FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Yes, J.D. Ricca and Nick Bublavi have put up impressive 2005 (and career) numbers.

But consider what Washington has done in only seven games:

• He averages only 13 carries a game (roughly 15 touches a game)
• He has 19 total touchdowns (four different ways)
• He averages 162.3 all-purpose yards a game
• He averages 7.2 yards a rush
• He averages 35.0 yards a KOR, single-handedly forcing opponents to pooch kickoffs 30 yards
• He hasn't fumbled in 113 touches this season

What has Ricca or Bublavi done outside of the QB or WR positions?

And the fact that Winston Young had a 198-yard, 5 TD day doesn't take away from Washington.  Just shows two things: (1) what a player can do w/ only one star in the backfield and (2) how awesome our offensive line is.  Young is a stud.  Was last year (12 TDs), is this year, and will be next year.  All the more reason to think Washington's stats are impressive.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

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What has Ricca or Bublavi done outside of the QB or WR positions?
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This is in response to Ricca averaing 3.2 yards a game on the ground .... and Bublavi having no passing, rushing, or return TDs.

[franknizy]

kid, those stats are nice, but JDs are nasty. Over 3300 yds & 37 tds are the best in the COUNTRY.  Not to mention the records, and the fact that 7 games isnt cuttin it. M Wash deserves some post season accolades, but this award is not one of them. 

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

kid, those stats are nice, but JDs are nasty. Over 3300 yds & 37 tds are the best in the COUNTRY.  Not to mention the records, and the fact that 7 games isnt cuttin it. M Wash deserves some post season accolades, but this award is not one of them. 

He averages 39 passes a game.  I hope (in a pass-happy offense like H-SC) that he can average four TDs a game.

How about 13 Ricca interceptions to 0 Washington fumbles?

[franknizy]

how about the fact that JD had the greatest statistical year in the history of the conference.  Also, there are 2 other qbs in the ODAC with more attempts per game.  Why dont they have more yds & tds than him? Fumbles vs Ints is apples vs oranges.  1 int every 27 attempts is a way above average stat my stat lovin friend.

[mizzou_mafia]

But consider what Washington has done in only seven games:

• He averages only 13 carries a game (roughly 15 touches a game)
• He has 19 total touchdowns (four different ways)
• He averages 162.3 all-purpose yards a game
• He averages 7.2 yards a rush
• He averages 35.0 yards a KOR, single-handedly forcing opponents to pooch kickoffs 30 yards
• He hasn't fumbled in 113 touches this season

PASSING         GP   Effic Att-Cmp-Int   Pct     Yds     TD Lng  Avg/G
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JD Ricca             6  175.76  174-107-4   61.5 1755  18  98 292.5
Jacob Lewis      7  143.66  167-106-5   63.5 1281  11  58 183.0

See, the funny thing about this comparison, is this is JD Ricca last year in 6 games vs Jacob Lewis this year in 7 games.  Ricca was considered a front-runner for a lot of post-season awards last year, but since he only played in 6 games, that was thrown out the windown.

Here's Ricca this year:

PASSING         GP   Effic Att-Cmp-Int   Pct  Yds     TD  Lng Avg/G
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J.D. Ricca       9  173.63 352-234-13   66.5 3346  37  61 371.8

My point in bringing this up is that Marcus may have a lot of the "per game" stats, but Ricca did last year too.   Yes, Marcus rocks the ball when he touches it, but Ricca does too, and has done so many many MANY more times than Marcus this year.

If Marcus was the single workhorse in the BC backfield and wouldn't get injured, then I could see him up for the ODAC Player of the Year award.  But, plain and simple, Marcus isn't the only workhorse and he does miss plays/games to injury.  I think his numbers are more closely in-line with Ricca's performance last year than Ricca's performance this year.

[Outsider14]

marcus was leading the country in points per game before he got injured--stats haven't been updated yet on the ncaa site. if that's not player of the year i don't know what is

[franknizy]

furthermore, in a run happy offense like BWs I would expect some numbers to be a little more eye popping (not numbers that rival h-scs rb in a "pass happy" offense.) Washington is a hell of a player who had a great year.  His team had more success than JDs but JD had the best year a QB has ever had in this conference.JD  is a more worthy candidate than washington, and so is Bublavi for that matter.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

how about the fact that JD had the greatest statistical year in the history of the conference.  Also, there are 2 other qbs in the ODAC with more attempts per game.  Why dont they have more yds & tds than him? Fumbles vs Ints is apples vs oranges.  1 int every 27 attempts is a way above average stat my stat lovin friend.

