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WUPHF

Quote from: sflzman on October 28, 2010, 06:04:07 PM

WashU is in the UAA, which doesn't have enough teams to get an AQ, so they will get one of the 2-3 non-AQ bids reserved for independent schools.


Say what?  Are you sure about that?

sflzman

Quote from: WUH on October 29, 2010, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: sflzman on October 28, 2010, 06:04:07 PM

WashU is in the UAA, which doesn't have enough teams to get an AQ, so they will get one of the 2-3 non-AQ bids reserved for independent schools.


Say what?  Are you sure about that?

Yea. That's what I was told, but now you saying that has forced me to look at the UAA site, which clearly shows 8 teams - which is oblivously 'greater than or equal to' the 7 that is needed to get an AQ....

I don't know what that person was talking about - I apologize for any misinformation.....
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

Knight2Day

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 28, 2010, 11:25:59 PM
Yes, Millikin is the fourth team in the CCIW tourney, but to say they could 'easily' beat one of the big three is a stretch.  They are the 'best of the rest', but there appears to be a huge drop from Augie to them.

I was really hopeful that IWU had finally taken over the top spot in the conference (and have not totally abandoned hope that they still will), but Wheaton seems to have reasserted their accustomed dominance, handily defeating (in fact, dominating) both IWU and Augie in a week's time.  I wouldn't bet seriously against them winning another national title (though Messiah seems to be on another level lately).

I hope you don't think I meant that defeating any of those 3 would be "easy", just that any team on any given night can lose and it's not outside the realm of possibilities. On the subject of Wheaton, it's interesting to see how well they are doing especially in the national polls compared to Calvin. Calvin showed in beating the Thunder earlier this season that they can play with anybody, it's just a matter of which team shows up, the one who beats Wheaton, or the one who out shoots K-zoo 14-7 and loses 1-0.

On a different subject, I have to say, and this will probably ruffle feathers, Calvin is still the standard of the MIAA on the women's side despite losing the conference to Alma this year. Calvin outplayed every one of their opponents (thoroughly handling Alma itself), it was just a matter of being efficient on the multiple opportunities given to them, something I think they will be doing a better job of in the conference tourny after watching their last few games.

WUPHF

Quote from: sflzman on October 29, 2010, 09:49:37 AM
I don't know what that person was talking about - I apologize for any misinformation.....

No worries.  Washington University trails Chicago by one point in the standings with a few teams behind by two.  The Bears play the Maroons in the last game of the season.  It could come down to the very end.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: sflzman on October 29, 2010, 09:49:37 AM
Quote from: WUH on October 29, 2010, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: sflzman on October 28, 2010, 06:04:07 PM

WashU is in the UAA, which doesn't have enough teams to get an AQ, so they will get one of the 2-3 non-AQ bids reserved for independent schools.


Say what?  Are you sure about that?

Yea. That's what I was told, but now you saying that has forced me to look at the UAA site, which clearly shows 8 teams - which is oblivously 'greater than or equal to' the 7 that is needed to get an AQ....

I don't know what that person was talking about - I apologize for any misinformation.....

You were probably talking to a football fan - the UAA does not have an AQ in football.

sflzman

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on October 29, 2010, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: sflzman on October 29, 2010, 09:49:37 AM
Quote from: WUH on October 29, 2010, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: sflzman on October 28, 2010, 06:04:07 PM

WashU is in the UAA, which doesn't have enough teams to get an AQ, so they will get one of the 2-3 non-AQ bids reserved for independent schools.


Say what?  Are you sure about that?

Yea. That's what I was told, but now you saying that has forced me to look at the UAA site, which clearly shows 8 teams - which is oblivously 'greater than or equal to' the 7 that is needed to get an AQ....

I don't know what that person was talking about - I apologize for any misinformation.....

You were probably talking to a football fan - the UAA does not have an AQ in football.

Maybe....but it was at the Albion/Alma soccer game the other day in the brutal win because at that point it was clear we would win and we were talking about the chance of the MIAA getting two teams....

I continue to hope that the selection commitee will give the MIAA more respect with the Sectional Championship appearance by Calvin, but I just don't think we'll get there....
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

DIIIdad

Quote from: Knight2Day on October 29, 2010, 11:15:29 AM

On the subject of Wheaton, it's interesting to see how well they are doing especially in the national polls compared to Calvin. Calvin showed in beating the Thunder earlier this season that they can play with anybody, it's just a matter of which team shows up, the one who beats Wheaton, or the one who out shoots K-zoo 14-7 and loses 1-0. 

Having seen Wheaton play several times this year, early on and of late, I can safely say that they certainly figured "it" out as the season progressed. 

I have seen Augie play Kzoo, Calvin, Loras, Wheaton and Illinois Wesleyan this year.  IWU, Wheaton, Loras and Augie are all in the top 8 in this site's top 25 poll, but Wheaton is clearly the cream of this crop as of right now.  Augie only gave up 8 goals all season, and 4 of those were to Wheaton in one game.  I'm not saying they're unbeatable, but I wouldn't want to play them in the NCAA's. 

sflzman

Semi-Final games tomorrow at 3:00....

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Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

sflzman

Calvin @ Alma for the big show on Saturday!
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

Knight2Day

Quote from: sflzman on November 02, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
Calvin @ Alma for the big show on Saturday!

Have to say after being at that game, Calvin is still the standard of the league. Despite what the Alma Sports Info website says, Calvin was in the offensive end of the field for all but maybe 5 minutes of the game and probably should have won it 5-0.

sflzman

Quote from: Knight2Day on November 07, 2010, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: sflzman on November 02, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
Calvin @ Alma for the big show on Saturday!

