FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[Llamaguy]

This board is scrolling at mach three. 114 posts on this board in the last 24 hours. That may be a record, even if 50 of them were mine. (actually 20 but thats still enough)

[ToddEandH]

The next two weeks will be tough on the wasp DB. I hope they can find some answers. 

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Let me ask this, does anybody really expect the ODAC to do something at this point?

I'd be very surprised.

Now with the ODAC letting this slide does this open up the rest of the schools to get a one time pass for a similar incident?

I am concerned that a bad precedent is being set here.

DING!

Congrats on your victory against previously unbeaten Princeton!

[Pat Coleman]

I love all the assumptions that people are making, including that we're not trying to get the story. Perhaps a little patience and ... let me say, maturity, would be appropriate.

[Pat Coleman]

Here's the statement we received this afternoon from ODAC commissioner Brad Bankston in response to our request:

"The Guilford situation was thoroughly investigated by the league with Guilford's
full cooperation. We consulted with the NCAA enforcement services and reviewed the
case. Based on the facts the conference will impose no penalties on Guilford's
program and is working with GC to report the incident to the NCAA as a secondary
violation. After review of all the materials submitted the conference believes no
one at Guilford had knowledge of the student-athlete's previous participation and/or
prior enrollment. In addition, based on the circumstances the school had no
materials that would have led them to believe the student had triggered transfer
status. Thus, the final conclusion by the executive committee and presidents'
executive council."

I hope this puts this to rest. Since no action was taken, I do not believe this merits a news story, but I post it to this board in the hopes of ending the complaining and allegations of misconduct against Guilford, the ODAC office and the NCAA.

[WLU78]

I hope this puts this to rest. Since no action was taken, I do not believe this merits a news story, but I post it to this board in the hopes of ending the complaining and allegations of misconduct against Guilford, the ODAC office and the NCAA.

Come on Pat, if you don't have meritless news stories what do you have?  Making something out of nothing is the very foundation of journalism!  Why if this story wasn't burning up the pages on the board we would be back to Hooters discussions.

[Llamaguy]

I hope this puts this to rest. Since no action was taken, I do not believe this merits a news story, but I post it to this board in the hopes of ending the complaining and allegations of misconduct against Guilford, the ODAC office and the NCAA.

Which would have never happened if they would have just released this when they made the ruling.

Thank You Pat. That was all we ever asked for.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Here's the statement we received this afternoon from ODAC commissioner Brad Bankston in response to our request:

"The Guilford situation was thoroughly investigated by the league with Guilford's
full cooperation. We consulted with the NCAA enforcement services and reviewed the
case. Based on the facts the conference will impose no penalties on Guilford's
program and is working with GC to report the incident to the NCAA as a secondary
violation. After review of all the materials submitted the conference believes no
one at Guilford had knowledge of the student-athlete's previous participation and/or
prior enrollment. In addition, based on the circumstances the school had no
materials that would have led them to believe the student had triggered transfer
status. Thus, the final conclusion by the executive committee and presidents'
executive council."

I hope this puts this to rest. Since no action was taken, I do not believe this merits a news story, but I post it to this board in the hopes of ending the complaining and allegations of misconduct against Guilford, the ODAC office and the NCAA.

Roughly what I expected from the ODAC.  Makes sense.

Here is something I do find interesting (that the ODAC might not have learned about) ...

There is something called the National Student Clearinghouse.  I know this because the Bridgewater admissions office uses it and has been a member since the mid-90s.

In looking at the list of schools across the country that use this organization, Guilford happens to be a member.  They are one of 2,920 colleges and universities that use it.  If they are a member, why didn't they catch this kid?

[WLU78]

In the words of Rambo, "Let it go, just let it go."

[miz]

Here's the statement we received this afternoon from ODAC commissioner Brad Bankston in response to our request:

"The Guilford situation was thoroughly investigated by the league with Guilford's
full cooperation. We consulted with the NCAA enforcement services and reviewed the
case. Based on the facts the conference will impose no penalties on Guilford's
program and is working with GC to report the incident to the NCAA as a secondary
violation. After review of all the materials submitted the conference believes no
one at Guilford had knowledge of the student-athlete's previous participation and/or
prior enrollment. In addition, based on the circumstances the school had no
materials that would have led them to believe the student had triggered transfer
status. Thus, the final conclusion by the executive committee and presidents'
executive council."

I hope this puts this to rest. Since no action was taken, I do not believe this merits a news story, but I post it to this board in the hopes of ending the complaining and allegations of misconduct against Guilford, the ODAC office and the NCAA.

Roughly what I expected from the ODAC.  Makes sense.

Here is something I do find interesting (that the ODAC might not have learned about) ...

There is something called the National Student Clearinghouse.  I know this because the Bridgewater admissions office uses it and has been a member since the mid-90s.

In looking at the list of schools across the country that use this organization, Guilford happens to be a member.  They are one of 2,920 colleges and universities that use it.  If they are a member, why didn't they catch this kid?

So I guess what we're saying here is you can cheat........as long it can't be proven that you knew you cheated.........even if there are reasonable grounds to deduce that you probably should have known that you cheated........o.k., cool

(Sorry Rambo...........)

[Pat Coleman]

I think what they're saying is they're not going to hold a school responsible for a kid flat-out lying to them. Call me crazy.

[WLU78]

Look, as a long time F$U hater I can tell you there is "selective criteria" for what is considered an infraction.  No matter how much smoke there might be, the NCAA just isn't going to notice the fire.  So you can save yourselves a lot of aggrevation and blood pressure meds (so that is where the Jack Daniels empty bottle came from!?) and just roll forward!

BTW where has Hasa been to clean up my posts?  There should have bin many grammitical and spalling erors.

[allsky7]

     Finally broke down and joined this blog. See a few familiar faces.  Hasanova....I wondered what happened to you.
     I missed Stone Station last year in Salem but heard about it during the game . This year I WILL get there early enough.    With game time being 4:00 this year, every one better get their long johns pressed and ready to go. Oh course if it's MU and UWW again, I'm sure those folks will be in shorts and tees. 
     

[miz]

I think what they're saying is they're not going to hold a school responsible for a kid flat-out lying to them. Call me crazy.

Based on my limited knowledge of the situation and of NCAA bylaws, I would agree.  But what is your take on Kid's point about the clearinghouse?

If the kid lied and Guilford reasonable could not have know, I have no problem with the ruling.  But if Guilford failed to do due diligence using information that they had (or should have had) that's another story.  Again, I'm not farmiliar with the clearinghouse or it's expected role in a D-3 program, thus my request for your perspective on this one point.........

[Llamaguy]

     Finally broke down and joined this blog. See a few familiar faces.  Hasanova....I wondered what happened to you.
     I missed Stone Station last year in Salem but heard about it during the game . This year I WILL get there early enough.    With game time being 4:00 this year, every one better get their long johns pressed and ready to go. Oh course if it's MU and UWW again, I'm sure those folks will be in shorts and tees. 
     

Welcome to the board Allsky7. Feel free to post early and often.

Sorry you missed Stone Station last year. You can bet The Station will still be open early, even with a 4pm kickoff. I will be cutting my driving time from 2 hrs to 10 minutes so you can bet I will be in the Salem parkinglot early enjoying me some good D3 Tailgating. I'm just hoping Pat and the guys have the "unofficial" radio feed so we can listen to some of the most knowledgeable D3Football guys pregame during the tailgate.