FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[wally_wabash]

At what time did I suggest the state make kids play football? 

You cannot be serious right now.  70 minutes ago you said:

In my opinion the states need to step in and change rules to help get more participants.

Good grief. 

Anyway, if NC's rules make it technically legal for schools to practice and play year round, schools are still free to choose to not practice and play year round.  And maybe they shouldn't, particularly if fielding a football team matters to any particular school and an easily identifiable cause for the drop in participation is that kids and families don't want to commit to practicing year round.  The problem isn't with the regulations (or lack thereof), the problem- as jk has sagely noted- is the culture of youth sports.  You know why a kid can't just be a kid or get a summer job?  Because he's got some meathead coach in his ear preaching some horseplop about rise and grind and how the hypothetical other guy is out there somewhere pushing up a weight while you're not and blah blah blah.

Having a state agency change rules that makes it easier for kids to play football is a far cry from making legislation to make kids play football.

I could really care less about your opinion on something you know nothing about. I live here. I know probably 30 head coaches that are some of the finest men I know. They do ALL the practices they are allowed and I would consider only a few of them meatheads.

Kudos to you Wally for figuring out what ails football participation. Youth coaches. That must be it. Cannot be a combination of factors. You're right - must be the coaches or the culture they promote.  Now that I know this I can go tell my local parks and rec and tell them to hire better football coaches. Funny thing is they will probably think I'm nuts since they have not had a team in 4 years. Damn those rec league coaches that don't exist for ruining football participation.  Damn the culture they promote to NO ONE.

Sounds like y'all need the state to step in and help your guys rush for positive yards in a game. 

I have no idea what you're even blathering on about anymore.  Your POV is different every time you click "post".  Good day, sir. 

[jknezek]

By the way, using the generalssports.com archive, I believe this is the first time W&L has started the season 2-0, with both wins coming on the road, in the history of the program. At least back to 1899 when the home/away information starts to show up.

[hasanova]

Quakers beat Methodist 61-35 with De'Eric Bell rushing for 225 yards and a school record 5 TDs.  Barring injury, he will set a lot of new school standards this year.  GC got 200+ yards passing and a pick six.  Fun game to watch.

Wow, did anyone else see the SU score versus NC Wesleyan.  The Hornets must have a very potent offense this season.

[y_jack_lok]

R-MC was playing without two senior running backs (Hoy and Frederick), but their sophomore replacements did just fine. Overall not a very remarkable game, just basic football including turnovers by both teams that led to scores. AU's QB runs well and their defense didn't allow any really long rushes. The Jackets threw a TD pass on 4th and 8 from the 29 for what I believe was their biggest play of the game.

[HSCTiger fan]

JK you're right. HSC's running game is non-existent at the moment. Two games 36 net rushing yards. Scary bad to say the least.  It's also very concerning that HSC has scored 0 second half points this year.   On a positive note HSC's defense played very well today.

Wally my "POV" on not caring about your opinions has not change in the least. Neither have any of my opinions on rule changes by the state on limiting pre-season practices and number of games for HS football in NC. By the way thanks for wishing me good day - it was.

[HSCTiger74]

JK you're right. HSC's running game is non-existent at the moment. Two games 36 net rushing yards. Scary bad to say the least.  It's also very concerning that HSC has scored 0 second half points this year.   On a positive note HSC's defense played very well today.

Wally my "POV" on not caring about your opinions has not change in the least. Neither have any of my opinions on rule changes by the state on limiting pre-season practices and number of games for HS football in NC. By the way thanks for wishing me good day - it was.

    You know, you could do away with a lot of this arguing back and forth if you'd stop saying "the state", which most of us infer to mean the government of the state of NC, and start saying the state high school association. If you really do mean the government, though, you should definitely expect pushback.

[hasanova]

By the way, using the generalssports.com archive, I believe this is the first time W&L has started the season 2-0, with both wins coming on the road, in the history of the program. At least back to 1899 when the home/away information starts to show up.

Congratulations to the Generals.  Their offense certainly began to click yesterday.

[pumkinattack]

At what time did I suggest the state make kids play football? 

You cannot be serious right now.  70 minutes ago you said:

In my opinion the states need to step in and change rules to help get more participants.

Good grief. 

Anyway, if NC's rules make it technically legal for schools to practice and play year round, schools are still free to choose to not practice and play year round.  And maybe they shouldn't, particularly if fielding a football team matters to any particular school and an easily identifiable cause for the drop in participation is that kids and families don't want to commit to practicing year round.  The problem isn't with the regulations (or lack thereof), the problem- as jk has sagely noted- is the culture of youth sports.  You know why a kid can't just be a kid or get a summer job?  Because he's got some meathead coach in his ear preaching some horseplop about rise and grind and how the hypothetical other guy is out there somewhere pushing up a weight while you're not and blah blah blah.

Having a state agency change rules that makes it easier for kids to play football is a far cry from making legislation to make kids play football.

I could really care less about your opinion on something you know nothing about. I live here. I know probably 30 head coaches that are some of the finest men I know. They do ALL the practices they are allowed and I would consider only a few of them meatheads.

Kudos to you Wally for figuring out what ails football participation. Youth coaches. That must be it. Cannot be a combination of factors. You're right - must be the coaches or the culture they promote.  Now that I know this I can go tell my local parks and rec and tell them to hire better football coaches. Funny thing is they will probably think I'm nuts since they have not had a team in 4 years. Damn those rec league coaches that don't exist for ruining football participation.  Damn the culture they promote to NO ONE.

Sounds like y'all need the state to step in and help your guys rush for positive yards in a game. 

