FB: Midwest Conference

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JUSTINTYEM

Thats still not an excuse IMO. Because there were a couple times when Alvord had punts blocked(not his fault) and they would go maybe 10 yards.  And a few times when he wasnt the one who punted for the Vikings. Bob was the best Kicker,but not the best punter. All-Conference are Individual awards,not team awards. And they should be voted as such.
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Pat Coleman

The coaches see a lot more games than you do, both live and on tape, and they disagreed. Perhaps they saw that Forstrom had a shorter field to work with because SNC's offense was better, yet he still managed to put nearly a third of his punts inside the 20. Alvord only put one in six inside the 20 so obviously he had more field to work with and could kick longer.

Simply kicking long is not the be-all and end-all of punter quality. Apparently the MWC coaches know that.
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 28, 2006, 03:10:46 AM
The coaches see a lot more games than you do, both live and on tape, and they disagreed. Perhaps they saw that Forstrom had a shorter field to work with because SNC's offense was better, yet he still managed to put nearly a third of his punts inside the 20. Alvord only put one in six inside the 20 so obviously he had more field to work with and could kick longer.

Simply kicking long is not the be-all and end-all of punter quality. Apparently the MWC coaches know that.

Definitely gotta agree with Pat here.  There certainly is more to kicking and/or punting a football than just trying to knock it to the moon every single time.
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ScoutTeamHero

I'm certain All-Conference in the MWC is not based on stats.   
People are passed over every year. 

JDL-GDI

You guys do realize that you're arguing about kickers, right?  Just checking.  I guess I can't wait for next season to start either.

By the way- I'm not sure that you can say that the blocked punts weren't at all Alvord's fault.  I was at the Larry-SNC game this year where there were a couple of blocked kicks.  It took the dude forever to get the ball off. 

Emmys First Class

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ScoutTeamHero

So fast I could get 2 or 3 off before they knew....

ScoutTeamHero

6 players from MWC named to All-Region. No First Team, 1 Kicker, and 1 Punter

6 out of 76 players.  Well represented

Emmys First Class

Hero I saw a player from the MWC, power conf. with 25 tackles and 4 picks make a all region team. Do explain.
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ScoutTeamHero

I'm guessing said player intimidated his way onto the all-region team.

One thing I did notice tho was that there was no special team spot on the all-region team.  Possible they wanted a special team player to go along with the kicker and punter from the MWC.

Numbers to back me up-14 punt ret for 94 yds, thats 6.7 avg, no blkd kicks


I think there is a kid playing in a Bowl Game on the 6th of Jan. who wasn't good enough to play at the next level, I don't even think he was all-region.


Questions..

Is it possible to avg. 230 yards of offense per game and not make all-MWC?
Is it possible to be a teams best player and not make all-conf?
Is it possible to be a team MVP and not make all-conf?   

Turns out in fact it is possible to be all of the above and not be all-conf.


Maybe I don't know anything about anything.  It's possible, right?

Record breakers #1fan

Just a quick note, that said player who was not all-conference did in fact house a muffed punt in talahasee.  He took the ball 50 yards the other way against florida state, untouched.  Now the irony is that the play was called back due to a convient call.  I think it is strange that the mwc has no shame in trying to keep him down. 

WMU to the house............................

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coolaw56

And to all a good night, especially Emmy's First Class and his family.  See you all next season.  Go Foresters!

MWCFANFormerINDIAN

All conference for the midwest conference works like this (or doesn't work).  Each coach puts up as many players as he wants.  The coaches vote before they ever get to the conference meeting.  The top vote getter is 1st team, the 2nd highest vote getter is 2nd team, the 3rd highest vote getter is 3rd team.  Honorable mentions are handed out like this.  Every coach can vote for his own player, a player must get at least 1 more vote to be honorable mention.  The problem with this format is for example...you could have 1 player be unaanimous 1st team named on 10 ballots, 2nd team could be named on 8 or 9 ballots, 3rd team could be named on 7 ballots and the honorable mentions could have anywhere between 6 and 2 votes.  That is a pretty big range for honorable mentions

ScoutTeamHero

I heard someone from Lake Forest was given an exemption for another year of elgibility.  Is this true, anyone??