FB: Midwest Conference

[SpartanHouse]

Conference was actually 4-5 in NC.

In the 5 losses, outscored 188-48

4 Wins weren't vs world beaters either.....
Wisconsin Lutheran (1-5)
Wash U (4-2)
Augsburg (3-3)
Finlandia (0-5)

Look, I hope the conference fairs well in the playoffs just like everyone else - just appears to be a very down year. And by well, I mean a competitive first round game.

[WW]

Conference was actually 4-5 in NC.

In the 5 losses, outscored 188-48

4 Wins weren't vs world beaters either.....
Wisconsin Lutheran (1-5)
Wash U (4-2)
Augsburg (3-3)
Finlandia (0-5)

Look, I hope the conference fairs well in the playoffs just like everyone else - just appears to be a very down year. And by well, I mean a competitive first round game.

You can cherry-pick all you want, Red. I think the league is healthier than 18 and 19, especially given that this slow-dance of a season is NOT going to result in the usual inevitable SNC-Monmouth dual for the championship (which were always good games, but you knew that's what it was coming down to a year prior).

The worst thing that could happen for the league's chances for a competitive 2021 playoff game did, in fact, happen. Monmouth beat U of C. I think U of C is the better team, but they lost. It happens. You dismiss their win over WUSTL as over a "mediocre team"... WUSTL's only other loss is to the #5 team in the country last I checked. A 10-0 U of C team with that win might've even hosted a game. A 9-1 Monmouth team, with that ugly N-C loss, welp, hope you enjoy Whitewater in November. That will not be a competitive game, and it never has been for the MWC. If you think that means the league is bad this year, so be it.

Lake Forest, Ripon, I hope y'all got some energy going on. And I don't mean to presume that you can't upset this apple cart. There are four teams that could represent the MWC in the playoffs. Undefeated Lake Forest, if they emerge, could get a not-Whitewater draw. But they've got some hurdles to clear that historically, they have not.

[SpartanHouse]

Conference was actually 4-5 in NC.

In the 5 losses, outscored 188-48

4 Wins weren't vs world beaters either.....
Wisconsin Lutheran (1-5)
Wash U (4-2)
Augsburg (3-3)
Finlandia (0-5)

Look, I hope the conference fairs well in the playoffs just like everyone else - just appears to be a very down year. And by well, I mean a competitive first round game.

You can cherry-pick all you want, Red. I think the league is healthier than 18 and 19, especially given that this slow-dance of a season is NOT going to result in the usual inevitable SNC-Monmouth dual for the championship (which were always good games, but you knew that's what it was coming down to a year prior).

The worst thing that could happen for the league's chances for a competitive 2021 playoff game did, in fact, happen. Monmouth beat U of C. I think U of C is the better team, but they lost. It happens. You dismiss their win over WUSTL as over a "mediocre team"... WUSTL's only other loss is to the #5 team in the country last I checked. A 10-0 U of C team with that win might've even hosted a game. A 9-1 Monmouth team, with that ugly N-C loss, welp, hope you enjoy Whitewater in November. That will not be a competitive game, and it never has been for the MWC. If you think that means the league is bad this year, so be it.

Lake Forest, Ripon, I hope y'all got some energy going on. And I don't mean to presume that you can't upset this apple cart. There are four teams that could represent the MWC in the playoffs. Undefeated Lake Forest, if they emerge, could get a not-Whitewater draw. But they've got some hurdles to clear that historically, they have not.

My only point in all this, is that I believe the conference is having a down year. Not puffing my chest up to trash other programs. Certainly not at all any direction I was going here.

I agree that Chicago was the better team this year.

I've made it Clear that I think the Scots won't do well if they represent the conference in the playoffs.

There is a case that Wash U is an average D3 Team this year. There is also a case that the conference is down. I've made a good case for both.

[SpartanHouse]

Scots down 17-3 to Lake Forest in the 3rd

[fulbakdad]

Game over, FORESTERS win!!!!!

[SpartanHouse]

Great win for LF. Congrats

[blue_jays]

UChicago is probably even more disappointed now that they saw Fetterer rather than Boyer in their game a few weeks back. Fetterer's mobility really hurt them even though he did very little in the passing game. Sets up quite the week 10 with the Maroons at Lake Forest.

[SpartanHouse]

Rather shocked Monmouth wasn't able to run the ball vs LF and gave up over 20points to them as well.

Boyer is a better QB for the Scots. They just simply didn't run the ball well.

What's the tie breaker if there's a 3way tie?

[USee]

In a 3 way tie the tie breaker is the team that lead for the most quarters of divisional play during the season.

[fulbakdad]

Are we all sure of the tie breakers?  Last time I remember this talk, I think we found out each conference had their own tie breaker rules.....

[USee]

This is from the Midwest Conference Website:

Division Champions
Division Champions are the teams with the best in-division winning percentage.

Tie Breaking Procedure for Division Champion and Order of  Finish
In the event of a tie, the following criteria shall be applied in order. Once a tie is broken between three or more teams, and two or more remain, the tie-breaking process shall return to the first tie-breaker being head-to-head.

1. Head to head competition.
2. The team that has been ahead in the most quarters of divisional play.
3. If two of the teams have an equal number of quarters in which they were ahead, the tie shall be broken by head-to-head competition.
4. If three or more of the tied teams have an equal number of quarters in which they were ahead, a coin flip by the Executive Director will determine Division Champion and/or Order of Finish.
5. Coin Flip.

[SpartanHouse]

This could get real interesting.

LF has led every quarter in conference
Monmouth has led every quarter except the 4  vs LF
Chicago has led every quarter except the 4 vs Monmouth

Meaning.......

If Chicago beats LF and leads LF for 4 quarters = there will be a coin flip to decide conference champion.
If Chicago wins and doesn't lead for all 4 quarters....LF wins conference.
LF just needs to lead for 1 quarter vs Chicago and wins conference.


If it comes down to a coin flip...Hope there's a live feed!

[WW]

This could get real interesting.

LF has led every quarter in conference
Monmouth has led every quarter except the 4  vs LF
Chicago has led every quarter except the 4 vs Monmouth

Meaning.......

If Chicago beats LF and leads LF for 4 quarters = there will be a coin flip to decide conference champion.
If Chicago wins and doesn't lead for all 4 quarters....LF wins conference.
LF just needs to lead for 1 quarter vs Chicago and wins conference.


If it comes down to a coin flip...Hope there's a live feed!

However, their use of the word "division" makes me wonder if this tiebreaker only applied to the divisional format that they abandoned once SNC split. Although they certainly could use this tiebreaker but it just seems to me it was written to break divisional ties

[hickory_cornhusker]

This could get real interesting.

LF has led every quarter in conference
Monmouth has led every quarter except the 4  vs LF
Chicago has led every quarter except the 4 vs Monmouth

Meaning.......

If Chicago beats LF and leads LF for 4 quarters = there will be a coin flip to decide conference champion.
If Chicago wins and doesn't lead for all 4 quarters....LF wins conference.
LF just needs to lead for 1 quarter vs Chicago and wins conference.


If it comes down to a coin flip...Hope there's a live feed!

However, their use of the word "division" makes me wonder if this tiebreaker only applied to the divisional format that they abandoned once SNC split. Although they certainly could use this tiebreaker but it just seems to me it was written to break divisional ties

If you go back to Page 602 of this thread, the quarters led tie-breaker was on the books in 2013.

[SpartanHouse]

Just feels weird that Chicago could be losing after the first quarter and know they won't be conference champions.

Likewise for Lake Forest, if they are leading after one quarter, they have already locked up the conference title w 3q still to go.