FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[Rugby Guy]

Now it's time to rant...

Those a-holes from the Sherriffs office at the BC tailgate area were two of the most unprofessional people I have ever met in my entire life.  I haven't seen such an abuse of power by the police in my life, and it was pathetic.  Those that saw it know exactly what I'm talking about.  If you didn't see it or hear me b--tching about it afterward, it really is a good story.  In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have laughed at the cop when he threatened to arrest me, but I would have loved to see the judge when the officer tried to explain to him why I was arrested for having WATER outside the tailgate area.  Both cops were just arses and on a power trip.  Hopefully the letter I mailed to their superiors when I got back today will stay in their file. 

Jerks.

[Old Coach]

One final question of ignorance...

What's the rule on kick catching interference?  If a member of the kick returning team pushes a defender into the kick returner, is there a foul on the play? How do the refs determine how many penalty yards to add on (such as the 23 yard penalty today)?

The problem on that particular play was that even though there was contact on the "gunner"/kick cover man, he still reached out and pulled the right arm of the returner just prior to him catching the ball.  This interference with the returner's opportunity to catch resulted in the penalty.  Had the gunner been able to wait a split second all would have been well.  As disappointing as it was, the call was correct.

[Llamaguy]

I too agree it was a judgement call and think the correct one was made. I also must say that this is one HSC/BC tussle that the officiating didn't play apart in. Well called game. The only hand they had in this game was that they were spotting the ball and starting the clock 25 second clock very quickly. It affected both sides ability to audible, but was equally shared between both teams.

[mizzou_mafia]

I was right in front of the punt return that I mentioned, and I can imagine it was a tough call for the refs to make, as it was difficult for me to tell exactly who initiated the contact.  The only thing that confused me was a 23 yard penalty showing up in the stat-line.  Religion major may have covered that already.

[patcummings]

As for E&H's lowly performance to start the season...

Their situation could remind me of Del Val's under G.A. Mangus in his first season as coach.  They were terrible, 2-8.  But once the philosophy took root and he could bring his own players in...9-2, 12-1, 5-0 to start this year...

[Hug]

I'd love to hear from Favret about the two missed fourth down tries. Inside the other team's territory, I say go for it! But not inside your own 40 yard line.

I've got two theories:
A. As miz stated

Faveret's ego gets in the way of him being a good coach.

He honestly thought there was a 95% chance they would come up with the first down. A HUGE slap in the face to our defense. But, had they gotten the first downs, would have sent a message to BC that  "you will not stop us AT ALL"

B. As Coach Clark stated in his post game radio interview, "It wasn't about giving up yards, it was about stopping them from scoring."
Maybe Favret figured BC would move the ball back into HSC territory no mattter where the ball was given to them. Then it would be up to his Defense to stop them.

Again, I'd love to hear his post game comments abou this,  if anyone can find them.

[Bmore BC]

Not only does BC have the best team in the ODAC but they also have the best play calling announcers. It is very difficult to listen to the game when after the play and the announcers are done cheering they tell you what happened. HSC announcers think their coach is the savior the way they talk about him. He simply got carried away with his PS2 Madden play calling on 4th down in their own territory. That is not being aggressive, that is what loses or in this case helped lose the game. I was not surprised BC defense played the way they did. I was suprised that HSC contained BC offense. It seemed like that was because BC QB was a little rattled in the first half and could not complete passes to open recievers. Once the qb got settled down seemed like everything would be fine. Akward definately shows up against HSC. Someone mention before the game not to worry about HSC redzone tunronvers. Well that definately contributed to the lost. As 95% knew before the game who the better team was, Im glad that was shown on the field. HSC is just one of the participants in the BCAC. Whats Good StickyFingers!

[bcsportswriter]

Rugbyguy-  I guess I would have to agree.  Being arrested for asking an officer for a business card and then asking the security guard how to get my friend from jail usually arent good reasons for arrest. 

