FB: Midwest Conference

[Dolph Stanley]

"They have some great options if they decide to stay in-staff. The success of the program's future will soley depend on how the college allows the new staff to recruit. "

I see no in-staff who I would consider a great choice but would be curious as to who you feel fits that bill.

I am weary of the ongoing cry of Beloit people (I am one by the way) that somehow it is the administration that is the primary factor holding back their sports programs.  DeGeorge is a fine man and an ok coach but at best a below average recruiter. While the administration may have put some requirements on football recruits, much of the blame for the lack of numbers over the past few years must rest with the program itself.  With 27-28 years worth of graduated players around the country, ask how many of them have been contacted in the past 3-4 years requesting that they help with the recrutiing process.  Ask the coaches at the majority of powerhouse high school programs around Wisconsin and Northern Illinois if they currently have a strong relationship with the coaching staff.  Ask those in the know involved with the admissions process if the football programs recrutiing methods have kept place with the changing scene of overall recruiting for small Liberal Arts colleges.

None of this diminishes the accomplishments that DeGeorge has had during his time at Beloit.  However, if he is to be praised for his great success in the ealry 90's it is unfair to try to shift the blame entirely away from him for what has gone on latley

[scottie]

Nice job, Scots! 

Interestingly, my bachelor's and master's schools both won by the same score.  My current school...not so much.

And the Scots are now up to 2 votes in the top 25 poll.  That's a 100% increase!   

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"   

[Early]

Well Hawk Sighting, Ripon played quite well this weekend.  IC isn't as good as other teams the Hawks lost to, but the Ripon this weekend I think (a guess cause I wasn't at Carroll) was better than the team that showed up at Carroll.  I did find out that Nick Quade only played in the first series at Carroll cause of a knee injury.  Not saying that one player would have made a difference, but a guy who usually leads the team in tackles missing sure doesn't help that defense.

Yes there were a lot of people back and it was fun to see everyone again.

[Old Fighting Scot]

keep the snowball rolling scotties!!

[Old Fighting Scot]

Pat,

Why is the quality of wins index important?

[rome]

Dolph

I see Denny Dierick and Brian Bliese as quality choices. (Ceil Youngblood?)

The reason I point my figure at the administration is:

Financial Aid- BC needs to loose the purse strings and allow people to come in-they need to bring in 50-60 kids a year.

Staff size-They need more full-time coaches that are football and football only-allow them to concentrate on recruiting and bringing in talent

The new staff should-host clinics and as you mention build relationships with more H.S. coaches

Localize their approach to recruiting-Beloit is a national institute but they should concentrate on Illinois-Wisconsin-Minni-Iowa-Michigan  this should be their base.

The school has 100 million dollar endowment-let's spend some money on making the Football program something special.

[bobturkviking]

Quade played way more than the first series in the Carroll game, and no - he would not have made a difference.  RE: Beloit, how can you possible suggest anyone from on staff? 

[Dolph Stanley]

"Financial Aid- BC needs to loose the purse strings and allow people to come in-they need to bring in 50-60 kids a year.
Staff size-They need more full-time coaches that are football and football only-allow them to concentrate on recruiting and bringing in talent"

Beloit continues to be a "need blind" college when it comes to admissions so this is not an issue.  If you want to argue that they should reduce academic standards to bring in football players I will lead the resistance. 

The incoming freshman class each year at Beloit is around 300.  Less than half are men.  Do you really want nearly 50% of the incoming men in any given year to be football recruits?

How many full time coaches do think other MWC have on staff.  The head football coach  has only one job (now that DeGeorge is no longer AD) so has plenty of time to improve recruiting.

The new coach at Beloit needs to be someone who can field a team of 50-60 quality players who meet the academic qualifications (not the highest in the country by any standard but much more difficult than some other institutions they will be competing with).  To do this he will have to sell Beloit as a college which is something I'm not sure has been done in recent years.  It will also be important that the program do a solid job of retention since recrutiing classes in the 20-25 range will probably be much more of the norm

[papa90]

Congrads to the Scotties.  They seem to get better offensively every week.  Any thoughts about Player of the Year candidates?  I know about the Scots, but what about the SNB back or the back from Beliot.  How about the reciever from Carroll?  Tell me what you guys think.  4 weeks left, 6-0 here we go.

[1morefan]

For conference player of the year rightnow my vote would go to Tanney the QB from Monmouth. The kid is putting up sick numbers: 121-159, 21 TD's and only 2 INT's, and an avg of 247 per game. By far the top offensive player in the conference.

Behind him (not in order):
His receiver Haffer
Rankinen
Fletcher from Carroll
Meehan from SNC
Maybe Crocker from Carroll, he's got 11 TD's??

Still with four weeks left its up for grabs

[Early]

You are right bobturkviking.....quade actually played in the first 2 series.  I did make a mistake in that.  I know that he didn't play in any more because he told me himself, and I talked to other RC defenders also.   

But when he was in the game.....2 series.....only a field goal.  When he wasn't in.....touchdowns.  Obvioulsy you can't say Quade was a 5 touchdown difference, but he does make a plays when he is in the game.

PTPer Baby!  

[LFCdad]

Congrats to LFC. Nice job last week. Jump out to an early lead and let some young kids get some playing time.Running game showed some life but has to hold onto the ball.D looked good again.Still can't understand why QB has to throw so many long balls??Good luck this week at IC ,play hard  and stay healthy.

[bobturkviking]

Early - Your mistake again.  I was at the game (and standing about 15 feet from the end zone) and distinctly saw #49 in the end zone on Carroll's first TD early in the 2nd quarter (to make it 17-0).  Maybe your buddies are just looking for excuses.

[ScoutTeamHero]

Congratulations to Bob Faulds (Ripon) and Bill Rather (Carroll) on making national team of the week

The Early Lines:

SNC  -13.5    Back on Track, Craig playing well

GC  -5    Someone has to win this awful game

LFC  -7    #10 and his Defense win another game for the foresters

MC  -28.5  Tanney hangs half a hundy, doesn't play the 4th

[scottie]

I can live with those outcomes.   

"Monmouth Football in 2005!"  [/color]

p.s.  Where's Maverick??