FB: Midwest Conference

MWCalum · October 26, 2008, 05:10:12 PM

HAHA ya thats not gonna happen.. sad to say it but Ripon's chances are pretty slim...

The option offense if run correctly cannot be stopped, much like any offense. the only difference is with the slot bone set up in a balanced way like it is.. Whatever a defense throws at a team it can be countered without changing anything. A huge problem with it is the players themselves, as they have to be EXTREMELY unselfish and alot of players dont want that. Players want stats and are about themselves more then winning. I have always been a fan of the option ever since I ran it all those years ago

and I still am a huge fan of teams that can have success with it, which is sadly a declining number. But Ripon showed yesterday that it can still be run successfully as they moved up and down the field at will on SNC's defense.. if it hadnt been for missed assignments and 4th down stand on the 3 it woulda been 21-7 at half at least but i guess that can be said for everygame. Ripon's defense showed why are they right there with monmouth at the top of the conference as they absolutley dominated the Knights offense... not even trying to be biased towards anyone.. the game was nowhere near as close as the score was.. sorry

Scots4 · October 26, 2008, 07:14:15 PM

Thats how I feel, not trying to be biased, but the RC-MC score should have not even been that close.

scottie · October 26, 2008, 10:04:23 PM

Speaking of our favorite team....

the Scots are now "#26" in the D3 poll. That is about par for the course, as the MWC champs the last few years usually get up to about #25 by the end of the regular season - typically if they are undefeated at the time. A couple more wins over a scrappy IC squad and a crappy Knox team, and the Scots might move up one more spot.

S N C O L D A D S A Y S G O S C O T S ! ! !

MWCalum · October 26, 2008, 10:40:34 PM

Quote from: Scots4 on October 26, 2008, 07:14:15 PM
Thats how I feel, not trying to be biased, but the RC-MC score should have not even been that close.

whys that? because of the yards? There was I think 3 times..? that Monmouth drove the length of the field and Ripons D stiffened up and held them to a fg. So that would create a large discrepancy in the yardage column which is decieving. Do you want to say that monmouth shot themselves in the foot? well so did ripon, like that fumble with around 5 or 6 mintues left which gave monmouth the chance to score. I mean the way Ripon was moving the ball in the 2nd half they would have been able to eat up a couple minutes and essentially put it away. I'm not trying to take anything away either team because it was one of the most well played d3 games i have seen in many years and MC just had one more play in their backpocket. im just saying dont take anythig away from a very good Ripon squad that gave your team all they could handle.

SNCOLDAD · October 26, 2008, 10:49:00 PM

scottie, who did they play for a non-conference game and what are they ranked? I am sure that can help also if it a tough opponent.

Pat Coleman · October 26, 2008, 10:50:38 PM

http://www.d3football.com/school/Monmouth/2008

scottie · October 26, 2008, 11:29:43 PM

Loras is in the "middle of the pack" in the IIAC. Their conference leader, Wartburg, is further down in the "others receiving votes."

I hope the Scots lace up their toe-stubb-free cleats for the Blueboys.

Scots4 · October 26, 2008, 11:38:27 PM

MWCAlum- I am not trying to take anything away from Ripon at all. I have just seen a lot of Monmouth football over the years, including this season, and many of the players did not play their best games. I really do not have any evidence to offer you up except my own personal opinion after watching the game.

MC17 · October 26, 2008, 11:57:43 PM

so we got the blueballs this week. They are a team that throws the rock but they are facing the number 2 team, before this week and this week couldnt have hurt, in the nation in passing efficiency. GOODLUCK!!! I cant wait to travel down to this game and watch how fast the Monmouth D looks on the turf. The IC QB has more touchdowns then tanney but on the other hand he prolly stays in later in the game then Tanney does since more than half of our games have been blowouts. I just want to see Tanney play this whole game and throw four 8 or 9 tuddys.

Like I said GOODLUCK, but no chance!

