FB: Midwest Conference

[fightintitan2006]

I realize that there is still another week to play for the rest of the country, but does anyone have ideas on how the bracket will shape up for St. Norbert?

Has any MWC team ever been moved from the west bracket?

It appears St. John's has a game they could lose this weekend. How would that affect things?

[wc2viking]

Ok!  Couple questions for you!  1.  Do you understand Football?  2.  Do you understand the Ripon/Lawrence rivalry?  3.  Were you at the game?

I stand by my comment.
Answers:
1. Yep
2. If 'understanding' means that I can't call out classless moves, then I guess not.
3. Yep, I was at the game.  Actually, I was sitting a couple rows down from the Ripon coaches in the coach's box.  One of the coaches asked the head coach through the radio, "You going to take a knee here?" So I know at least one Ripon coach thought it would be a good idea to take a knee and end the game.  He actually looked embarassed after Ripon scored.

FWIW, LU was not using timeouts at this point and the TD was scored with 25 seconds left.  Check the box score.

[Hawk Sighting]

Ok!  Couple questions for you!  1.  Do you understand Football?  2.  Do you understand the Ripon/Lawrence rivalry?  3.  Were you at the game?

I stand by my comment.
Answers:
1. Yep
2. If 'understanding' means that I can't call out classless moves, then I guess not.
3. Yep, I was at the game.  Actually, I was sitting a couple rows down from the Ripon coaches in the coach's box.  One of the coaches asked the head coach through the radio, "You going to take a knee here?" So I know at least one Ripon coach thought it would be a good idea to take a knee and end the game.  He actually looked embarassed after Ripon scored.

FWIW, LU was not using timeouts at this point and the TD was scored with 25 seconds left.  Check the box score.

I am pretty sure that NO Ripon coach was embarassed that Ripon scored.  Also the fact that they scored with 25 sec. left, means that the ball was set with atleast 50 sec. left on the clock, they ran down the play clock and scored.  And that would be a good time to start using timeouts.  They haven't used timeouts yet, but would have.  And as my good friend Early stated, Lawrence would have run the ball in on the 1 yard line if the role was reversed.  Now I would understand if it was a PA (play action) pass, but it was a sweep to the outside.  SO lick your wounds, cry your tears, and stop talking about a situation that you have never been in as a coach.  Ask any coach with that same situation (explained correctly) and you will get the same answer, "You don't take a knee on the 1 yard line".

[Early]

We should all probably assume that since wc2viking never commented on my thoughts that he agrees with me.

[PapaSmurf]

I realize that there is still another week to play for the rest of the country, but does anyone have ideas on how the bracket will shape up for St. Norbert?

Has any MWC team ever been moved from the west bracket?

It appears St. John's has a game they could lose this weekend. How would that affect things?

I'm guessing Linfield's loss will drop them down to 10th in the regional rankings if they don't drop out altogether.  This would move Bethel to 7th, SNC to 8th and Wartburg to 9th.  If St Johns wins SNC will probably play them in the first round (if SNC is kept in the west).  If Bethel wins then I think SNC will play Central (if SNC is kept in the west).  If SNC is moved north they should be ranked pretty high and maybe get a first round home game.
In '99 SNC played at Augustana in the first round.  That year seems to be the only one that the MWC champ moved out of the region.

[wc2viking]

wc2viking,

Do you honestly think that if Lawrence had the ball on the 1-yd. line that they wouldn't have put it in if they were up?

Yes, according to the play-by-play, the time left was 25 seconds, get off your judging high horse and admit LU would have done the exact same thing.
I'm sure any school in that situation only up 10 points goes for the TD.

Early: OK, I'll comment:  I have no idea what the LU coach would have done in the same situation.  As an LU fan, I would be embarrassed if LU scores a TD in the same situation.

Hawk Sighting: I've seen numerous times at all levels of football where a team takes a knee instead of running a play that would get them a TD at the end of a game.

OK, I've said all I'm going to about the play.  Onto next year!

[Charlie Kohawk]

I've seen numerous times at all levels of football where a team takes a knee instead of running a play that would get them a TD at the end of a game.

This isn't my fight and I have no direct knowledge of this game, but the discussion caught my eye as I wait for Democratic victories to roll in. There are two falacies to wc2viking's argument, as I see it. One, while you may have seen teams take a knee at all levels, have you ever seen it done on the goal line? I think that situation calls for the defense to make a stop. The second falacy was that it was the end of the game. No coach worth his job would take a knee with time on the clock, timeouts against you and anything less than a 17 point lead.

[RCFB#62]

I've seen numerous times at all levels of football where a team takes a knee instead of running a play that would get them a TD at the end of a game.

This isn't my fight and I have no direct knowledge of this game, but the discussion caught my eye as I wait for Democratic victories to roll in. There are two falacies to wc2viking's argument, as I see it. One, while you may have seen teams take a knee at all levels, have you ever seen it done on the goal line? I think that situation calls for the defense to make a stop. The second falacy was that it was the end of the game. No coach worth his job would take a knee with time on the clock, timeouts against you and anything less than a 17 point lead.

This is completely true, not to mention this is a huge rivalry game.  Even if Ripon was up by 27 pts punching it in from the 1 yard line is something both teams would do, not mention celebrate.  I don't understand why people would get salty about hanging an extra TD on a rival, that is what makes it a great game every year, even if they are not playing for the conference championship they still have a good motivation to make it a great game. 

Jimmy Dahm for MWC coach of the year

[red hawk 88]

So if it was so classless of Ripon to score what about LU coming out throwing the ball twice and calling a time out

[PapaSmurf]

Looks like the SNC faithful will have to root for UWO and/or St Johns this weekend to avoid the UWW buzzsaw in the first round.

[ScoutTeamHero]

The way I see it, there's still a buzzsaw no matter who they play

[PapaSmurf]

Maybe.  But after seeing SNC trounced the last couple of years by UWW, I'm hoping for a change in scenery. 

[Hawk Sighting]

So if it was so classless of Ripon to score what about LU coming out throwing the ball twice and calling a time out

I hate to go against a fellow redhawk, but what LU did was not classless either, if there is time on the clock and you are down, you should be going for a TD.  Sorry 88, but I wanted to say this before viking jumped on you.  So I think it's safe to say that NOTHING that happened Sat. at the game was classless.  Next topic please. 

I would like to see Norberts go far, give the MWC some credit. 

[red hawk 88]

Yeah sorry about that i was just trying to say neither team was classless by saying LU didn't give up so why should've Ripon

[mwcwatcher]

What has to happen this weekend for SNC to play someone other than  St.Johns or UWW