Have to say after being at that game, Calvin is still the standard of the league. Despite what the Alma Sports Info website says, Calvin was in the offensive end of the field for all but maybe 5 minutes of the game and probably should have won it 5-0.

Actually - being at that game - Calvin controlled the first half, but when Alma came out in the 2nd half Calvin couldn't do annything against them. The Scots scored the early goal, and then got a PK.

If the PK had gone in, it definately would have been a different ending. When Reising missed the PK (she topped the ball) it just deflated the energy from the strong second half start. Had the shot gone in, it would have been a 3-2 Calvin lead, 35 minutes left, and ALL the momentum for the Scots...

You could also tell the Scots were missing their two senior leaders who were out with injuries - one of which injured her knee one goal short of tying the Alma All-time goal-scoring record. In the first half, the Scots had two situations where they had wide-open attacking opportunities, but one our stud Freshman, Taryn Handyside shot too high, and the other, Jr. Alli Meurer had an open lane, but passed instead of shot and we ended up getting the ball cleared out by Calvin. Either one of those could have been a goal with Swan their (who usually started for Meurer) instead.

The other senior definately could have shut down Prins, who is an amazing player btw...
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

Knight2Day

Quote from: sflzman on November 07, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: Knight2Day on November 07, 2010, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: sflzman on November 02, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
Calvin @ Alma for the big show on Saturday!

Have to say after being at that game, Calvin is still the standard of the league. Despite what the Alma Sports Info website says, Calvin was in the offensive end of the field for all but maybe 5 minutes of the game and probably should have won it 5-0.

Actually - being at that game - Calvin controlled the first half, but when Alma came out in the 2nd half Calvin couldn't do annything against them. The Scots scored the early goal, and then got a PK.

If the PK had gone in, it definately would have been a different ending. When Reising missed the PK (she topped the ball) it just deflated the energy from the strong second half start. Had the shot gone in, it would have been a 3-2 Calvin lead, 35 minutes left, and ALL the momentum for the Scots...

You could also tell the Scots were missing their two senior leaders who were out with injuries - one of which injured her knee one goal short of tying the Alma All-time goal-scoring record. In the first half, the Scots had two situations where they had wide-open attacking opportunities, but one our stud Freshman, Taryn Handyside shot too high, and the other, Jr. Alli Meurer had an open lane, but passed instead of shot and we ended up getting the ball cleared out by Calvin. Either one of those could have been a goal with Swan their (who usually started for Meurer) instead.

The other senior definately could have shut down Prins, who is an amazing player btw...

I have to completely disagree with you. The PK was the result of poor officiating and there was no swing in momentum (in basketball terms, 'ball doesn't lie'). The Knights could have scored another 3 goals during that game if you want to talk about scoring opportunities, and unless you were watching a different game, there wasn't a player in the same area code who was going to stop Prins, let alone at that game. You're entitled to your opinion but we must have been watching two very different games if you think that Alma was competing with Calvin in that game. But I guess that's why they play the game instead of letting people like us talk, to prove which team is truly better.

sflzman

Quote from: Knight2Day on November 07, 2010, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: sflzman on November 07, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: Knight2Day on November 07, 2010, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: sflzman on November 02, 2010, 08:55:18 PM
Calvin @ Alma for the big show on Saturday!

Have to say after being at that game, Calvin is still the standard of the league. Despite what the Alma Sports Info website says, Calvin was in the offensive end of the field for all but maybe 5 minutes of the game and probably should have won it 5-0.

Actually - being at that game - Calvin controlled the first half, but when Alma came out in the 2nd half Calvin couldn't do annything against them. The Scots scored the early goal, and then got a PK.

If the PK had gone in, it definately would have been a different ending. When Reising missed the PK (she topped the ball) it just deflated the energy from the strong second half start. Had the shot gone in, it would have been a 3-2 Calvin lead, 35 minutes left, and ALL the momentum for the Scots...

You could also tell the Scots were missing their two senior leaders who were out with injuries - one of which injured her knee one goal short of tying the Alma All-time goal-scoring record. In the first half, the Scots had two situations where they had wide-open attacking opportunities, but one our stud Freshman, Taryn Handyside shot too high, and the other, Jr. Alli Meurer had an open lane, but passed instead of shot and we ended up getting the ball cleared out by Calvin. Either one of those could have been a goal with Swan their (who usually started for Meurer) instead.

The other senior definately could have shut down Prins, who is an amazing player btw...

I have to completely disagree with you. The PK was the result of poor officiating and there was no swing in momentum (in basketball terms, 'ball doesn't lie'). The Knights could have scored another 3 goals during that game if you want to talk about scoring opportunities, and unless you were watching a different game, there wasn't a player in the same area code who was going to stop Prins, let alone at that game. You're entitled to your opinion but we must have been watching two very different games if you think that Alma was competing with Calvin in that game. But I guess that's why they play the game instead of letting people like us talk, to prove which team is truly better.

Yes you're true about that.

Prins could not be "shut down", that was a bad choice of words, slowed down, would have been better. The PK was bad officiating, but to that point in the 2nd half the game was being played in the mid to Alma attacking thirds....
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

sflzman

But, either way it doesn't matter, either team had to "win to get in" anyways, because two teams below Alma in the Central got AQs, and 1 team (I believe on the East Coast) got an AQ with a record of 4-14-3....

The Central has to get 9 teams if Alma and Calvin plan on being in the NCAAs together....
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

sflzman

Sad to see a 1-0 Calvin loss, at least the men are pulling through! Up 2-0 80+ minute
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare