FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[willierobin]

Marty vs Pedro is one-sided (50-16, 50-17 and 46-21) in favor of HSC. Macon has improved, but not enough. I say both teams score what they average for the season and HSC wins 38-28.

[rip08]

LAST TEN MEETINGS BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS

1997 R-MC, 49-18
1998 R-MC, 45-42
1999 R-MC, 33-7
2000 R-MC, 26-17
2001 H-SC, 38-26
2002 H-SC, 7-0
2003 H-SC, 53-21
2004 H-SC, 50-16
2005 H-SC, 50-17
2006 H-SC, 46-21

All time total is 57-44-11 in favor of HSC.  Jackets are due to break thru this year!!  Go RMC!!

[Jacketlawyer]

Another visitor here from the CCIW board.  As a former Wheaton teammate of Pedro Arruza and a current resident of Virginia, with apologies to my many HSC friends I have to say go Jackets! 

Kudos to RMC for giving Pedro time to put his stamp on the program.  Rome wasn't built in a day, but I hope you all realize you have a great coach there, and an even better person.

Thanks for this post.  I'm glad to see the Arruza's hard work paying off.  I had my doubts going into this season, but have been happily, and thoroughly, proved wrong. 8)

With NO apologies to my H-S friends (and I have a few), however, I also say, "GO JACKETS!" 

[algernon]

LAST TEN MEETINGS BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS

1997 R-MC, 49-18
1998 R-MC, 45-42
1999 R-MC, 33-7
2000 R-MC, 26-17
2001 H-SC, 38-26
2002 H-SC, 7-0
2003 H-SC, 53-21
2004 H-SC, 50-16
2005 H-SC, 50-17
2006 H-SC, 46-21

All time total is 57-44-11 in favor of HSC.  Jackets are due to break thru this year!!  Go RMC!!

Thanks for the scores on the last 10 meetings.  The first 3 games (1997, 1998, and 1999) were played by the Tigers under the leadership of their all-time losingest coach (Phil Culicerto, whose record at HSC was 4-26).

The Tigers lost to the Yellow Jackets in Marty Favret's first year as coach (2000) but have won 6 in a row since then.

Coach Favret's record at HSC is now 53-26.  If you exclude his first two years with the Tigers as a turnaround period, his record over the past 6 years is 44-15.

Among Hampden-Sydney coaches, Favret is currently:

• 4th in Most Wins, after Stokeley Fulton, 143, Charles Bernier, 68, and Joe Bush, 61
• 2nd in Win Percentage (.671) among those who coached 5+ years, after Jim Hickey (27-11-4 = .690)

[hasanova]

LAST TEN MEETINGS BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS

1997 R-MC, 49-18
1998 R-MC, 45-42
1999 R-MC, 33-7
2000 R-MC, 26-17
2001 H-SC, 38-26
2002 H-SC, 7-0
2003 H-SC, 53-21
2004 H-SC, 50-16
2005 H-SC, 50-17
2006 H-SC, 46-21

All time total is 57-44-11 in favor of HSC.  Jackets are due to break thru this year!!  Go RMC!!

One source I checked said RMC won the first game in 1893 (1-0 series lead) and then has never led the series after that.  Once you get 13 games down as they are now, it's difficult to get the lead back unless you're willing to wait another 50 years or so.  Let's face it, a 14-game win streak by the Jackets would be a bit improbable. 

[Jacketlawyer]

LAST TEN MEETINGS BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS

1997 R-MC, 49-18
1998 R-MC, 45-42
1999 R-MC, 33-7
2000 R-MC, 26-17
2001 H-SC, 38-26
2002 H-SC, 7-0
2003 H-SC, 53-21
2004 H-SC, 50-16
2005 H-SC, 50-17
2006 H-SC, 46-21

All time total is 57-44-11 in favor of HSC.  Jackets are due to break thru this year!!  Go RMC!!

One source I checked said RMC won the first game in 1893 (1-0 series lead) and then has never led the series after that.  Once you get 13 games down as they are now, it's difficult to get the lead back unless you're willing to wait another 50 years or so.  Let's face it, a 14-game win streak by the Jackets would be a bit improbable. 

Yep, I know.  We ate away at the series for while when Culicerto was the Tiger coach.  Then Marty put the stopper in.  I know we'd like to snap the losing streak this year.  I can guarantee you nobody's taking this contest lightly. 

Can't wait!

[thunderdog]

I also wanted to ask...

Any chance that the loser of the R-MC vs. H-SC gets a pool C bid???

[allsky7]

Anyone know of a site that lists the locations and final scores of THE GAME? 112 meetings so far. Interested to see if home field advantage has historically been a factor.

    marc.....not sure how this stacks up overall but I know there was a period of 6-8 years at one point where the home team lost. I'll go back and double check it when I get time. That info is on the H-S web site.

