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HSCTiger74

Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?
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jknezek

Finally W&L's offense kicked into gear for a whole game. Surprised the heck out of me to see the team I've been expecting all season showed up for the first time on the road. The lines pushed Guilford around and only the Generals' own mistakes cost them. Fumbles are brutal this year. The defense seemed better, mainly because the D line was getting a bit of pressure. Nice to see a complete game, especially on the road.

Guilford looked OK, but they had no answer for W&L's O line. Holes gaped open all over and only when the Generals' ran jet sweeps did Guilford hold up. The late punt fumble was just a mistake too much.

Guilford is good, but without Bell they will struggle some. The RB is good, but not a player that strikes fear in a D coordinator yet. It's asking a lot for the QB to carry the load, especially if the line doesn't improve.

Against a different offense the defense might be enough, but they were cheating so hard to the perimeter to stop the sweeps and option that they were exposed up the middle.

If W&L didn't play their best game of the season the Quakers could have taken them. A bit of bad luck for them that W&L put it all together today. A good sign for W&L that they started this crucial stretch with a strong road win.

y_jack_lok

#20117
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 15, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?

Good one. We could go into all the ways a defense can score touchdowns -- but they are still touchdowns.

Scots13

Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 15, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?

Maryville had a guard recover a blocked PAT in the end zone today and was given 2. Ferrum didn't try to cover the block. First time I've ever seen that.
Where Chilhowee's lofty mountains pierce the southern blue, proudly stands our Alma Mater
NOBLE, GRAND, and TRUE.
TO THE HILL!

y_jack_lok

Quote from: Scots13 on October 15, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 15, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?

Maryville had a guard recover a blocked PAT in the end zone today and was given 2. Ferrum didn't try to cover the block. First time I've ever seen that.

Interesting. Was it a safety? I've seen blocked PATs returned the length of the field by the defense and the score counts as a 2 point conversion.

jknezek

Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 15, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 15, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?

Maryville had a guard recover a blocked PAT in the end zone today and was given 2. Ferrum didn't try to cover the block. First time I've ever seen that.

Interesting. Was it a safety? I've seen blocked PATs returned the length of the field by the defense and the score counts as a 2 point conversion.

No. It's a 2 point conversion. The guard was on offense. He fell on the blocked kick in the endzone, so it is a 2 pt conversion. Albeit a stupid one that punishes the defense for blocking a kick.

Hawks88

Quote from: jknezek on October 15, 2016, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 15, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 15, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?

Maryville had a guard recover a blocked PAT in the end zone today and was given 2. Ferrum didn't try to cover the block. First time I've ever seen that.

Interesting. Was it a safety? I've seen blocked PATs returned the length of the field by the defense and the score counts as a 2 point conversion.

No. It's a 2 point conversion. The guard was on offense. He fell on the blocked kick in the endzone, so it is a 2 pt conversion. Albeit a stupid one that punishes the defense for blocking a kick.
I thought it was supposed to be like a punt and a dead ball when the kicking team touches it unless the defense touches it beyond the line of scrimmage.

Scots13

Quote from: jknezek on October 15, 2016, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 15, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 15, 2016, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.

   Drop kick?

Maryville had a guard recover a blocked PAT in the end zone today and was given 2. Ferrum didn't try to cover the block. First time I've ever seen that.

Interesting. Was it a safety? I've seen blocked PATs returned the length of the field by the defense and the score counts as a 2 point conversion.

No. It's a 2 point conversion. The guard was on offense. He fell on the blocked kick in the endzone, so it is a 2 pt conversion. Albeit a stupid one that punishes the defense for blocking a kick.

I would go with "trotted" to the ball.FC blocked it, kid tries to catch it and is hit by his own player, ball falls in the end zone and rolls to the back line. Everyone just stopped and looked at the ball. Damnedest thing I've seen at a ball game
Where Chilhowee's lofty mountains pierce the southern blue, proudly stands our Alma Mater
NOBLE, GRAND, and TRUE.
TO THE HILL!

hscathletics

Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.
Can XPs be returned in college?

jknezek

Quote from: hscathletics on October 15, 2016, 08:27:21 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.
Can XPs be returned in college?

Yes. Given W&L's struggles kicking PATs I checked.

HSCTiger fan

#20125
Only in the ODAC will you find an 0-4 team playing for first place and a 4-0 team playing to not be in last place after only 3 conference games.

The defensive two has been in college since 1988.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

jknezek

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 15, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
Only in the ODAC will you find an 0-4 team playing for first place and a 4-0 team playing to not be in last place after only 3 conference games.

The defensive two has been in college for at least 15-20 years.

Well... there have been years where 6-4 type teams have won a conference and gone to the playoffs. I believe St. Lawrence was once sacrificed to UMU that way. So it probably happens in other places, especially in the early stages of conference play. With all non-conf games up front, it's more likely these days though I'd guess you are correct that it's still pretty rare.

Which W&L team will show up next weekend? If it's the one Guilford saw today H-SC is in a lot of trouble. That team shows up sometimes, like the first half against C-M-S, the fourth quarter against Sewanee, and the first half against E&H. If it's the team that has been around some of the other times, H-SC will have a good shot at leaving Lexington with a win.

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: jknezek on October 15, 2016, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 15, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
Only in the ODAC will you find an 0-4 team playing for first place and a 4-0 team playing to not be in last place after only 3 conference games.

The defensive two has been in college for at least 15-20 years.

Well... there have been years where 6-4 type teams have won a conference and gone to the playoffs. I believe St. Lawrence was once sacrificed to UMU that way. So it probably happens in other places, especially in the early stages of conference play. With all non-conf games up front, it's more likely these days though I'd guess you are correct that it's still pretty rare.

Which W&L team will show up next weekend? If it's the one Guilford saw today H-SC is in a lot of trouble. That team shows up sometimes, like the first half against C-M-S, the fourth quarter against Sewanee, and the first half against E&H. If it's the team that has been around some of the other times, H-SC will have a good shot at leaving Lexington with a win.
I can use a similar argument. Will the HSC that played the first half at CUA or second half be in Lexington next weekend?  If it's the latter it will bad for the Tigers. If it's the former then HSC has a chance.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

y_jack_lok

Quote from: hscathletics on October 15, 2016, 08:27:21 PM
Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 15, 2016, 04:24:01 PM
E&H was the better team today. An interesting bit of trivia about the Jackets' scoring -- their 20 points cam on a safety, field goal, two touchdowns (one rushing, one passing) a one point conversion and a two point conversion (rushing). Not sure there are any other ways to score points in football without scoring another touchdown and getting a two point conversion with a pass.
Can XPs be returned in college?

Yes, I've seen it happen once in a televised D1 game.

HSCTiger74

Quote from: jknezek on October 15, 2016, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 15, 2016, 09:29:42 PM
Only in the ODAC will you find an 0-4 team playing for first place and a 4-0 team playing to not be in last place after only 3 conference games.

The defensive two has been in college for at least 15-20 years.

Well... there have been years where 6-4 type teams have won a conference and gone to the playoffs. I believe St. Lawrence was once sacrificed to UMU that way. So it probably happens in other places, especially in the early stages of conference play. With all non-conf games up front, it's more likely these days though I'd guess you are correct that it's still pretty rare.

Which W&L team will show up next weekend? If it's the one Guilford saw today H-SC is in a lot of trouble. That team shows up sometimes, like the first half against C-M-S, the fourth quarter against Sewanee, and the first half against E&H. If it's the team that has been around some of the other times, H-SC will have a good shot at leaving Lexington with a win.

  The first season I was on these boards that exact thing happened to R-MC. 
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