FB: Midwest Conference

[The Roop]

Really surprised that Beloit put up such a fight against LFC...was anyone there to give an insight?

Yes. See my next to last post, #2086, for the particulars.

[rome]

Beloit Fans:

Was forcing DeGeorge out really the right move?

Any signs of life at Bel Wah?

Certainly there is no sign of scoring or moving the ball.

I find it hard to believe that he was forced out as the man had been in coaching for nearly 40 years. Perhaps he just wanted to retire. Besides, if he was forced out I doubt he would still be seen at so many events.

Their upper classmen were all recruited for a running game yet they are now in a completely different scheme. I think that has influenced their performance. For example in the Carroll game they had 5 freshmen on the field at one time. It's hard to have success when you do that. They will get better but it may involve a step back.

I had lunch at Domenicos when I got to town Friday and for the first time in going there for over 30 years my pizza was cut in slices, not squares. This proves the universe is aligned properly for a Beloit win Saturday. You heard it here first.

Roop

We have had our disagreements in the past, but I will say this in regards to the DeGeorge situation--the man loves the school, and has a ton of class. The passion he has for the game rivals none. However, when the administration began to decide not to help him in the recruiting process--then the wheels were set in motion. He did what was best for the program and stepped aside.

When an institution wants to begin to win (especially at d3) it often can by simply allowing coaches to recruit and hiring more full-time people.

No institution can expect great results if it doesn't give their programs what others in the conference have. For example, if schools in your conference are bringing in 40-50 Freshmen each year, then you need to pony up, and make sure you are right in that ball park or you will lose your competitive edge.

Both Monmouth and SNC are committed in this regard, while Beloit in my opinion (at least in the last 10 years) is not.

And no, I am not saying lower standards, I am saying start treating it as an important aspect of your institution, and not a club sport.


Part II

In regards to the offense--the WVU spread is tough to run if you don't get great athletes year in and year out. Plus, I rather enjoyed Beloit running the wing-t/option--it was something people had to prepare for and only saw when they played the Bucs--giving Beloit an advantage.

I believe that if Beloit hired Denny Dieriex (sp.) the OC under DeGeorge Beloit would be moving in a better direction.

I mean what is the state of the program when you lose to Macalster?

[Duck Duck Goose]

Well NO one believed in CCAlum that Carroll could go up to Ripon on there homecoming and beat them!! 

Duck Duck- Carroll was very hungry on Saturday, they feasted on RedHawks!!!  But seriously it was a good game but Carroll is for real!!!

This week IC comes into Carroll's house and guess what? It's Carroll's Homecoming!!!!!!!  I am gonna tell you one thing its not gonna be pretty!  Carroll will roll over IC and be ready for St.Norberts at Home the next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And to that Carroll Alum that picked Ripon! What were you thinking?

1 game at a time Carroll will contend for the conference championship!!!!Keep it going PIO"S

All games went as predicted for last week except for IC losing to LU!!!! Man IC can play bad!!!!

Hey CC Alum, congratulations to your alma mater on the big win, I really didn't think they had it in them.  Make sure however that you don't fall into the overconfidence trap!!!  By that I mean you, not Carroll, as heckling IC sounds a lot like me talking about Carroll's lunch after the Hawks laid the wood to IC.  Obviously I would expect the Wi-Pi's to win, but something in my bones tells me that we have not heard the last of IC.....

Speaking of that, to all the Blueboys out there, what the heck is going on

[CCAlum23]

Duck Duck-  I agree that it can be a bad thing to be overconfident and too cocky!  Carroll understands its a 1 game season every week!  I do believe Carroll will lay the smack down on IC, but they cant under estimate them!!  Jennings can be a threat! but IC is a team that when things go wrong they usually have a snow ball effect!  There players will hell at eachother and they will commit dumb personal penalties!!!!

These next couple weeks will be a good indication of where teams will go!!!

[The Roop]

rome,

If Ed DeGeorge stepped aside that's an entirely different issue than being "forced out". Personally I'll never believe the forced out theory but if it happened, it happened. We can always agree to disagree on that one.

In any event (not the destruction of the world mind you) I'm just glad to see that Beloit has finally acknowledged the fact that you can have successful athletic programs without sacrificing the akademik integrity of the skool. Personally I don't like the spread offense because you leave your defense on the field for too long. You either go 3 and out or score quickly, etc. Defense never has time to recover in either scenario. But, that's what Beloit is running now so I hope they make their version the best as is possible.

 

[bball312]

ccalum23... i think your posts are hilarious. No offense, you werent the only person to pick carroll, many people that I have talked to said it would be a close game going either way. Also they didnt really "feast" on ripon. I think it is way to early to say they will contend for the championship because we all know norberts is coming around the corner and they have the best defense in the conference. Norberts and Monmouth are above the other teams in this conference for many reasons, and they both will be over carroll this yaer as well. Finally, I wasnt as impressed with the TE from Carroll as you are. I understand your overconfidence, and your friendly bias.. but thats just my opinion. But anyways, enough about talking about you... the games this week..

I will start with the easy games
Carroll will beat IC, specially with Jennings not being completely healthy, and carrolls defense is solid.

Ripon will beat beloit... This game might be closer than expected though

knox will beat grinnell....

lake forest will win their second in a row against lawrence..

Game of the week... Norberts against Monmouth. I think that Norberts will make a statement, and cody craig will have a huge day. Monmouths defense is fabulous, however, Norbs has way to many players.

