FB: Midwest Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Scottie, you couldn't count them because if wouldn't be fair.  Let's say Lake Forest played the 2 lowest teams in the other division And Monmouth played the two highest.  You lost your 2 and LFC won ours.  We tied in the division.  You, and the rest of the Scot Nation would go ballistic saying we got in the easy way....

It's not "fair"?  There's nothing inherently unfair about it; it's just the luck of the draw.  One year one team gets a cupcake schedule, the next year another team does.  Two-division conferences across the country do this and rotate cross-divisional opponents (with the exception of the occasional "permanent cross-division rival").  Is it fair that Ole Miss and Mississippi State get to play Vanderbilt this year while other teams have to play Georgia?  No, but it's just the luck of the draw.  We'll see if the Midwest Conference changes anything from this year to the next, ironing out what I would perceive to be some kinks in their initial championship system.

Since an automatic bid is on the line here, I think this is the right way to go (and it's the way the other D-III conferences that had football divisions went when they were in the same scenario). Doesn't make much sense to compare it to a made-for-TV event such as the SEC.

[scottyeagle93]

Scottie, you couldn't count them because if wouldn't be fair.  Let's say Lake Forest played the 2 lowest teams in the other division And Monmouth played the two highest.  You lost your 2 and LFC won ours.  We tied in the division.  You, and the rest of the Scot Nation would go ballistic saying we got in the easy way....

It's not "fair"?  There's nothing inherently unfair about it; it's just the luck of the draw.  One year one team gets a cupcake schedule, the next year another team does.  Two-division conferences across the country do this and rotate cross-divisional opponents (with the exception of the occasional "permanent cross-division rival").  Is it fair that Ole Miss and Mississippi State get to play Vanderbilt this year while other teams have to play Georgia?  No, but it's just the luck of the draw.  We'll see if the Midwest Conference changes anything from this year to the next, ironing out what I would perceive to be some kinks in their initial championship system.

Since an automatic bid is on the line here, I think this is the right way to go (and it's the way the other D-III conferences that had football divisions went when they were in the same scenario). Doesn't make much sense to compare it to a made-for-TV event such as the SEC.

I was not aware that this was the policy previously.  I see that the Division II championships do not do this, which was the point I was trying to make via the SEC example (not entirely comparable, I realize).  I don't know enough about DII but I'm guessing there's more parity between teams and conferences so it wouldn't make as big of a difference as it would in D3.  Thanks for enlightening me!

[grboob]

ing down the road what might happen to the the MWC divisions after Carroll departs the conference in2015 05 2106.  Do they add another new North div. team or ask MAC to depart?

[grboob]

Excuse the bad typing errors in my previous post!!

[fulbakdad]

I believe they would have to get another team or revert to a single division......but could be wrong.....

[Captain_Joe08]

I believe they would have to get another team or revert to a single division......but could be wrong.....

If they plan to get another team to keep it at two divisions, who would they want?

[fulbakdad]

Who knows......

[scottie]

Grinnell will be campaigning for Marantha Baptist.  Oops, wrong sport! 

[gbpuckfan]

Not if you ask Lawrence...

[scottyeagle93]

Given their success this year, I'm sure Macalester would love to stay in the conference.  I am guessing it will just go back down to eleven teams, but if they want to add a twelfth, they might add a travel partner for the (non-Fighting) Scots.  Maybe they would lure Saint Scholastica or Northwestern from the UMAC, although I'm not sure either would want to relinquish their annual AQ bid to play in a tougher conference that will not add any prestige to their team

[gbpuckfan]

Given their success this year, I'm sure Macalester would love to stay in the conference.  I am guessing it will just go back down to eleven teams, but if they want to add a twelfth, they might add a travel partner for the (non-Fighting) Scots.  Maybe they would lure Saint Scholastica or Northwestern from the UMAC, although I'm not sure either would want to relinquish their annual AQ bid to play in a tougher conference that will not add any prestige to their team

Although CSS is in conference with SNC and LU for hockey, I don't see it across the board due to travel costs.

Maybe someone from the NACC?

[fulbakdad]

Maybe we'll add one of the teams Lake Forest used to play back in the day.  Like Ohio State or Michigan.....

[grboob]

Findlandia , the new boys on the block in the UP Michigan could be added.

[grboob]

Potential 3 way tie in the MWC South Division?  IC beat Monmouth, Monmouth beat Cornell  to date:

If Cornell beats IC this Saturday, there is a 3 way tie in the south and then  the "Quarters Lead" option come into play?

Anyone care to do the present quarter by quarter math/stats of the 3 teams? 

Also, what games are included -quarter by quarter  option - Non conference games, all MWC teams or just South Division teams?

Some more drama for Saturday!

[gbpuckfan]

IIRC the tie break is only for in division games