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sncdangler

Quote from: fulbakdad on September 29, 2015, 09:01:10 PM
We would have been 5-5 but we didn'the get to play you.

You wouldn't make a very good lawyer since you're assuming facts not in evidence. The comparative scores weren't in your favor either. I'm kind of disappointed in your response actually. I was expecting something a little more creative.

fulbakdad

You're right.  I should have said we both would have been 5-5.

sncdangler

Quote from: fulbakdad on September 30, 2015, 12:27:02 PM
You're right.  I should have said we both would have been 5-5.

Objection, Your Honor. Again assuming facts not in evidence again.

One thing's for sure though. It's easy to put together a good year or two. It's harder to stay there once you get there.

judgetrainer

Is it really easier to get to the top than to stay there? I would think some kids would want to play for a winning program rather than help build one from the bottom. St John's, Whitewater, Mt. Union, Linfield, others have been strong programs for quite a while. Beloit's last conference title was 1940. Lawrence's last winning season was 1987. If it was easy to win wouldn't some of those places at the bottom rise every once in a while?

sncdangler

Quote from: judgetrainer on September 30, 2015, 04:17:45 PM
Is it really easier to get to the top than to stay there? I would think some kids would want to play for a winning program rather than help build one from the bottom. St John's, Whitewater, Mt. Union, Linfield, others have been strong programs for quite a while. Beloit's last conference title was 1940. Lawrence's last winning season was 1987. If it was easy to win wouldn't some of those places at the bottom rise every once in a while?

The bottom HAS risen every once in a while. Macalester did it just last year and about 10-15 years ago they were worse than any program in the MWC. One of the worst five teams in the country for sure. In my mind if Macalester can do what they did last year then anyone should be able to put it together. Can they stay at or near the top is the question.

judgetrainer

I will give you that one, dangler. I have to wonder, though, if Macalester's first season in MWC says more about the MWC than it does about Macalester.

Gaegerlaw75

As far as I can tell, getting one or two elite talents (D1 run-offs) is what it takes to get to the top. When Monmouth had an NFL QB, they were world beaters. When Carroll had a great RB, they had 8 wins. The trick is recruiting a few every year. As far as I can tell, SNC has been the only one capable of doing so. That is why I am so scared of the massacre we are in for after we leave the MWC. Here's hoping that the up in the prestige of the conference leads to better recruiting. In terms of this Carroll team, the lack of mental toughness is alarming. Chances to win the game on a 1yrd play in both of our losses, and both times we have been piss pounded. Burlingame has been so sloppy in the first two games and our running game has suffered because of it. This week marks the make or break for the season. Homecoming at CU... I guess we shall see

Pat Coleman

Quote from: judgetrainer on October 01, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
I will give you that one, dangler. I have to wonder, though, if Macalester's first season in MWC says more about the MWC than it does about Macalester.

I think it was a combination of a strong year for Macalester and a bit of a down year for the Midwest Conference.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2015, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: judgetrainer on October 01, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
I will give you that one, dangler. I have to wonder, though, if Macalester's first season in MWC says more about the MWC than it does about Macalester.

I think it was a combination of a strong year for Macalester and a bit of a down year for the Midwest Conference.

I was going to say the same thing but Pat beat me to it. In the last three weeks of the year Macalester beat Carroll at home, then went into St. Norbert and won, and then went on the road to Illinois College and won the title. If you would have told me that was possible even five years ago, like Clark Griswold, I wouldn't have been any more surprised had I awoken to find my head sewn to the carpet.

TwoArmedScot

Quote from: sncdangler on October 01, 2015, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2015, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: judgetrainer on October 01, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
I will give you that one, dangler. I have to wonder, though, if Macalester's first season in MWC says more about the MWC than it does about Macalester.

I think it was a combination of a strong year for Macalester and a bit of a down year for the Midwest Conference.

I was going to say the same thing but Pat beat me to it. In the last three weeks of the year Macalester beat Carroll at home, then went into St. Norbert and won, and then went on the road to Illinois College and won the title. If you would have told me that was possible even five years ago, like Clark Griswold, I wouldn't have been any more surprised had I awoken to find my head sewn to the carpet.

I agree with both of you.

It's not how a team starts a season, but how they finish the season.  Many jumped to conclusions that since Macalester lost to Hamline...IN WEEK 2..."what does that say about the MWC?"  Anyone who really truly followed Macalester last year knows that the Macalester team that beat IC in the championship was playing light years better than the Macalester team that lost to Hamline.  That Hamline loss was probably the best thing that could have happened to Macalester...EGO CHECK.  St. Norberts was for sure down last year under...for lack of a better word...DIFFERENT leadership.  I thought that as a whole the MWC South was stronger than the MWC North last year.  IC was a good football team last year.  I would put the week 10 Macalester team and IC of last year right around the same level as an Augsburg of last year.

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Quote from: sncdangler on October 01, 2015, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2015, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: judgetrainer on October 01, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
I will give you that one, dangler. I have to wonder, though, if Macalester's first season in MWC says more about the MWC than it does about Macalester.

I think it was a combination of a strong year for Macalester and a bit of a down year for the Midwest Conference.

I was going to say the same thing but Pat beat me to it. In the last three weeks of the year Macalester beat Carroll at home, then went into St. Norbert and won, and then went on the road to Illinois College and won the title. If you would have told me that was possible even five years ago, like Clark Griswold, I wouldn't have been any more surprised had I awoken to find my head sewn to the carpet.

That's MY line Dangler!!!  ;D
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Week 5 Games

Monmouth @ Beloit - MC
Lake Forest @ Carroll - CU
Lawrence @ Grinnell - GC
Macalester @ Knox - MC
Illinois C. @ Ripon - RC
Cornell @ St. Norbert - SNC

Another solid schedule of cross-over games.  Roll Scots! 8-)
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Quote from: Gaegerlaw75 on October 01, 2015, 12:09:28 PM
As far as I can tell, getting one or two elite talents (D1 run-offs) is what it takes to get to the top. When Monmouth had an NFL QB, they were world beaters. When Carroll had a great RB, they had 8 wins. The trick is recruiting a few every year. As far as I can tell, SNC has been the only one capable of doing so. That is why I am so scared of the massacre we are in for after we leave the MWC. Here's hoping that the up in the prestige of the conference leads to better recruiting. In terms of this Carroll team, the lack of mental toughness is alarming. Chances to win the game on a 1yrd play in both of our losses, and both times we have been piss pounded. Burlingame has been so sloppy in the first two games and our running game has suffered because of it. This week marks the make or break for the season. Homecoming at CU... I guess we shall see

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