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fulbakdad

Lake Forest with a 14-2 win today!  Strange for an April posting.....

WW

How bout you, Beloit Bucs — 77 players! And Grinnell over 50! Nice to see these old MWC football stalwarts getting back on their feet.

02 Warhawk

Good morning,

I'll probably be getting the West fan poll up and running again this year. With that being said, send me a message if you're interested in participating. Most likely I'll need few more fans to fill out the 10 spots we have.

Send me a message if you're interested, we'll be happy to have yeah.

West Fan Poll

Thanks!

SpartanHouse

Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

WW

Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

sncdangler

Quote from: WW on September 10, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

Lawrence has 38 players on their roster. What have they been doing on the recruiting trail the last two years. Even Grinnell has far outperformed that pace.

WW

Quote from: sncdangler on September 10, 2021, 06:34:19 PM
Quote from: WW on September 10, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

Lawrence has 38 players on their roster. What have they been doing on the recruiting trail the last two years. Even Grinnell has far outperformed that pace.

Funny, I actually edited out "except for Lawrence" the second before I hit post on that one. I gave them a pass because they had a big win in week one and they had a nice crowd at the Banta Bowl, which is a great place to experience a football game.

SpartanHouse

Quote from: WW on September 10, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

Monmouths loss to Wartburg was different than the '19 loss. IC being down 59-0 to Chicago isn't good.

The conference will see more parity but doesn't look to be competitive of any sort on the national scale. Evident of no teams getting any votes in the rankings.

The loss of SNC is going to hurt.

blue_jays

Quote from: BigRedScots on September 13, 2021, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: WW on September 10, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

Monmouths loss to Wartburg was different than the '19 loss. IC being down 59-0 to Chicago isn't good.

The conference will see more parity but doesn't look to be competitive of any sort on the national scale. Evident of no teams getting any votes in the rankings.

The loss of SNC is going to hurt.

The final score of UChicago vs. IC was unexpected due to how the 2019 game came down to the final play basically. But the Maroons were definitely solid favorites based on their impressive Week 1 win over WashU. On Saturday, the Maroon offense scored with shocking ease, putting up points on 9 of their first 10 possessions. Martini threw for 310 yards and 5 TDs in 2.5 quarters before everyone was replaced by the 2s and 3s. The WR corps is super legit. And RB D'Ambrose can break one off at any time. So far, this looks to be UChicago's most balanced and dangerous offense in many years (excepting the one-year experiment with the air raid in 2016).

WW

Quote from: blue_jays on September 13, 2021, 11:41:13 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 13, 2021, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: WW on September 10, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

Monmouths loss to Wartburg was different than the '19 loss. IC being down 59-0 to Chicago isn't good.

The conference will see more parity but doesn't look to be competitive of any sort on the national scale. Evident of no teams getting any votes in the rankings.

The loss of SNC is going to hurt.

The final score of UChicago vs. IC was unexpected due to how the 2019 game came down to the final play basically. But the Maroons were definitely solid favorites based on their impressive Week 1 win over WashU. On Saturday, the Maroon offense scored with shocking ease, putting up points on 9 of their first 10 possessions. Martini threw for 310 yards and 5 TDs in 2.5 quarters before everyone was replaced by the 2s and 3s. The WR corps is super legit. And RB D'Ambrose can break one off at any time. So far, this looks to be UChicago's most balanced and dangerous offense in many years (excepting the one-year experiment with the air raid in 2016).

The last couple Monmouth-Norb showdowns were good fun, but I don't think the loss of SNC changes that much from a national perspective. This is a league that has won one playoff game in 10 years. It's not going to deliver a national contender. Kinda feel bad for the Scots as a perennial league power because SNC (or the MWC championship) became a game to circle on the schedule that at least wouldn't be a no-fun blowout. That's no longer there, plus you've now got one less potentially competitive NC game to schedule due to decision to play 9 conf games.

But other teams are going to step up. As noted above, watch out for U of C. Monmouth remains my pick, but the Maroons are right there. Oct. 9 will be big...

SpartanHouse

Quote from: WW on September 14, 2021, 08:54:09 AM
Quote from: blue_jays on September 13, 2021, 11:41:13 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 13, 2021, 02:47:45 PM
Quote from: WW on September 10, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 10, 2021, 03:38:14 PM
Looks like it's gonna be a tough year for the MWC. No SNC and Monmouth got thumped by 41 to Wartburg. Not looking good...

5-5 in week 1... that ain't bad (fine, I'm counting Knox, but that wasn't their fault). It's never gonna be WIAC or CCIW for football but all appear to have steady or growing numbers. I'm looking forward to seeing some recent have-nots post more wins, more competitive games and fewer 98-0 outcomes.

Monmouth got thumped by Wartburg in '19 too and ended up winning the league. Trouble with the MWC is winning it earns you a trip to Whitewater in the first round.

Monmouths loss to Wartburg was different than the '19 loss. IC being down 59-0 to Chicago isn't good.

The conference will see more parity but doesn't look to be competitive of any sort on the national scale. Evident of no teams getting any votes in the rankings.

The loss of SNC is going to hurt.