I have no idea what you're even blathering on about anymore.  Your POV is different every time you click "post".  Good day, sir.

I don't know about the guy who established the state of North Carolina questioning your ability to use adult logic or whatever pissed off words were strung together in that post.  (The "I live here is inane", I have family that founded a Furman University (upstate SC) and was commissioned to print confederate money during the civil war first out of charleston then columbia (Cogswell of Evans & Cogswell,downstate, a different and near rival culture to upstate) and I'm not claiming to be omniscient about everything in the state. 

Now that said poster is upset with me allow me to modify the comment of his originally here as surely we've all see behavior and socialization change due to forced changes in codified law.  That being said, if you create a structure that allows some capacity, think Prisoners Dilemma or Monte Carlo type analysis.  So there could be a case for creating a structure that would minimize the negatively perceived qualities for kids and maximize their participation which could include less or more structured practices.  Reality is, anything the state or local communities do to attempt that will not be executed properly and most likely accelerate the current trend in FB, which is happening everywhere.  NC needs to focus on its internal problems like who goes in what bathrooms, the death of the Hickory and triad areas, the fact that Wachovia and BofA aren't run out of Charlotte anymore and NASCAR was never a business/entity to build an economic community it's around.  Instead of making football laws and talking trash to a longtime, valued community (D3boards & D3football) contributor how about getting the flagship university in the state on its feet from becoming on par w West Georgia college.

[awadelewis]

By the way, using the generalssports.com archive, I believe this is the first time W&L has started the season 2-0, with both wins coming on the road, in the history of the program. At least back to 1899 when the home/away information starts to show up.

Congratulations to the Generals.  Their offense certainly began to click yesterday.

My takeaway from watching W&L yesterday is that they'll struggle against a team with a strong pass oriented offense.  Way too many cases yesterday where our QB was able to hit receivers either in the flat or on hook patterns.  You can see that if you look at Sewanee's receiving stats in the box score.   

[jknezek]

By the way, using the generalssports.com archive, I believe this is the first time W&L has started the season 2-0, with both wins coming on the road, in the history of the program. At least back to 1899 when the home/away information starts to show up.

Congratulations to the Generals.  Their offense certainly began to click yesterday.

My takeaway from watching W&L yesterday is that they'll struggle against a team with a strong pass oriented offense.  Way too many cases yesterday where our QB was able to hit receivers either in the flat or on hook patterns.  You can see that if you look at Sewanee's receiving stats in the box score.

Yeah. That happens when a significant portion of your starting secondary did not play. But, as usual with the Generals, we give up yards before the red zone and then don't break. Sewanee is looking better though. QB has a rocket arm, needs a little more touch. And the lines still need work.

[awadelewis]

Yeah. That happens when a significant portion of your starting secondary did not play. But, as usual with the Generals, we give up yards before the red zone and then don't break. Sewanee is looking better though. QB has a rocket arm, needs a little more touch. And the lines still need work.

Darras is playing much better this year.  Agree about needs to work on the improving his touch with the ball.   Bunch of plays where he overthrow his receivers.    Line play is going to improve as some of young kids get into the S&C program. 

[Birddawg79]

By the way, using the generalssports.com archive, I believe this is the first time W&L has started the season 2-0, with both wins coming on the road, in the history of the program. At least back to 1899 when the home/away information starts to show up.

Once again your research will be appreciated by the athletic dept.. 
Had a blast meeting you yesterday. We had a great crowd at Sewanee. I do believe the General nation outnumbered the Sewanee faithful 2-1.

[jknezek]

By the way, using the generalssports.com archive, I believe this is the first time W&L has started the season 2-0, with both wins coming on the road, in the history of the program. At least back to 1899 when the home/away information starts to show up.

Once again your research will be appreciated by the athletic dept.. 
Had a blast meeting you yesterday. We had a great crowd at Sewanee. I do believe the General nation outnumbered the Sewanee faithful 2-1.

It was nice of Sewanee to add the extra bleachers after the last few years where there wasn't enough. Though I still prefer standing near the endline. I don't sit well while the Genies are playing.

It was great to meet you as well. Looking forward to a good season now that the offense has hopefully been jumpstarted!

[tigerFanAlso2]

Congrats to all ODAC teams that posted OOC victories.

I did have an opportunity to visit HSC this weekend. Defense improved (or CNU is not that good) but the OL really struggles. Minus rushing yards again this week, QB sacked 7 times. This is a problem that needs to be fixed yesterday. If there are no fixes this is going to be a very long season.
I don't think there will be any football played in Virginia this coming weekend, the Tigers have off on September 22nd, so there is time to address this issue if it can be fixed.

I'm hoping things will improve allowing HSC to compete in the ODAC. Fingers crossed.

[jknezek]

Congrats to all ODAC teams that posted OOC victories.

I did have an opportunity to visit HSC this weekend. Defense improved (or CNU is not that good) but the OL really struggles. Minus rushing yards again this week, QB sacked 7 times. This is a problem that needs to be fixed yesterday. If there are no fixes this is going to be a very long season.
I don't think there will be any football played in Virginia this coming weekend, the Tigers have off on September 22nd, so there is time to address this issue if it can be fixed.

I'm hoping things will improve allowing HSC to compete in the ODAC. Fingers crossed.

This is an incredibly good point. The storm track is definitely not conducive to football, but I hope it shifts north and east and hooks out to sea. We will have to wait and see. For all of our posters on the eastern seaboard, be careful and be safe. As a veteran of the 2004 and 2005 Florida hurricane seasons, and many storms growing up on the coast of NJ, don't underestimate the power and damage this storm can do!