[qbfan413]

Jennings-

Does anyone have an update as to his injury/injuries?

Good luck to the Knights this weekend who need to stay focused 1 game at a time and will make the long road trip to Monmouth.  Hopefully the fans will pack up and make the trip as it should be a great game.

[CCAlum23]

Alrighy fellow posters! Here is the guru's pick for the week!

Grinnell At Knox-  Both pretty poor teams, but I am going to go with Knox sneaking out with a victory! Knox wins 31-24

Lawerance At Lake Forest- Both with a big 1 game winning steak!!!!!!! I am thinking maybe Lake Forest can start playing a little better and maybe come out with a win at home! LF wins 24-17

Ripon at Beloit- Ripon great offense (tm) haha not last week!!!!! will come out with a big win at Beloit! Beloit is very young!  Ripon wins 35-7

IC at Carroll- Carroll will win big at home on there homecoming!! and the showdown will happen the following week when Norberts comes into town! This one is all Carroll 31-10!  Crocker for MVP- Hes 616 yards and 8 TD"S  in only 5 games.  Gould is a good tight end Bball and leads the team with catches.  Hamilton is a heck of saftey and my boy Winter is finally coming around and playing like a warrior!  I could keep going on and on, but Im sure you guys are all sick of me! But whatever I do what I want!

Game of the Week- St. Norberts at Monmouth

[CCAlum23]

Sorry I forgot to finish my Game of the Week Predictions!
Monmouth is a very tough team and will have the Home field advantage but for some reason St.Norberts may be too tough!  It all depends on how well Monmouth's D can stop Cody Craig and Judd O'Connell! 

I do think Alex Tanney is a very good QB for a Freshman and Monmouth has a real good kicker and decent Defense!  Basically its going to come down to who wants it more! Im gonna say Norberts wins 21-17!!! Gonna be close!!

[bball312]

ccalum23... chris im assuming, i understand your from carroll, and think they are the best team etc. However, gould may lead his team in catches, but i dont see his name in the top ten in catches for the conference, also I agree with hamilton. Kid is an absolute stud. No idea who winter is, havent ever hear of him, however, Crocker for MVP will almost be impossible to get. The reason why, Cody Craig. He may end up the qb of the best team in teh conference, and his number are already great so far. Crockers numbers are good, but compared to the running backs the past 2 years to lead this conference... they dont compare. (I mean Casey MEhan, and Dante Daniels. Not sure bout the spelling on both). I think most people will agree about the front runner for POY is Cody Craig. I think Cody will have an easier time against carroll's defense, tahn Crocker will with Norberts. Crocker struggled with Monmouth, and without a long run against ripon his numbers would have been around 3 yards a carry. (Granted they did wear down ripons run defense to get it)

[CCAlum23]

Bball- You are right my friend my name is Chris!  Now that you know who I am you should reveal who you are!

We have agreed on many things which makes me like you, but now on to the Cody Craig issue!  Cody Craig is a good QB and has great numbers as of right now!  17 td's and only 4 int's is great!  But Norberts hasnt really been challenged yet!  Norberts has a real tough stretch coming up with some really good defenses!!!!! Really GOOD!!!!!!!!! So lets wait 2 weeks and then we will have a better indication of where he will stand after playing Monmouth then Carroll!! (NOT TO MENTION THEY ARE BOTH AWAY GAMES!!!!!!) 

We did agree that Hamilton is a great player!  But how dont you know about Linebacker Jeremy Winter??  He was a first team all-conference pick last year and led the conference in sacks and tfl!!! He played awesome at Ripon and he will continue too!  I understand Gould isnt in the top 10 in receiving but if you look at the stats Carroll hasnt been passing much because many teams cant stop are run!!!

Any thoughts???

[Once a Pio always a Pio]

Hello All,

New 1st time poster on the site..... Impressed with the knowledgable Midwest Conference football Discussion on the blog.....

With that in mind it is obveous from the name that I am a Carroll fan with Alumni ties. With that in mind, I have a few comments

First- I know first hand that Hamilton is a tallented player.  Great speed and smart in coverage.... Sees the field well and is a constant return threat (not exactly Hester but he can bring it)

Second - I am excited to go up there this weekend for homecomming to see my first game based on how well the D-fense has played.  Linde and this sophmore Zeh have sounded impressive on the radio.

Third - The quarterback play has been outstanding but I also wonder how he will respond to a road environment against he best D-Fenses in the leauge.

Finally - new poster so new to the system, any and all comments appreciated 

[Once a Pio always a Pio]

Note to clarify:

The quarterback play I was refering to in my 3rd point was that of Codi Craig who has put up some impressive numbers

[Pat Coleman]

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[fightintitan2006]

my picks...

at Carroll 27, Illinois College 13 - IC cant run and certainly cant run on Carroll, so CC could pick off 5 or 6 passes, but they seem to lack the killer instinct, so this one looks closer than it is

Grinnell 45, at Knox 42 - Pios win a shootout

Lawrence 21 at Lake Forest 15 - Tough call here, the LU pass defense was atrocious for three weeks and then shutdown Jennings and IC.

Ripon 49, at Beloit  6 - Bucs young defense will be in trouble against Ripon's offense.

St. Norbert 36 at Monmouth 17 - I think Monmouth stays within a touchdown for three quarters, but things slip away late. St. Norbert isn't as dominant on the road and I would think Monmouth has too much pride to get embarrassed again like they did a year ago.