The final score of UChicago vs. IC was unexpected due to how the 2019 game came down to the final play basically. But the Maroons were definitely solid favorites based on their impressive Week 1 win over WashU. On Saturday, the Maroon offense scored with shocking ease, putting up points on 9 of their first 10 possessions. Martini threw for 310 yards and 5 TDs in 2.5 quarters before everyone was replaced by the 2s and 3s. The WR corps is super legit. And RB D'Ambrose can break one off at any time. So far, this looks to be UChicago's most balanced and dangerous offense in many years (excepting the one-year experiment with the air raid in 2016).

The last couple Monmouth-Norb showdowns were good fun, but I don't think the loss of SNC changes that much from a national perspective. This is a league that has won one playoff game in 10 years. It's not going to deliver a national contender. Kinda feel bad for the Scots as a perennial league power because SNC (or the MWC championship) became a game to circle on the schedule that at least wouldn't be a no-fun blowout. That's no longer there, plus you've now got one less potentially competitive NC game to schedule due to decision to play 9 conf games.

But other teams are going to step up. As noted above, watch out for U of C. Monmouth remains my pick, but the Maroons are right there. Oct. 9 will be big...

After two games...I think Chicago is the clear favorite.

SNC leaving and Monmouth appearing to have a down year...is good for the parity of the conference but not the national scale.

scottie

Quote from: BigRedScots on September 14, 2021, 01:08:45 PM

But other teams are going to step up. As noted above, watch out for U of C. Monmouth remains my pick, but the Maroons are right there. Oct. 9 will be big...

After two games...I think Chicago is the clear favorite.

SNC leaving and Monmouth appearing to have a down year...is good for the parity of the conference but not the national scale.
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SpartanHouse

Quote from: scottie on October 15, 2021, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 14, 2021, 01:08:45 PM

But other teams are going to step up. As noted above, watch out for U of C. Monmouth remains my pick, but the Maroons are right there. Oct. 9 will be big...

After two games...I think Chicago is the clear favorite.

SNC leaving and Monmouth appearing to have a down year...is good for the parity of the conference but not the national scale.

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Glad the ascots won. Didn't see that coming.

Comparing The Scots and UC vs Illinois College you woulda thought UC was the better team. Scots also didn't beat Grinnell the way they typically do.

But man, the conference is bad this year.

WW

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Quote from: BigRedScots on October 16, 2021, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: scottie on October 15, 2021, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 14, 2021, 01:08:45 PM

But other teams are going to step up. As noted above, watch out for U of C. Monmouth remains my pick, but the Maroons are right there. Oct. 9 will be big...

After two games...I think Chicago is the clear favorite.

SNC leaving and Monmouth appearing to have a down year...is good for the parity of the conference but not the national scale.

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Glad the ascots won. Didn't see that coming.

Comparing The Scots and UC vs Illinois College you woulda thought UC was the better team. Scots also didn't beat Grinnell the way they typically do.

But man, the conference is bad this year.
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I disagree. At least about the "this year" part. The conference was never very good on a national scale, at least recently. UC is good, and presuming they go 9-1, belongs in the pool C conversation, given a solid beating of CCIW's WashU. MWC went .500 in NC play. I see it as a typical year, maybe a bit stronger and deeper than usual. Even at the bottom, teams like Beloit and Grinnell have more bodies than in recent years.

Sure the league misses SNC but SNC is 2-4 and hasn't even played the big dog yet. This isn't a year that SNC would've raised the MWC's national profile.

SpartanHouse

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Quote from: WW on October 18, 2021, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on October 16, 2021, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: scottie on October 15, 2021, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: BigRedScots on September 14, 2021, 01:08:45 PM

But other teams are going to step up. As noted above, watch out for U of C. Monmouth remains my pick, but the Maroons are right there. Oct. 9 will be big...

After two games...I think Chicago is the clear favorite.





SNC leaving and Monmouth appearing to have a down year...is good for the parity of the conference but not the national scale.

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Glad the ascots won. Didn't see that coming.

Comparing The Scots and UC vs Illinois College you woulda thought UC was the better team. Scots also didn't beat Grinnell the way they typically do.

But man, the conference is bad this year.

I disagree. At least about the "this year" part. The conference was never very good on a national scale, at least recently. UC is good, and presuming they go 9-1, belongs in the pool C conversation, given a solid beating of CCIW's WashU. MWC went .500 in NC play. I see it as a typical year, maybe a bit stronger and deeper than usual. Even at the bottom, teams like Beloit and Grinnell have more bodies than in recent years.

Sure the league misses SNC but SNC is 2-4 and hasn't even played the big dog yet. This isn't a year that SNC would've raised the MWC's national profile.
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Chicago's win Vs Wash U looked good at the time but since the game, Wash U looks very mediocre.

You don't judge how good a team is based on numbers. It's based on results. This years Beloit team is the worst Beloit team I can remember.  Same for IC - what is going on with the BlueJays?

Remainder of the conference is on par with status quo and I think Monmouth is down as well.

Usually our conference rep has a competitive game round 1. I don't think that's the case this year.