As for the game....Someones gotta get me a film. I need to see the move Awkard made.  Looking at the play-by-play online, I couldnt imagine going for it on 4th down from your own 30.  That doesnt make sense.

[CBE]

Great job Eagles.  All three phases came through.  The O moved and scored when you had to, D made the stops and got the big turnover, and special teams produced with 3 FG's, coverage and a HUGE return when needed!   That's what champions do.  Enjoy the week off and keep the focus and intensity the rest of the way.  No letting up!

Side question:  Was anyone out there able to listen to the game from the BC link?  I had to listen on HSC's station.

[cnusfinest54]

I would like to raise this question. Why should HSC get a crack at the post season. Who have they beaten in the last 5 years that gives them the right to have a shot at the NC. The only good teams I can remember them playing in the last few years is Bwater, who beats them every year and John Hopkins and they have lost to both of them. Not to mention with a very weak schedule a few below average teams have also come very close to beating them. Yeah HSC has a very good offense but the fact still reamains is that their defense cannot win them any games against playoff caliber teams and everyone in D3 knows that if they think they are going to put 40 and 50 plus on playoff teams week in and week out in Nov. and Dec. then they are  dreaming.

[Outsider14]

my guess as to why the BC audio link didn't work is that even though they got a new host (broadcastmonsters or whatever), they were still using the bridgewater.edu server, which went down when (my assumption) too many people tried to get the audio.

[skoaltrain]

I'm sitting here in the living room of my home watching the Bridgewater vs. HSC game on TV.  WDRL is running the replay on the Local UPN channel.  I had no idea....since I never saw a single play yesterday this is the next best thing.

It's now in the 4th quarter with HSC starting their last scoring drive.....This is almost as exciting as listening to it on the radio. 

[Llamaguy]

I would like to raise this question. Why should HSC get a crack at the post season. Who have they beaten in the last 5 years that gives them the right to have a shot at the NC. The only good teams I can remember them playing in the last few years is Bwater, who beats them every year and John Hopkins and they have lost to both of them. Not to mention with a very weak schedule a few below average teams have also come very close to beating them. Yeah HSC has a very good offense but the fact still reamains is that their defense cannot win them any games against playoff caliber teams and everyone in D3 knows that if they think they are going to put 40 and 50 plus on playoff teams week in and week out in Nov. and Dec. then they are  dreaming.

Its called the crooked view of the NCAA selection committee. With Conference champions getting automatic bids, its not the top 32 teams who get into the playoffs. It all comes down to win-loss record. I agree the schedule is not strong but a win over JHU at home and finishing 9-1 will warrent consideration. If you are refering to the comparison with CNU then you guys better win the conference. A three loss record for CNU vs. 9-1 HSC has always lead the committee to go the way of the 1 loss team unless the conference had no success in the playoffs. Now if its down to HSC and Ferrem with 1 loss vying for an atlarge I think Ferrem would get it hands down. The extra 4 spots should help but it still could get hairy at the finishline.

As has been discussed in years past, a tough schedule prepares you great for the playoffs, but you still have to win enough of those games to get in each year.

[cnusfinest54]

I understand your post Llama and my concern is not with the Captains getting an at large bid. All I am saying is for 5 years HSC has been saying that they deserve a shot at the playoffs, that they are a playoff caliber team, and so on and so on. All I am saying is that 9-1 or 8-2 or not what has HSC done to show the playoff commite that they are deserving.

[Llamaguy]

I understand your post Llama and my concern is not with the Captains getting an at large bid. All I am saying is for 5 years HSC has been saying that they deserve a shot at the playoffs, that they are a playoff caliber team, and so on and so on. All I am saying is that 9-1 or 8-2 or not what has HSC done to show the playoff commite that they are deserving.

10-4 Read you loud and clear Finest! Again I do not necessarily agree with why the committee does what it does, but the won-loss records have weighed heavy on their minds in the past, regardless of schedule in most cases.