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Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that’s all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I’ve said it really doesn’t matter.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

wally_wabash

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that's all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I've said it really doesn't matter.

Not assigning right and wrong here, Francis.  Just pointing out that a lot of QBs had a lot of really good games in whatever ways people want to measure it.  Yards, completions, ypa, TDs, total offense, whatever.  There's one spot on the TotW and every single week a lot of good games by QBs don't get mentioned in that space. 
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Toby Taff

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that's all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I've said it really doesn't matter.
UMHB's backup, former wide receiver DeNarian Thomas, threw for 2 and ran for 2. 2-3 for 67 and 2 TDs 3 carries for 34 yds 2 TD's - 3 of those scores in the first quarter. UMHB had 4 defensive TD's Reginald Cole had 2 TFL, 1 FF, 1 FR returned for a TD and a Pick he returned for 33 yds. none were picked. There are lots of games every week. even though we want to see our guys picked every week Pat and the Crew put in the work and give us a solid ToW every week.
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that's all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I've said it really doesn't matter.

Hey, man -- your guy was considered and we made the call that we made. And I gave the courtesy of a response and the reasoning -- it's a defensible position, even if it's not the one you would agree with.

At least Hampden-Sydney nominated him, because I'd say about 90% of the time people ask why their guy didn't make the team, it turns out that the person wasn't even nominated!
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Toby Taff

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2018, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that's all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I've said it really doesn't matter.

Hey, man -- your guy was considered and we made the call that we made. And I gave the courtesy of a response and the reasoning -- it's a defensible position, even if it's not the one you would agree with.

At least Hampden-Sydney nominated him, because I'd say about 90% of the time people ask why their guy didn't make the team, it turns out that the person wasn't even nominated!
I didn't even realize that you took nominations from the schools. Makes sense though, nobody can watch that much football
My wife and I are Alumni of both UMHB and HSU.  You think you are confused, my kids don't know which Purple and Gold team to pull for.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Toby Taff on October 02, 2018, 04:30:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2018, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that's all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I've said it really doesn't matter.

Hey, man -- your guy was considered and we made the call that we made. And I gave the courtesy of a response and the reasoning -- it's a defensible position, even if it's not the one you would agree with.

At least Hampden-Sydney nominated him, because I'd say about 90% of the time people ask why their guy didn't make the team, it turns out that the person wasn't even nominated!
I didn't even realize that you took nominations from the schools. Makes sense though, nobody can watch that much football

Yeah -- and even if we did, to sort through 116 box scores like we had this week, we'd still not really be able to process everything. Would rather be looking at 20-some quarterbacks nominated than 232.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

HSCTiger fan

#22056
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2018, 03:48:55 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:22:32 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 02, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 02, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
If we are looking at this based yards per attempt. Then you need to also consider TD passes. Your guy had 1 TD every 20.5 passes. Cobb had a TD every 11 attempts.  Scoring TDs is much more important than yards per attempt.

It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.

Jake Kennedy threw for 7 TDs.  Canaan Gebele threw two and ran for five more.  That was all in the same game.  They didn't get on the team either.  Lot of good performances out there, but there can be only one QB on the TotW.

Good for Jack good for Canaan. You forgot to mention they played a 4 OT game.  Pat did not bring them up. He made an argument about yards per attempt as why TOTW QB was chosen OVER Cobb. I disagree - that’s all Wally. No need for you to reply and tell me how wrong I am. As I’ve said it really doesn’t matter.

Hey, man -- your guy was considered and we made the call that we made. And I gave the courtesy of a response and the reasoning -- it's a defensible position, even if it's not the one you would agree with.

At least Hampden-Sydney nominated him, because I'd say about 90% of the time people ask why their guy didn't make the team, it turns out that the person wasn't even nominated!

Hey Pat this is Francis. I don't think any of you read either of my posts to completion I said "It really does not matter. HSC fans everywhere are very proud of Cobb.". and I said again in my next post that "...it really doesn't matter."  I'm fine with you guys' picks.   I don't need Willie Wonka to point out to me there are" a lot of QBs with a lot of good games". I can be fine with the choice and still disagree.

I'll say it one more time - it really doesn't matter.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

Pat Coleman

You've spent a lot of time on something that doesn't really matter.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 09:01:48 AM
You've spent a lot of time on something that doesn't really matter.

Ok then I guess it matters then.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

HSCTiger64

Fellas, fellas

Let's talk about the big week in the ODAC and around the nation.  two top ten matchups and then some big matchups and questions on the home front!

Guilford has to rebound and play Macon.....now the conference favorites for sure. 

H-SC is coming off a nice victory over the weekend and gets to travel north to Shenandoah, who after losing at home will have to rebound quickly. 

W&L and Bridgewater, W&L looking to bounce back and Bridgewater looking to keep it rolling

FB0417

New here wondered if you all could shed  some light for me.

Curious why W&L carries such a smaller roster than others in the conference. Are they more selective in their recruits? Or, do they just have a smaller population of students who want to play?

Seems like they may do more national recruiting than the other teams...

Thanks

jknezek

Quote from: FB0417 on October 03, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
New here wondered if you all could shed  some light for me.

Curious why W&L carries such a smaller roster than others in the conference. Are they more selective in their recruits? Or, do they just have a smaller population of students who want to play?

Seems like they may do more national recruiting than the other teams...

Thanks

Can't get them through admissions and don't need a large roster to help fill the beds at the school. W&L has recruited with purpose. They don't have a large group of walk ons or student athletes that were sold a bill of goods about their ability to play, when what was really important was the ability to pay.

They recruit players they are confident can play, will play, and generally do play. And those players tend to stay on the team at a much higher rate than other schools. W&L's retention rate for the football team has been in the range of 25-35 first years, 12-18 seniors. So 50% or better recently. Most DIII programs lose 50% from first year to second year alone, and then another 50% of what's left from sophomore to senior years. The more first years you bring in, the greater the percentage drop.

jknezek

Quote from: FB0417 on October 03, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
New here wondered if you all could shed  some light for me.

Curious why W&L carries such a smaller roster than others in the conference. Are they more selective in their recruits? Or, do they just have a smaller population of students who want to play?

Seems like they may do more national recruiting than the other teams...

Thanks

Welcome to the board by the way.

hasanova

Quote from: FB0417 on October 03, 2018, 03:32:07 PM
New here wondered if you all could shed  some light for me.

Curious why W&L carries such a smaller roster than others in the conference. Are they more selective in their recruits? Or, do they just have a smaller population of students who want to play?

Seems like they may do more national recruiting than the other teams...

Thanks
Welcome to the board, FB0417.  Glad to have you join us.  +1 for your question.

tigerFanAlso2

64

Interesting weekend in the ODAC; as always most games could go either way. This is the way I see it;

W&L at BC ---  I have the home team in this one. To date W&L's offense has not been good and unless that improves I have BC in a slight upset.
HSC at SU --- Going to be an interesting game. Top 2 QB's in the ODAC fighting it out. I think the HSC defense is better than SU's and I have the Tigers winning on the road in a high scoring affair. If you like offensive football you will love this game.
GC @ RMC -- if RMC can avoid a let down after last weeks romp over W&L they should win by two scores however Mr. Bell can change things in GC's favor if the RMC defense is not careful.
TM at E&H .... who knows what TM team is going to show up. E&H can be tough at home but I have them losing by two scores.