FB: Midwest Conference

The Roop · September 22, 2013, 09:26:47 AM

TitanPride I think you spent too much time on your analysis. Right now I see the MWC as. (in no particular order) SNC, Monmouth, Ripon, Carroll, IC, LFC and the rest. On the plus side however I'm glad it's not a two team conference any more. Sure, they could be a 3 loss team in the playoffs but the competition will make them better so hopefully the MWC Rep isn't a 1st round bye for somebody.

scottie · September 22, 2013, 12:34:14 PM

T-Pride: You're a great American!

The Roop · September 24, 2013, 10:59:24 PM

1. Who will be the two teams that take out Monmouth ?? Beloit really needs tie breaker help as they don't play Lake Forest this year. 2. Why is UW-Whitewater always ducking the Bucs ?? I'm getting tired of seeing Chicago as the non-conference game every year.

gbpuckfan · September 25, 2013, 10:42:56 PM

Quote from: The Roop on September 24, 2013, 10:59:24 PM
1. Who will be the two teams that take out Monmouth ?? Beloit really needs tie breaker help as they don't play Lake Forest this year. 2. Why is UW-Whitewater always ducking the Bucs ?? I'm getting tired of seeing Chicago as the non-conference game every year.

When was the last time a MWC team beat a WIAC team? SNC has had some pretty good teams (relatively speaking) and I don't think the Knights have beaten a state team since downing Platteville in 1983. I know Ripon came close with UWO a few years ago. Point is, if you basically have no chance of winning, is it advantageous to play?

That said, I still wish SNC would play UWO or UWSP. They play in other sports. But since the playing field isn't really all that level, is it a good idea?

Redhawk Sighting · September 26, 2013, 09:30:09 AM

Quote from: gbpuckfan on September 25, 2013, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: The Roop on September 24, 2013, 10:59:24 PM
1. Who will be the two teams that take out Monmouth ?? Beloit really needs tie breaker help as they don't play Lake Forest this year. 2. Why is UW-Whitewater always ducking the Bucs ?? I'm getting tired of seeing Chicago as the non-conference game every year.

When was the last time a MWC team beat a WIAC team? SNC has had some pretty good teams (relatively speaking) and I don't think the Knights have beaten a state team since downing Platteville in 1983. I know Ripon came close with UWO a few years ago. Point is, if you basically have no chance of winning, is it advantageous to play?

That said, I still wish SNC would play UWO or UWSP. They play in other sports. But since the playing field isn't really all that level, is it a good idea?

"No change of Winning"?? So with that logic does that mean that Lawrence and Beloit should forfeit the rest of their season?? The great thing about football is any Saturday anyone can win. Now would I bet my years pay on a MWC team beating a state school anytime soon..... NO.... But to make a comment saying that it's not "advantageous to play" is ludacris. The great thing about a team playing a state school is it's a different level of play and a learning experience. If you go back and look at my other posts you will see that I think the MWC has a lot that it needs to improve to be considered a top teir conference. In order to get another team into the play-offs is going to take years of have a strong conference and making it a couple rounds in the play-offs. It's not there yet...

The Roop · September 26, 2013, 10:42:56 PM

SNC did beat UW-Whitewater in the play offs a few years back. Check your history before challenging The Roop.

Pat Coleman · September 26, 2013, 10:49:54 PM

Quote from: The Roop on September 26, 2013, 10:42:56 PM
SNC did beat UW-Whitewater in the play offs a few years back. Check your history before challenging The Roop.

I don't know what sport you're referring to, but it's not football. St. Norbert's only playoff win is against Simpson.

badgerwarhawk · September 27, 2013, 10:02:08 AM

Quote from: The Roop on September 26, 2013, 10:42:56 PM
SNC did beat UW-Whitewater in the play offs a few years back. Check your history before challenging The Roop.

The last time the WARHAWKS lost to SNC was 1976 by a score of 6-3. Since that time SNC is 0-4 against the WARHAWKS. I checked the history.

Maverick · September 27, 2013, 11:03:56 AM

Quote from: scottie on September 21, 2013, 10:00:05 AM
With the Fighting Scots AND the Fighting Illini BOTH with a bye week, me thinks Mav is going through some serious withdrawals today!

There were definite withdrawals on Saturday! Luckily, I had a wedding/reception that kept me occupied.

Maverick · September 27, 2013, 11:08:25 AM

Week 4 Games
Beloit @ Grinnell - GC
Cornell @ Monmouth - MC
Illinois C. @ Ripon - IC
Lake Forest @ Knox - LFC
St. Norbert @ Carroll - SNC

Got a good slate of games for Saturday...St. Norbert/Carroll looks like the game of the week. Good luck Fighting Scots!

Redhawk Sighting · September 27, 2013, 11:14:37 AM

Beloit @ Grinnell - GC ..... Agree
Cornell @ Monmouth - MC ..... hmmm agree

Illinois C. @ Ripon - IC ... RC
Lake Forest @ Knox - LFC ... Knox
St. Norbert @ Carroll - SNC ... Carroll

There is no way that RC is going to lose on homecoming to IC after last week's loss to SNC. I also think Knox is going to get a W against LFC.. The games have been to close so far for LFC and they have come home with a W, the streak ends tomorrow. As for the SNC/Carroll game, I think Carroll is a better team and it's home for them. I see Carroll winning by 3.

The Roop · September 27, 2013, 05:00:23 PM

DTKAS Cornell 19 Monmouth 17 (failed two point conversion)

TitanPride · September 27, 2013, 05:44:00 PM

Beloit @ Grinnell - GC 21-10
Cornell @ Monmouth - MC 35-24
Illinois C. @ Ripon - IC 42-21
Lake Forest @ Knox - LFC 20-13
St. Norbert @ Carroll - Carroll 28-27

scottie · September 27, 2013, 06:21:43 PM

Knox 3 - LFC 2. EEEESH!

gbpuckfan · September 27, 2013, 08:28:12 PM

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 27, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
Quote from: The Roop on September 26, 2013, 10:42:56 PM
SNC did beat UW-Whitewater in the play offs a few years back. Check your history before challenging The Roop.

The last time the WARHAWKS lost to SNC was 1976 by a score of 6-3. Since that time SNC is 0-4 against the WARHAWKS. I checked the history.

SNC has an all-time winning record against 6 state schools and a losing record against 4, including Whitewater.

As I said, I wish SNC would play the state schools. However, I also know that the only conceivable way for a second MWC team to get into the NCAA tournament is to finish with one conference loss and have a non-con win. I think that's more likely against someone from elsewhere than the WIAC. Of course such a win would be preferable.

I'm not sure what good the 41-9 and 45-7 drubbings SNC suffered at the hands of UWW did the last two times they played. Maybe a coach would disagree in that whole "measuring stick" sort of way. I'd rather see them play a midlevel team from another league and have a chance. SNC plays Carthage the next two years - and in concept I like that better.