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hickory_cornhusker

Quote from: fulbakdad on October 08, 2012, 08:59:07 AM
What about the funny schedule now?  SNC could become the league champs without having to play IC!  That wouldn't be right.....I saw an SNC tweet yesterday that played the what if game.  Had to take a second look. 

Can we all now vote to rearrange the schedule so that the teams at the top at least have to play the teams at the top left?  LOL.

Add another team, adjust the schedules and have a conference championship game Week 11.

warthog

Quote from: Maverick on October 06, 2012, 06:39:53 PM
Quote from: gbpuckfan on October 06, 2012, 06:05:38 PM
Grinnell beats Monmouth 21-7

Wasn't able to watch today and I don't even know what to say...

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fulbakdad

#8237
I totally agree with the playoff game.  Even without the extra team.  At the end of this season, I see the posiblity of two teams having arguments for the crown and for it to come down to a tie breaker would suck.

Hey, I got the video clip of the catch that set up the LFC go ahead TD.  From my seat it looked like Sobey had taken the ball out of the hands of the IC defender, but film is always better.  He makes an unbelievable one handed grab of the ball thrown behind him.

To set it up, the teams are tied, there's 1:50 left or so, LFC has the ball on the IC 20, 4th and 10.  Instead of kicking the Field Goal, LFC goes for it.  Watch this 15 second clip....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWvYdrB2eyU&feature=plcp

sncsid

You need 12 teams to stage a conference championship game and have it count as a legal 11th game. The rule all of the mega-FBS conferences use to stage their championship games takes advantage of a rule that was originally Division III legislation. It's also why the Big XII doesn't have one anymore. They don't have 12 teams.

fulbakdad

I didn't expect it would be done, I was just saying it would be the only way for a just outcome.

I forsee a mess!

scottie

Monmouth may end up joining the B1G and solve this dilemma.   ;D  ;D  ;D
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MasterJedi

I hear there has been talk at Marian forever of starting up football. Force them to do it and then you have your 12th team which I believe would fit it well with the conference.

gbpuckfan

Quote from: MasterJedi on October 08, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
I hear there has been talk at Marian forever of starting up football. Force them to do it and then you have your 12th team which I believe would fit it well with the conference.

While Marian might be a nice fit for the conference for a number of reasons, given budgets and Title IX that's much easier said than done to "force them" to do it. Are you going to go all Pegula & Penn State hockey on them to allow them afford it?

And, if the schools were that concerned about the unbalanced schedule, we could play a 'closed schedule' and have a full round robin now. It's not like MWC teams are going out there and earning at-large NCAA bids on the strength of non-conference wins, so you could get rid of them and not hurt that aspect. I'm sure there's some other downside i haven't thought of (and I do like at least one non-conf game), but it is an option if there's some hue and cry about it.

As for SNC being able to win the conference w/o playing IC, that was the case even before this weekend's action. If quarters led is the top tiebreaker, I suspect that the Blueboys are likely ahead of SNC in that regard. (I readily admit I have not looked that up).

I am frankly more worried SNC being able to beat Lawrence this week as opposed to running the table somehow. SNC could/should/might beat Lawrence and Beloit. Grinnell and LFC are different matters entirely. One game at a time.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on October 08, 2012, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 08, 2012, 08:59:07 AM
What about the funny schedule now?  SNC could become the league champs without having to play IC!  That wouldn't be right.....I saw an SNC tweet yesterday that played the what if game.  Had to take a second look. 

Can we all now vote to rearrange the schedule so that the teams at the top at least have to play the teams at the top left?  LOL.

Add another team, adjust the schedules and have a conference championship game Week 11.

Quote from: sncsid on October 08, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
You need 12 teams to stage a conference championship game and have it count as a legal 11th game. The rule all of the mega-FBS conferences use to stage their championship games takes advantage of a rule that was originally Division III legislation. It's also why the Big XII doesn't have one anymore. They don't have 12 teams.

He did say to add another team.
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gbpuckfan

One more Marian thought: even if the Sabres add football, what makes you think they would jump conferences to the MWC? The NAC already has it and I'm not sure the MWC would be such a jump up in stature.
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gbpuckfan

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: hickory_cornhusker on October 08, 2012, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: fulbakdad on October 08, 2012, 08:59:07 AM
What about the funny schedule now?  SNC could become the league champs without having to play IC!  That wouldn't be right.....I saw an SNC tweet yesterday that played the what if game.  Had to take a second look. 

Can we all now vote to rearrange the schedule so that the teams at the top at least have to play the teams at the top left?  LOL.

Add another team, adjust the schedules and have a conference championship game Week 11.

Quote from: sncsid on October 08, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
You need 12 teams to stage a conference championship game and have it count as a legal 11th game. The rule all of the mega-FBS conferences use to stage their championship games takes advantage of a rule that was originally Division III legislation. It's also why the Big XII doesn't have one anymore. They don't have 12 teams.

He did say to add another team.

I think SNCSID may have been just responding to fullbakdad's comment.
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NCAA D3 Hockey National Champions 2008, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2018
Midwest Conf. football champs: 85, 87, 88, 89, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 06, 07, 10, 12, 13, 15, 18

TitanPride

Quote from: fulbakdad on October 08, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
Titan,

I didn't see anything else about the injured IC player with the possible neck/head injury.  I'm assuming he's ok????

It sounds like the good news is that he will have no long term injuries to his neck/spine.  The bad news is he suffered his second concussion in as many weeks and is likely done with football for the year, if not forever. 

hickory_cornhusker

Quote from: gbpuckfan on October 08, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: MasterJedi on October 08, 2012, 05:32:53 PM
I hear there has been talk at Marian forever of starting up football. Force them to do it and then you have your 12th team which I believe would fit it well with the conference.

While Marian might be a nice fit for the conference for a number of reasons, given budgets and Title IX that's much easier said than done to "force them" to do it. Are you going to go all Pegula & Penn State hockey on them to allow them afford it?

And, if the schools were that concerned about the unbalanced schedule, we could play a 'closed schedule' and have a full round robin now. It's not like MWC teams are going out there and earning at-large NCAA bids on the strength of non-conference wins, so you could get rid of them and not hurt that aspect. I'm sure there's some other downside i haven't thought of (and I do like at least one non-conf game), but it is an option if there's some hue and cry about it.

As for SNC being able to win the conference w/o playing IC, that was the case even before this weekend's action. If quarters led is the top tiebreaker, I suspect that the Blueboys are likely ahead of SNC in that regard. (I readily admit I have not looked that up).

I am frankly more worried SNC being able to beat Lawrence this week as opposed to running the table somehow. SNC could/should/might beat Lawrence and Beloit. Grinnell and LFC are different matters entirely. One game at a time.

Title IX wouldn't be as big of a problem as it would with most schools since Marian added women's hockey and only women's hockey four years ago. There has been a lot of improvements on the athletic side of Marian's campus (the new baseball field, the indoor practice facility for baseball and softball) but football is still a ways away.

fulbakdad

Titan, That's good and bad news.  Sorry to hear that, but I'm glad it wasn't the worst.  He really did make a valant attempt for that ball.  That was the kind of football play that gets my respect.

rome

Beloit?
looking at 0-10 this year?

tell me there is hope...anyone?