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Matt Barnhart (kid)

Shoot, forget the coaches and SIDs ... let's leave the ODAC Offensive POTY decision up the fans! :)


Previous Poll:

What was the most impressive individual performance this past weekend?

Keith Ricca (CUA QB) passing for 488 yards and 5 TDs - 5 (16.1%)
Nick Bublavi (CUA WR) hauling in 386 receiving yards and 3 TDs - 17 (54.8%)
Marcus Washington (BC RB) scoring 2 rushing TDs, 2 receiving TDs, and 1 passing TD - 5 (16.1%)
Greg Tweardy (W&L QB) completing 29-of-38 passes (76%) - 3 (9.7%)
Eric Dardozzi (RMC CB) intercepting E&H's Todd Woods twice, helping hold last year's All-ODAC 1st Team QB to only 67 yards passing - 1 (3.2%)
 
Total Votes: 31
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cnu85

Quote from: skoaltrain on October 17, 2005, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: muchacho on October 17, 2005, 11:21:24 AM
KID...Apples and Oranges?

Don't forget the Grapes!  Preferably stomped and fermented.

Skoaltrain is obviously talking about Mogen David 20 20!!

cuaplayer

There are two different considerations.

1. ODAC Player of the year
I think this has to go to a guy who's team had success and who did the most to contribute to that success.  Gotta ask who's wining and why are they winning. Didn't go to the HSC game but from all the talk on the board Awkward was the key to the HSC win. Any votes for him?

2. Best player
This is an entirely different argument. Now you have to ask yourself who the most unstoppable player in the conference is. I can't fairly say anything about Washington here. I've only seen him against Catholic, and the year I saw him we had zero players who ran under 5.0 on defense. It looked like he was NFL ready.

I've watched Bublavi do things that I've never seen before. Its fair to say that I remember getting beat about 5 times back at the good ole years around the turn of the century(not counting practice against Hunter, but he cheated), Bublavi beat me about that many times the first day he showed up. So I ask myself is he as good as the other two All American receivers out of Catholic. Honest answer is maybe. The other two guys were great and its too hard to compare, but he is at least that good.

I've watched him go against triple teams for an entire season(2003). I'm talking about him split out alone to the wide side of the field and 3 people standing there guarding air looking scared. I wish I was making this up. He still had great games against those kind of coverages. Not to mention he opens the offense up alot because if you cover him one and one he's gonna score 40 by himself. Been watching as a fan this year so I haven't been paying too much attention to the coverages, but I assume he's at least getting doubled alot.

It'd be interesting to hear BC guys elaborate more on what Washington brings to the table besides having to look up stats.

Outsider14

what does he bring to the table? every time he touches the ball he can score, anywhere on the field. that's tough to beat. now, bublavi is real good; he probably would have gotten my vote for potw (you see 5TDs almost every week by somebody, but how often do you see 386 receiving yards?). but--and i've only ever seen him play once that i remember--he didn't seem like a threat to score if he had the ball on his own 5 yard line. he reminds me kind of like a larry fitzgerald (whom i actually just met yesterday--HUGE hands, no wonder he catches everything). bublavi can go up and get the ball w/ the best of them, but, i don't see him shifting and moving like some of bc's athletes.
"99% ain't good enough"

muleman

Note to those reading posts:

Cuaplayer and Hunter (WR, CUA) played in the early 80's...then continued in the mid to late 90's.....


Furthermore...cuaplayer is 52 years of age...

cuaplayer

The kid is deceptively fast. I think thats part of how he beats some of the db's he plays. They don't realize how fast he is. As far as being shifty, he probably could be but he usually just runs through tackles. This is going to bring out the hate from the BC crowd but in that Shriner's bowl game you guys tried covering him with one guy and it went real bad. Unfurtanately our qb's strengtht was not his accuracy.

cuaplayer

Muleman,

The RMC kicker who had a one bar mask, one tennis shoe and one cleat on, and shocks for shoulder pads who walked you in the open field wanted me to say hello.

skoaltrain

Quote from: cnu85 on October 17, 2005, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: skoaltrain on October 17, 2005, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: muchacho on October 17, 2005, 11:21:24 AM
KID...Apples and Oranges?

Don't forget the Grapes!  Preferably stomped and fermented.

