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scottie

D-Train:

See my comment near the top of the last page.  Monmouth's field is fine.  The potential issue is gate revenue.



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SNCOLDAD

Scots4, "The MWC getting respect..."

It is a shock in some ways.

But then they realized, Oh Yeah, Monmouth has to be good. They beat St. Norbert! At Home!!!


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MWCfan787

Quote from: Scots4 on October 29, 2008, 05:29:45 PM

Congrats Monmouth, you get to host the defending champion Warhawks.

Monmouth and Whitewater are both not losing the rest of the yr, and look at the remaining schedules of the top ten in the West region, when you play out the scenarios....at the end of the yr U-WW and Monmouth are gonna be just 1 or 2 spots apart in the final regional rankings with the two teams being in the #2-#4 range.

How does that translate to them playing each other? They are probably both getting home games.
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d-train

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Quote from: MWCfan787 on October 29, 2008, 06:41:08 PM
Quote from: Scots4 on October 29, 2008, 05:29:45 PM

Congrats Monmouth, you get to host the defending champion Warhawks.

Monmouth and Whitewater are both not losing the rest of the yr, and look at the remaining schedules of the top ten in the West region, when you play out the scenarios....at the end of the yr U-WW and Monmouth are gonna be just 1 or 2 spots apart in the final regional rankings with the two teams being in the #2-#4 range.

How does that translate to them playing each other? They are probably both getting home games.

What if UW-Stevens Point stays ahead of UW-Whitewater and/or the NCAA moves North Central into the "West" region? They aren't going to pair up the UW schools in the first round. They could easily put UW-Whitewater at Monmouth.

MWCfan787

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That's a legitimate "what if", but I don't see that happening.  I honestly think that U-WW just had a hiccup and that Stevens Point will actually lose to UW-EC and Whitewater will beat them for a second time and move ahead.  I also doubt North Central gets moved.  Willamette will be undefeated and is a legitimate #1 seed.

The road goes through U-WW in eventually, I just don't think right away.....I hope...there's alot of scenarios.

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d-train

Quote from: MWCfan787 on October 29, 2008, 06:53:30 PM
That's a legitimate "what if", but I don't see that happening.  I honestly think that U-WW just had a hiccup and that Stevens Point will actually lose to UW-EC and Whitewater will beat them for a second time and move ahead.  I also doubt North Central gets moved.  Willamette will be undefeated and is a legitimate #1 seed.

The road goes through U-WW in eventually, I just don't think right away.....I hope...there's alot of scenarios.



Even if Willamette is a legit #1, the committee might need to move one or two teams into the "West". NCC is a good fit in terms of geography, right? Even if they are moved to be a #2 - they are still catching a break versus being #2 in the "Mt. Union" bracket.

SNCOLDAD

I do believe it is wise to look for moves. Last year proved that even with a 1 seed. But the other item I think we have to consider is travel distance. That is a major concern to D3. I am not saying that they would have a 1 and 2 play each other the first round just because they are within a few miles. But I do believe that they would put a 2-4 pairing or a 3-5 pairing up against each other in the 1st round due to travel and distance.

It is very difficult to determine what they will do especially right now. But travel must be considered for a lot more than we generally look at it.
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d-train

Quote from: SNCOLDAD on October 29, 2008, 07:12:35 PM
I do believe it is wise to look for moves. Last year proved that even with a 1 seed. But the other item I think we have to consider is travel distance. That is a major concern to D3. I am not saying that they would have a 1 and 2 play each other the first round just because they are within a few miles. But I do believe that they would put a 2-4 pairing or a 3-5 pairing up against each other in the 1st round due to travel and distance.

It is very difficult to determine what they will do especially right now. But travel must be considered for a lot more than we generally look at it.


Right. You can count on the SCIAC champ traveling to Willamette unless the SCIAC runner-up manages a Pool C bid. Then that team would fly to Oregon and the champ (especially if it's Oxy) might host. How that plays out would clearly affect Monmouth (at least in terms of a first-round opponent). Whether the WIAC gets one or two bids and whether they move a team in makes a huge difference as well.

MWCfan787

Alot of scenarios.......so.......it'd be a little crazy for Whitewater fans  to book their hotel in Monmouth just yet.

My number one question:  Do you see a 9-1, WIAC champion, defending national champion going on the road in round 1?

I personally consider the likelihood of Monmouth not getting a home playoff game to be higher.
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Scots4

Quote from: MWCfan787 on October 29, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
Alot of scenarios.......so.......it'd be a little crazy for Whitewater fans  to book their hotel in Monmouth just yet.

My number one question:  Do you see a 9-1, WIAC champion, defending national champion going on the road in round 1?

I personally consider the likelihood of Monmouth not getting a home playoff game to be higher.

Not according to the voters of the West Region.
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fightintitan2006

Still way too many what-ifs to play out...in my thinking I am expecting UWSP to lose again. North Central getting moved is a legitimate possibility, but I wouldnt be shocked if they got upset by IWU or Augie to make that a moot point.

If Wilmette ends up as the #1 in the West, based on last year, the committee may treat them as such and send them someone from the Midwest instead of forcing them to play a better left coast team.
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tm343407

how many at-large bids usually come out of the Midwest or the West region?

The Roop

8 - # of Pool A's = the easy answer. However it's not that easy. It will depend on what region the UAA representative(s) come from and also the Pools B's. Not to mention teams getting moved out of region.

Quote from: scottie on October 29, 2008, 11:31:39 AM
Say it aint so, The Roop....  I don't know about the rest of you, but now I'm shaking in my boots!   :) ;) :D ;D

Beloit can't bring in too many ringers at once or people would ask questions. 4 game improvement this year, 4 game improvement next year = 9-1. Since they won't lose their non-conference game Mt. Monmouth should be safe until 2010. Provided they take care of the rest of the conference.

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scottie

Thanks for the warning, The Roop.  I think the other MWC presidents will be on a conference call soon to dramatically decrease their athletic budgets after 2010.  I mean, what would be the point??   ;D

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Quote from: OXY Oswald on October 29, 2008, 07:25:48 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on October 29, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
I suspect that two of them would be Principia and Lewis and Clark.....
Speaking of Principia, any thoughts on their big match up this week against their Conference leader, the Huntingdon Hawks?

SLIAC Schedule

Do they lose by more or less than L&C lost to Willamette (76-10 Final Score)?  Consider that L&C put the hurt on Principia (43-7 Final Score) in the first week of the season.

Look scottie. Huntingdon is even getting some love on the SCIAC board.
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