning either....different coach and different players now. I think Carroll is one they might win. Other than the previously mentioned I agree with you    Cornell will have a solid group of guys coming back for them and they will continue to have another strong recruiting class. I think they go 5-5 ....maybe 6-4 and I am not saying that because of the conference they are playing in. I am saying this because they will have a lot guys back who are battle tested now. Should be an interesting year for sure.

[warthog]

Finally Hog if you think MC's program is going away with the departure of Tanney and Blogett think again. I'll put my money down on the Scots to repeat as MWC champs next year.

I don't think I said MC football is going away.  I said Tanney is going away.  Lets be honest here a talent like his very seldom shows up at any NCAA D3 football program.  I don't believe he has been a one man show, but if any player can carry a team on his shoulders it is him.  I don't care if it is Monmouth or Wartburg - hell - I don't care if it is UWW or Mount Union, when a player of that caliber finally hangs it up it is going to hurt to some degree.

[gbpuckfan]

I didn't look it up but the 12 team was in place long enough that I would say Cornell played all of the MWC teams before leaving. The North teams would take 6 years to complete a cycle of home-and-home games against the South.

[formerscot4]

When I played at Monmouth we played 2 divisions with a title game at the end.
Coe                        Beloit
Cornell                   Lake Forest
Monmouth              Lawrence
Knox                      Ripon
Illinois College         St Norbert
Grinnell

So I am sure that with cross over games Cornell has played everyone in the past.

Best of luck to the Scots in their matchup with Dubuque!! How high will the score go in this game!!!

[formerscot4]

When I played at Monmouth we played 2 divisions with a title game at the end.
Coe                        Beloit
Cornell                   Lake Forest
Monmouth              Lawrence
Knox                      Ripon
Illinois College         St Norbert
Grinnell

So I am sure that with cross over games Cornell has played everyone in the past.

Best of luck to the Scots in their matchup with Dubuque!! How high will the score go in this game!!! (Sorry this is just based off the predicted bracket, jumped the gun a little)