[allsky7]

I also wanted to ask...

Any chance that the loser of the R-MC vs. H-SC gets a pool C bid???

Slim and none

[billt101]

Marty vs Pedro is one-sided (50-16, 50-17 and 46-21) in favor of HSC. Macon has improved, but not enough. I say both teams score what they average for the season and HSC wins 38-28.

You could say that about every ODAC coach vs Pedro before this year.

[marc]

    marc.....not sure how this stacks up overall but I know there was a period of 6-8 years at one point where the home team lost. I'll go back and double check it when I get time. That info is on the H-S web site.
[/quote]

Thanks,

I looked at the link and saw the seasons back to 1981. It doesnt list home team but that can be figured by counting back from this years host. Seems to have alot to do with the strength of the team that given year. But thats even hard to tell without Macons W/L record to compare. Anyway it should be a great game no matter where its played. Weather report looks good.  

Go Tigers! BEAT MACON!

[Jacketlawyer]

    marc.....not sure how this stacks up overall but I know there was a period of 6-8 years at one point where the home team lost. I'll go back and double check it when I get time. That info is on the H-S web site.

Odd years are at R-M, the evens at Death Valley.

GO MACON.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

IMO, why Macon has been so successful; they take care of the ball, and they have a bend but don't break defense.

Zak Thornton has touched the ball 319 times so far this season, and has coughed it up only twice. That's pretty darn good (and lucky).

If you look at the stats, they are very one dimensional. But nationally, not even that impressive.

They are 45th (out of 231) in rushing offense and 193rd in passing offense. But being ranked 27th in turnover margin is the key.

And defensively, sure, they're 32nd in points allowed, but they still give up 317 yards a game (81st, nationally).

Although five of their eight wins were by 12 points or less, they haven't had an opponent score more than 25 on them all year. And seven of their nine opponents didn't score more than 17.

They've played in a lot of close games, which certainly helps them. But it will be interesting to see against H-SC (or even a playoff game or two) how well  the Jackets play if/when they get down by a couple scores. Only three times have they been losing during a game by a touchdown (twice against Frostburg, once against Hopkins). Never have they been down by more than that.

I think that Sydney will get up by a couple scores and R-MC won't be able to counter it. R-MC hasn't faced this creative of a team all year. The best offenses they have faced -- Guilford and Bridgewater -- are also very one dimensional teams, so it was easier to prepare for. H-SC, however, will throw a lot of different looks at them.

My prediction; H-SC 31, R-MC 20

[willierobin]

Marty vs Pedro is one-sided (50-16, 50-17 and 46-21) in favor of HSC. Macon has improved, but not enough. I say both teams score what they average for the season and HSC wins 38-28.

You could say that about every ODAC coach vs Pedro before this year.

Not really. Macon was 1-2 vs Catholic, Guilford and Emory during Pedro's first 3 years and played Bridgewater tough twice (19-16 in '04 and 35-26 last year). Only W&L and HSC have dominated them the last 3 years.

[allsky7]

IMO, why Macon has been so successful; they take care of the ball, and they have a bend but don't break defense.

Zak Thornton has touched the ball 319 times so far this season, and has coughed it up only twice. That's pretty darn good (and lucky).

If you look at the stats, they are very one dimensional. But nationally, not even that impressive.

They are 45th (out of 231) in rushing offense and 193rd in passing offense. But being ranked 27th in turnover margin is the key.

And defensively, sure, they're 32nd in points allowed, but they still give up 317 yards a game (81st, nationally).

Although five of their eight wins were by 12 points or less, they haven't had an opponent score more than 25 on them all year. And seven of their nine opponents didn't score more than 17.

They've played in a lot of close games, which certainly helps them. But it will be interesting to see against H-SC (or even a playoff game or two) how well  the Jackets play if/when they get down by a couple scores. Only three times have they been losing during a game by a touchdown (twice against Frostburg, once against Hopkins). Never have they been down by more than that.

I think that Sydney will get up by a couple scores and R-MC won't be able to counter it. R-MC hasn't faced this creative of a team all year. The best offenses they have faced -- Guilford and Bridgewater -- are also very one dimensional teams, so it was easier to prepare for. H-SC, however, will throw a lot of different looks at them.

My prediction; H-SC 31, R-MC 20

H-S 41
R-M 31

     I agree kid. The Tigers can beat you in many ways. I have said all year that this is the most balanced Tiger team in quite a few years. Perhaps since the 1977 playoff team. Macon may score some points but barring TO's, they will not be able to stop the Tigers from scoring. Then again...it is Randolph-Macon/Hampden-Sydney.....forget everything I just said!!