FB: Midwest Conference

[PapaSmurf]

What has to happen this weekend for SNC to play someone other than  St.Johns or UWW

A miracle.
Actually the most likely scenario is that eveyone ahead of SNC in the regional rankings will win this weekend (except Bethel) and SNC moves to 7th and plays St Johns.
Or, Bethel beats St Johns which shuffles the teams ahead of SNC and SNC remains in 8th and plays UWW.
Or, combined losses by UWL and Bethel move SNC up to 6th and SNC would play Central.
A Whitworth or Occidental loss could move them down and SNC up but SNC would still end up playing St Johns or Central.
Central could lose but seeing that lower ranked, 1 loss teams (UWL & Bethel) are ahead of SNC, that wouldn't help SNC.
 

[Emmys First Class]

I'm rooting for the nub jobs, but in no way does any match up look good for them it may be LFC Monmouth ugly in round 1.

[fightintitan2006]

Give the Knights some respect, they are the one MWC team who has shown up in the playoffs. They have played with the Johnnies before and while a win is unlikely,  you never know.

You have to feel for Purtill. This guy has had several teams that could win a couple playoff games in other regions or with a better seed, but an MWC school has to win a game at St. Johns or against a UWW caliber team to gain respect in future seeding.

Its too bad that they the MWC has been labeled the sisters of the poor, because I think SNC could pull it off against a third-seeded central and are much better then some higher seeds in other regions.

[RCFB#62]

Give the Knights some respect, they are the one MWC team who has shown up in the playoffs. They have played with the Johnnies before and while a win is unlikely,  you never know.

You have to feel for Purtill. This guy has had several teams that could win a couple playoff games in other regions or with a better seed, but an MWC school has to win a game at St. Johns or against a UWW caliber team to gain respect in future seeding.

Its too bad that they the MWC has been labeled the sisters of the poor, because I think SNC could pull it off against a third-seeded central and are much better then some higher seeds in other regions.

I agree but St. Nubs needs the rest of the conference to boost there schedule, and we all know that won't happen unless the MWC takes a giant step in the directions that St. Nubs is heading, good recruiting and solid offseason programs. 

[Hawk Sighting]

Give the Knights some respect, they are the one MWC team who has shown up in the playoffs. They have played with the Johnnies before and while a win is unlikely,  you never know.

You have to feel for Purtill. This guy has had several teams that could win a couple playoff games in other regions or with a better seed, but an MWC school has to win a game at St. Johns or against a UWW caliber team to gain respect in future seeding.

Its too bad that they the MWC has been labeled the sisters of the poor, because I think SNC could pull it off against a third-seeded central and are much better then some higher seeds in other regions.

I agree but St. Nubs needs the rest of the conference to boost there schedule, and we all know that won't happen unless the MWC takes a giant step in the directions that St. Nubs is heading, good recruiting and solid offseason programs. 

I agree, I would also like to see the MWC go towards off-campus recruiting.  Now working in a conference that allows that and have done it for basketball, it makes a big difference with athletes. I think it would benifit the colleges in the MWC greatly. 

[PapaSmurf]

I'm rooting for the nub jobs, but in no way does any match up look good for them it may be LFC Monmouth ugly in round 1.

The three SNC playoff games I've seen weren't Monmouth/Lake Forest type blowouts.  They beat Simpson.  They played St Johns tough for a half.  At LaCrosse they led into the fourth quarter.

[Emmys First Class]

Yes I know what took place in the past. My point is how difficult this region is! Tops in all the land by far. They are in any other  region I think they win 2 games, but here I just think it's too tough, hope I'm wrong. Would love a good showing for the MWC.

[fightintitan2006]

RCFB#62,

In regards to boosting the schedule, I thought the top five teams had pretty strong NC games this season, especially compared to the past. Wartburg is likely going to the playoffs, Carthage and Millikin are both traditionally strong CCIW programs, Olivet Nazarene had been good prior to this year and Oshkosh is a top team in the countries best conference. I dont see any problem with them sticking with these caliber teams.

With that in mind, I'm curoius how much NC games would matter or factor for non-playoff teams. For example, had Monmouth beaten Wartburg and St. Norbert beaten Monmouth, would the NCAA take that into account or is it more about who the playoff qualifer beat in NC. Does Pat or anyone else have incite on this?

Also wanted to add that I hope SNC goes back to playing a DIII opponent for NC...does the NCAA care if you beat the #1 NAIA or the #300 NAIA team when seeding?

[BoBo]

Oshkosh is a traditional bottom dweller in the WIAC.  They were suppose to be a middle of the road team this year, but it never materialized.  I like UW-O, as my parents both went there, but they have been a major disappointment to their fans and supporters.  How 'bout scheduling the real traditionally strong members of the WIAC, Whitewater and/or La Crosse???  They and the other institutions have to go to Texas, CA and D1-AA schools etc. etc. , because nobody in the area are willing to step up to a challenge.

[fightintitan2006]

My mistake on UW-Oshkosh and you answered your own question there. Ripon lost by 50 to a bottom dweller in the conference. Why face a 60-80 point loss to UWW or LAX.

I was disapointed to see Ripon pick up the game in the first place. I have heard some schools in Wisconsin wont play WIAC schools and I think all the privates should adopt that rule. When  WIAC schools find themselevs in California or Texas every week they may realize that they don't belong in DIII.

[BoBo]

Why face a 60-80 point loss to UWW or LAX.

When  WIAC schools find themselevs in California or Texas every week they may realize that they don't belong in DIII.

That's a good thought, too.  For example, it's possible to lose 75 to whatever to UWW, like Lakeland College the last couple years, and still win out in their own league (2005) to get a berth in the playoffs.  I guess their coach considered it a good learning experience for his team. Not every program feels that way I guess.  Whatever floats your boat, I say. 

[Pat Coleman]

My mistake on UW-Oshkosh and you answered your own question there. Ripon lost by 50 to a bottom dweller in the conference. Why face a 60-80 point loss to UWW or LAX.

I was disapointed to see Ripon pick up the game in the first place. I have heard some schools in Wisconsin wont play WIAC schools and I think all the privates should adopt that rule. When  WIAC schools find themselevs in California or Texas every week they may realize that they don't belong in DIII.

Unless they offer scholarships, they belong in Division III just fine.

[PapaSmurf]

Yes I know what took place in the past. My point is how difficult this region is! Tops in all the land by far. They are in any other  region I think they win 2 games, but here I just think it's too tough, hope I'm wrong. Would love a good showing for the MWC.

My point is no matter what the past shows or the polls indicate they still have to play the game.  Who knows, maybe they'll be sent north.

[JUSTINTYEM]

Oshkosh is a traditional bottom dweller in the WIAC.  They were suppose to be a middle of the road team this year, but it never materialized.  I like UW-O, as my parents both went there, but they have been a major disappointment to their fans and supporters.  How 'bout scheduling the real traditionally strong members of the WIAC, Whitewater and/or La Crosse???  They and the other institutions have to go to Texas, CA and D1-AA schools etc. etc. , because nobody in the area are willing to step up to a challenge.

What never "materialized".I would saying being 3rd in the WIAC is above middle of the pack.It took coach Phil Meyer a few years to get the kids into his system and to start getting top recruits to come to his program.Its easier to build a Basketball program in a few years than it is to build a Football program in a few.

[dallas]

SJU lost...looks like SNU will probably be traveling to Perkins Stadium to play UWW in the first round.