48-14 of course the Scots way

MWCfan787 · October 27, 2008, 12:48:43 AM

Quote from: MWCalum on October 26, 2008, 10:40:34 PM
Quote from: Scots4 on October 26, 2008, 07:14:15 PM
Thats how I feel, not trying to be biased, but the RC-MC score should have not even been that close.

whys that? because of the yards? There was I think 3 times..? that Monmouth drove the length of the field and Ripons D stiffened up and held them to a fg. So that would create a large discrepancy in the yardage column which is decieving. Do you want to say that monmouth shot themselves in the foot? well so did ripon, like that fumble with around 5 or 6 mintues left which gave monmouth the chance to score. I mean the way Ripon was moving the ball in the 2nd half they would have been able to eat up a couple minutes and essentially put it away. I'm not trying to take anything away either team because it was one of the most well played d3 games i have seen in many years and MC just had one more play in their backpocket. im just saying dont take anythig away from a very good Ripon squad that gave your team all they could handle.

Hate to tell you this and go against you because Ripon really impressed me....but,

Yardage columns are not decieving, scores are decieving...not yardage columns.

Game was close because Ripon won 1/3 of the game (special teams) by alot.

Monmouth only kicked 2 fg's and one was after a 15 yd drive.

Monmouth outgained Ripon 519-338 while outrushing them on fewer carries and ofcourse passing for more yards, and had 13 more first downs (31-18) and won the turnover battle 3-1. I would say Monmouth won the other 2/3 of the game.

If they played again in a conference championship game Monmouth wins by 2-3 scores with the game never being in doubt.

I think the Scots offense sort of misses #84 Kyle Wantland their leading receiver going into the SNC game who broke his arm early in that game. Hope he is ready by the time round 1 comes around so we can see that offense come full circle.

scottie · October 27, 2008, 09:24:35 AM

Quote from: MC17 on October 26, 2008, 11:57:43 PM
so we got the blueballs this week. They are a team that throws the rock but they are facing the number 2 team, before this week and this week couldnt have hurt, in the nation in passing efficiency. GOODLUCK!!! I cant wait to travel down to this game and watch how fast the Monmouth D looks on the turf. The IC QB has more touchdowns then tanney but on the other hand he prolly stays in later in the game then Tanney does since more than half of our games have been blowouts. I just want to see Tanney play this whole game and throw four 8 or 9 tuddys.

Like I said GOODLUCK, but no chance!

48-14 of course the Scots way

You and the other kiddos remember to be gracious in victory or defeat.

The Roop · October 27, 2008, 09:39:57 AM

Quote from: MWCfan787 on October 26, 2008, 02:24:57 PM
What?!?! Whitewater 8-2 vs. Ripon 8-2 = Ripon gets in???

Season is over in 2 weeks for the Redhawks

Not so fast. Remember that Whitewater played an NAIA team so they would have 1 less in region game and the same number of losses. So it would be 7-2 UW-W compared to 8-2 Ripon.

scottie · October 27, 2008, 10:04:36 AM

Roop: What are you smoking up in your deer stand these days? Your talking about defending champion UW-W vs. Ripon from the "never-had-more-than-one-bid" MWC. I have a pretty good hunch which way the selection committee would lean....Warhawks over Redhawks.

Besides, Ripon still has a feisty Grinnell and a hungry Lawrence waiting in the wings.

fightintitan2006 · October 27, 2008, 10:10:03 AM

Roop,

I don't think there is a chance in hell a 2-loss Whitewater team doesn't make the field. However, if a ton of other teams drop to two losses in the west and Oshkosh wins its final three games, then I would agree that Ripon could enter the at-large picture, but the odds are against that happening.

Probably never a better chance than this year for the MWC to get two teams in, if only Ripon hadnt come up a yard short against Oshkosh.

The Roop · October 27, 2008, 10:41:00 AM

Combined OWP/OOWP

UW-Whitewater 1.118
Ripon 1.080

Another UW-W loss makes this a dead heat and likely swings it to Ripons favor due to playing 1 more in region game. Is this likely to happen ?? Probably not but if in region play is the end all and be all of selection criteria, I think Ripon has a beef should they get left out at 8-2.