FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[algernon]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

[CMR]

Just got back from RMC/Methodist game. Let me just say that RMC is a very good Team. There offense is really good but they need to shore up the defense. Methodist drop several TD passes in the first half. One was clearly pass interference but was not call. They also had one TD call back for holding which also was a bad call by the ref. The defense was line up in the neutral zone. As soon as the ball was snapped the ref threw the flag and somehow how they call a hold. Second half both teams play better defense but every time Methodist was moving the ball or had a big play the refs would throw a flag. Home field advantage I guess! I know everyone always complains about the reps but these guys control the outcome. D3 football teams and players play for the love of the game and the refs need to let the kids control the out come. Just to let you I was not the only one upset with these calls. I spent most of the game with a RMC fan and after several of these bad calls he started cheering for Methodist.

REALLY?!?!?!

[CMR]

The world of 1999 revisited, apparently.

Touche'.  I could count on a CU grad to know!

That doesn't hurt, but I do know things about other D-III schools, too.

No doubt.   

[Hawks88]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

The USA South is adding Brevard and going to 8 conference games next year. It's not like Ferrum just decided they don't want to play the game at HSC next year.

[CMR]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

The USA South is adding Brevard and going to 8 conference games next year. It's not like Ferrum just decided they don't want to play the game at HSC next year.

That's fine, but knowing that, then Ferrum should have done the honorable thing and played at HSC this year.

[HSCTiger fan]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

The USA South is adding Brevard and going to 8 conference games next year. It's not like Ferrum just decided they don't want to play the game at HSC next year.

Then what did they decide?

[Scots13]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

The USA South is adding Brevard and going to 8 conference games next year. It's not like Ferrum just decided they don't want to play the game at HSC next year.

Heard E&H is dropping Maryville off the schedule next year, but it's doubtful with CUA leaving the ODAC. Brevard is probably taking Hanover's spot, but I wonder if we'll do the one off year like we did when CNU was still around? If the USAC doesn't, it puts some ODAC teams behind the 8 ball, I'd imagine.

[Hawks88]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

The USA South is adding Brevard and going to 8 conference games next year. It's not like Ferrum just decided they don't want to play the game at HSC next year.

Then what did they decide?

Not being privy to the decision making of the Ferrum athletic department the easy assumption is that they had contracts for three non-conference games and had to drop one and since they may have a conference game week 3 that is the one that got dropped. Maybe HSC already has contracts for both week 1 and week 2. Maybe neither one have two other non-conference contracts and they both do have an available matching open date and Ferrum went ahead and said screw y'all we're not coming up there anyway. #3 just wasn't my first thought.

[HSCTiger fan]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

Actually 2 at neutral sites.  Last year's game wa played at a local HS. Can't see why it's "the biggest mistake". Things happen. 

[hasanova]

Top 25 out through games of September 17:

- Huntingdon up two spots to #17
- CNU enters the poll at #24 after signature NJAC win over Wesley.  Congratulations!
- Guilford up on points at 25, but holding steady at #32.
- W&L still getting points with 3.

[Scots13]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

Actually 2 at neutral sites.  Last year's game wa played at a local HS. Can't see why it's "the biggest mistake". Things happen.

In all fairness to that point, Ferrum was still upgrading facilities at that time. It's not that they wanted to play at a neutral site, they had to play at a neutral site.

[jknezek]

Well I have to say, W&L's game was disheartening. The first half looked good for a while, but up 21-0 and driving twice in the second quarter we fumbled. Those were chances to put the game away. Go into the locker room up 4 or 5 scores and it's different than going in 21-3 and with CMS getting the ball back to start the second half. The second half was a big drop off. One good drive the whole half. I think CMS woke up a bit, but I also think they made better adjustments. Looked like we came out without the same intensity. Injuries are adding up. Two years ago was brutal for injuries, last year was lucky. This year is not looking good.

Punting is brutal. There have been at least 3 shanks and now 2 blocks. CMS put points on the board after both blocked punts. 4 punts, 23 yard average this weekend. 3 yards more than we averaged against JHU. Sewanee we got at least 35 yards. The blocks weren't the punter's fault, CMS was on him so quick he had no shot, so it's not all on him. But that unit needs emergency work.

Finally, W&L plays soft pass coverage. Have as long as I can remember. But when you are tied with 2 minutes to go, and the opposing team has a kicker that has proven to have serious leg, you can't let them just glide down to the 15 yard line and kick the winning field goal. It was much too easy and the coaches needed to recognize it.

Overall, tough second half on offense and defense, tough game for the punting team, tough ending for the coaches. We will need to improve and get healthier during the off week and get ready for the real season to begin.

[CMR]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

Actually 2 at neutral sites.  Last year's game wa played at a local HS. Can't see why it's "the biggest mistake". Things happen.

In all fairness to that point, Ferrum was still upgrading facilities at that time. It's not that they wanted to play at a neutral site, they had to play at a neutral site.

But, that's not HSC's fault.  Just because Ferrum could not play their game at home, because of their own doing, should not force HSC to not get the home game this year.  I don't defend HSC often (never), but this is one time that I think HSC got the shaft.

[Scots13]

Why is the FC/HSC game in Salem?  Looks to be about 10 people at the game.  Seems like a waste.

They refused to play HSC at home.

Perhaps the biggest mistake in the history of Tiger scheduling.  The agreement was for a game at Ferrum last year, a game at a neutral site (Salem) this year, and a game at Hampden-Sydney next year.  However, Ferrum has decided not to honor the agreement, having backed out of the game scheduled at HSC next year.  So the Tigers end up with last year's game at Ferrum and this year's game against Ferrum in Salem.  Two games on the road against Ferrum (one at the neutral site) and no games at home.

Actually 2 at neutral sites.  Last year's game wa played at a local HS. Can't see why it's "the biggest mistake". Things happen.

In all fairness to that point, Ferrum was still upgrading facilities at that time. It's not that they wanted to play at a neutral site, they had to play at a neutral site.

But, that's not HSC's fault.  Just because Ferrum could not play their game at home, because of their own doing, should not force HSC to not get the home game this year.  I don't defend HSC often (never), but this is one time that I think HSC got the shaft.

By that logic, I'm guessing Ferrum should have chosen to shaft themselves? That's the honorable thing to do, right?

I'll grant you that is sucks for HSC, but come on...it's not like FC knew they were going to screw HSC out of a home game when the agreement was drawn up. Having another conference expansion is throwing a wrench into things. It boils down to FC having 1/16 voting power. What do the other 15 schools care about the 2017 HSC/FC game?

[jknezek]

I really don't think it's that big of a deal. Playing in Salem was stupid, on both team's part. Why pay to rent the field, have fewer supporters, and lose the campus atmosphere? All so you can play on the same field as the Stagg? Kind of pointless to me. But, I don't think it's a huge deal that Ferrum isn't coming to H-SC. Both games played were neutral site, shading toward the other's campus. Regardless of whether it was meant to be that way or not, that's pretty much what happened and hardly unfair in the end. ODAC teams will have big schedule issues starting next year. Losing Ferrum from that week 3 spot isn't an issue because somehow H-SC got gypped of a home game, it's an issue because filling week 3, and the 4th OOC, is going to be a bear.

I don't often envy the USASAC, but I do envy them their 8 conference games. To me that's perfect for a 10 game schedule. The two OOCs help with SOS and getting ready, and the 8 conference games provide a large amount of stability and ease of scheduling.