FB: Midwest Conference

[scottie]

Scratching My Head. . . .

[gbpuckfan]

Scratching My Head. . . .

Monmouth I get. One loss, and to a ranked team. And Hope is a solid win against a second-place team.

Lake Forest's loss is to Monmouth, so that's OK. But the non-conference wins (Beloit and Carleton) don't help them any.

SNC's losses are two good teams in their leagues, but both losses.

All in all, does it make sense? For Monmouth, yes. SNC, I suppose. Not sure why, given the league's rep, that LFC gets ranked. And they aren't an option for an at-large, in any case, I wouldn't think.

I like that the bracket guess has Monmouth avoiding both UWO and STU in the first round. Not sure SNC would get the same consideration with our losses. But sending Lakeland to UWO makes more sense than SNC...

[judgetrainer]

Agreed, gbpuckfan, all around.

[WW]

Welllll one of SNC's losses is to UWSP, 1-5 and 7th place in WIAC. I'll give you Benedictine being decent in their league but that was a pretty solid beatdown they gave the Knights. But bottom line, SNC is in win-and-you're-in position, and theirs is a better resume than Lakeland's with that win, so this analysis matters little.

Lake Forest... yikes. That's just a mistake. Winless Beloit and Carleton each came closest to notching their only W this year vs the Foresters. 8-1 is 8-1, but that's a squishy 8-1.

[gbpuckfan]

Welllll one of SNC's losses is to UWSP, 1-5 and 7th place in WIAC. I'll give you Benedictine being decent in their league but that was a pretty solid beatdown they gave the Knights. But bottom line, SNC is in win-and-you're-in position, and theirs is a better resume than Lakeland's with that win, so this analysis matters little.

Lake Forest... yikes. That's just a mistake. Winless Beloit and Carleton each came closest to notching their only W this year vs the Foresters. 8-1 is 8-1, but that's a squishy 8-1.

Admittedly, I just looked at 4-5 for UWSP, and didn't look at the WIAC record. My bad.

As for Benedictine, SNC's QB got hurt early, and couldn't do anything offensively after that. I think we still would have lost - and that's a reason, not an excuse. But it would have been nice to see how it would have played out.

I'm not advocating in any way for SNC for an at-large. Absolutely is a win-to-get in for them. Would be nice to see the MWC get an at-large, also, some year. With the WIAC losses, that might have been this year if Monmouth had been undefeated.

[scottie]

While I hope I'm wrong, there's probably no way MC beats SNC 42-7 this weekend (the LFC score).   NOT that I'm suggesting in any way that the MWC is deserving of two regionally-ranked teams.  If they are, however, I have to think the eyeball test goes to the Knights after LFC was exposed so badly by the Scots.

[LB40]

Welllll one of SNC's losses is to UWSP, 1-5 and 7th place in WIAC. I'll give you Benedictine being decent in their league but that was a pretty solid beatdown they gave the Knights. But bottom line, SNC is in win-and-you're-in position, and theirs is a better resume than Lakeland's with that win, so this analysis matters little.

Lake Forest... yikes. That's just a mistake. Winless Beloit and Carleton each came closest to notching their only W this year vs the Foresters. 8-1 is 8-1, but that's a squishy 8-1.

Curious as to how SNC has a better resume than Lakeland when they have the same records and have a common opponent that had very different results?  An SNC loss to BU 29-7 vs an LU win 57-21?

[gbpuckfan]

Welllll one of SNC's losses is to UWSP, 1-5 and 7th place in WIAC. I'll give you Benedictine being decent in their league but that was a pretty solid beatdown they gave the Knights. But bottom line, SNC is in win-and-you're-in position, and theirs is a better resume than Lakeland's with that win, so this analysis matters little.

Lake Forest... yikes. That's just a mistake. Winless Beloit and Carleton each came closest to notching their only W this year vs the Foresters. 8-1 is 8-1, but that's a squishy 8-1.

Curious as to how SNC has a better resume than Lakeland when they have the same records and have a common opponent that had very different results?  An SNC loss to BU 29-7 vs an LU win 57-21?

My interpretation was an SNC title game win against a regionally-ranked opponent in Monmouth would give SNC a better resume than the Muskies.

[WW]

That's basically my case, that SNC's 8-2 with a win over #6 Monmouth would be better than Lakeland's 8-2, but certainly not a slam dunk in light of BU outcomes, and Lakeland's SOS perception. That Hope loss might help them. In any case I think the Muskies should be rooting hard for a Norby win Saturday. Without one, it appears they'll book a trip to Oshkosh.

[Maverick]

Week 10/MWC Championship Week Games

St. Norbert @ Monmouth - MC
Chicago @ Lake Forest - LFC
Macalester @ Illinois C. - MC
Ripon @ Cornell - RC
Lawrence @ Knox - KC
Beloit @ Grinnell - GC

Good luck Fighting Scots!

[scottie]

A good, old fashioned defensive slobber knocker so far in the Maple City.  SNC leads 3-0 at half, with both teams missing one FG each. 

[scottie]

Still 3-0, end of 3rd.  Knights driving.  Good Guys need a TO.

[scottie]

The kick is good!  3-3 with 6:09 remaining.

[gbpuckfan]

Congrats, Scots. Good luck next week.

[scottie]

The championship game goes to overtime.  SNC kicks a field goal, followed by a MC drive and TD!  Good Guys win 9-6.