Skoaltrain is obviously talking about Mogen David 20 20!!

Nothing but the best!!!!  Screw-off Tops too and assorted flavors!!

muchacho

I will agree that Marcus Washington has a great ability to score from anywhere on the field, and has a much more impressive history as a return man. However, Bublavi can score on almost any play as well.
Of his 11 touchdowns the yardage has been...5,5,12,13,20,22,23,40,53,77,88.
Two receptions over 75 yards tells me that he is always a threat to score, and he has also had atleast 3 long touchdowns this year called back on penalties that didn't effect the play.
Its probably stupid to argue about Washington and Bublavi, because both are amazing players, and would be stars on any team in D3.

Llamaguy

Wether anyone likes it or not the people that vote will look a stats primarily. They will also consider record which shouldn't really matter. My prediction would be: (and I am from BC) Marcus Washington wins as long as BC beats W&L and he keeps his yrds per average where its at right now. If a kid is talented enough to do that many things well on the football field, it will get noticed. just my 1 1/2 cents worth

Kid,
You may want to add a yrds per rush, pass, return, etc to each category of your table. I think that will open eyes and allow for an apples to apples compairson in each player's strong suit. ;)
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muchacho

Bublavi had 8 receptions for 188 and 2 TDs against W&L, and 13 receptions for 171 and 3 TDs against RMC, who are the 2 best passing defenses in the ODAC.
In the next 4 games against the bottom 4 teams in the ODAC in pass defense, Bublavi needs just 266 yards and 6 touchdowns to become #1 on Catholic's all time receiving list. Jeff Clay owns the records already on the books, and he is 55 catches ahead of Bublavi as well. That record will probably stay, but the other 2 easily attainable for Nick.
Bublavi is also already #1 in ODAC history in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns, and is third in receptions. He is also #5 in scoring and #4 in touchdowns.

Anybody know what Marcus Washington's totals are looking like as his career winds down?

Llamaguy

Just read the play-by-play of the W&L / HSC game. I take back my comment that Favret went for it on 4th down out of desperation to beat BC. I see he went for it twice on 4th and 1 in the first quarter against W&L, once from the HSC 25 yrd line, and once from the HSC 33. They converted both but man thats an aggressive coaching style early in games.

As for the rest of the game, it looked like "groundhog day" relived:


  • HSC scored with 3 minutes and change to take the lead.
  • Kick-off to the 1 yrd line, but returned 49 yrds to midfield. Remind you of a Phil Carter return?
  • On 4th and 2 with 0:34 on the clock at the HSC 29 yrd line, Tweardy hits Colton Ward for the 29 yrd go ahead score.
Man the HSC fans had to know what could be coming as the exact same sequence was played out at home just two weeks before. Wow!
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religion_major

I can see that I set kid off.   ;D  All I was saying was that my argument about defenses could be used to apply a qualifier to Bublavi's stats just like the BC weapons argument is used with Marcus Washington.   ;D

Llamaguy

Quote from: muchacho on October 17, 2005, 02:26:22 PM
Bublavi had 8 receptions for 188 and 2 TDs against W&L, and 13 receptions for 171 and 3 TDs against RMC, who are the 2 best passing defenses in the ODAC.
In the next 4 games against the bottom 4 teams in the ODAC in pass defense, Bublavi needs just 266 yards and 6 touchdowns to become #1 on Catholic's all time receiving list. Jeff Clay owns the records already on the books, and he is 55 catches ahead of Bublavi as well. That record will probably stay, but the other 2 easily attainable for Nick.
Bublavi is also already #1 in ODAC history in receiving yards and receiving touchdowns, and is third in receptions. He is also #5 in scoring and #4 in touchdowns.

Anybody know what Marcus Washington's totals are looking like as his career winds down?


I dunno but I'm sure Kid is working on it. I do know that the career numbers won't stack up to Bublavi's for 2 reasons though:

  • 1) Freshman don't play at BC, although Marcus did get some touches but Langley came in more ready for college ball at that point. Marcus put on 30lbs of muscle since arriving at BC.
  • 2) Marcus didn't play the last half of last year due to an ankle sprain at Guilford.
I'm sure Kid would add, splitting carries with Young but that would further cloud the waters.
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