Ricca actually has 16 turnovers (13 INTs, 3 fumbles).  His 13 interceptions are more than any other Top 35 QB (passing efficiency wise).

kid, those stats are nice, but JDs are nasty. Over 3300 yds & 37 tds are the best in the COUNTRY. Not to mention the records, and the fact that 7 games isnt cuttin it. M Wash deserves some post season accolades, but this award is not one of them.

Let's see ...

Ricca is ranked 1st in total offense with 377.5 yards per game and 9th in passing efficiency with a 170.0 rating.  And his 33 TDs (prior to this past weekend's game) was #1 in the nation.

Washington is 2nd in scoring (13.7 ppg), 3rd in KOR (35.0 yards a return), and 21st in all-purpose yards.

So yeah, Washington's numbers are some of the BEST IN THE COUNTRY.

Yours Truly,

Stat Lovin Friend

[Llamaguy]

how about the fact that JD had the greatest statistical year in the history of the conference.  Also, there are 2 other qbs in the ODAC with more attempts per game.  Why dont they have more yds & tds than him? Fumbles vs Ints is apples vs oranges.  1 int every 27 attempts is a way above average stat my stat lovin friend.

Ya think it might have to do with:

A) The other two with more attempts are FRESHMAN
B) Comparing little-Ricca is a joke because he has been running for his life all season.    (Catholic has allowed 32 sack so far this season)
C) Don't be too quick to compare Vogelbach's numbers b'cus he has 34 TDs on only 65 more attempts. He could over take Ricca this weekend for all we know.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

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My point in bringing this up is that Marcus may have a lot of the "per game" stats, but Ricca did last year too.   Yes, Marcus rocks the ball when he touches it, but Ricca does too, and has done so many many MANY more times than Marcus this year.
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Then the award should be "Quarterback of the Year" instead of "Player of the Year."

Of course someone will have more gaudy stats when they touch the ball every time it's snapped.

[mizzou_mafia]

Washington is 2nd in scoring (13.7 ppg), 3rd in KOR (35.0 yards a return), and 21st in all-purpose yards.

Kid, my older brother led the Valley District in yards per catch his senior year.  HE WAS A BEAST!!!  

Now the rest of the story is that I think he only had 3 catches.  But hey, he was like, Number 1 in the land baby!  

The stats you're showing for Marcus aren't as distorted as my brother's stat was.  But in the debate for this award, you're clearly leaving out some of the more telling stats (like my bro only having a few catches) for Marcus, while pointing out any semblance of negative stats for Ricca.  Is Washington going to play more than 7 games this regular season?  Is he going to cross 700 yards rushing?  Where does his TOTAL rushing yards rank nationally?  His TOTAL anything?  If it's lower than Ricca's, you don't have to respond.

[Outsider14]

JD had the best year a QB has ever had in this conference.

2001 lutz rushed for 1094 yards (6.2/carry, 73.5/game) and 16 TDs... passed for 2497 yds, 29 TDs (12 INTs) w/ 172.5 efficiency... and went to the national championship... i'd say that's a better year for a QB in this conference

[franknizy]

stat boy, ill guarantee you that JD is the player of the year.  If im wrong I will post a 100 word essay themed : Why kid is the all knowing D3 guru, i will admit how wrong i was, and i will pay homage to M Wash and the BW program.  But, if im right you must issue a 100 word detailed essay as to why JD Ricca is the best player in the conference (with one shout out to franknizy & his knowledge of the ODAC)  I know your a gamblin man, whaddya say?

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

stat boy, ill guarantee you that JD is the player of the year.  If im wrong I will post a 100 word essay themed : Why kid is the all knowing D3 guru, i will admit how wrong i was, and i will pay homage to M Wash and the BW program.  But, if im right you must issue a 100 word detailed essay as to why JD Ricca is the best player in the conference (with one shout out to franknizy & his knowledge of the ODAC)  I know your a gamblin man, whaddya say?

Naw, because I wouldn't be surprised if the ODAC chose Ricca as POTY.  I'm telling you who I think has earned it.

History is on my side though ... in 1999, R-MC's QB (Brian Partlow) set a record with 3,433 passing yards and 27 TDs.  But he had 19 interceptions.  And he was also a one-dimensional QB like Ricca (Partlow had 59 rushes for -33 yards).

Did he get the award?  No.  A running back did (Andrew Notarfrancesco from CUA).