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Llamaguy

Quote from: miz on September 18, 2005, 09:28:06 PM

  Looks as if we'll need every bit of it to beat HSC.  It's gonna' be a wild shoot-out again down there, isn't it.

Maybe not Miz? Hanover had a vetran OL (1 JR, the rest Seniors)and Webster threw alot of 3 step drops and slants. HSC usually goes downfield and they didn't get the time to last year against BC. I still think the key to the game will be how HSC's young OL holds up against our DL & LB's. Now if the ball gets airborne, then all bets are off that we will consistantly stop them. ;)
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You can make the assumption that HSC (re: Favret) will always do the same thing but you could get burned. Read Keith's Around the Nation from this past week for a reminder. (Second section, "Getting defensive")
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abnrgr

The last couple of years have proven to be close IRT HSC& BC but as I have said many times before, some teams just have match up problems or the proverbial "monkey on the back". HSC has that monkey.  110 points could be scored in this game given the right conditions but HSC just cannot beat BC. It's hard wired in their brains. If BC blitizes and Ricca dumps it off to the relief valve,if BC's corners hold up when they press, etc; etc; ad nauseum; BC has their number. Ricca may throw for 500 yards and till lose in the end.  It will controversial as always with a ref adding to the disaster for one of them. 49-43 BC. I hope they play again in the playoffs. That would be a Raider/Chief knock down
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dubvee75

Quote from: Llamaguy on September 18, 2005, 11:19:48 PM
Quote from: miz on September 18, 2005, 09:28:06 PM

  Looks as if we'll need every bit of it to beat HSC.  It's gonna' be a wild shoot-out again down there, isn't it.

Maybe not Miz? Hanover had a vetran OL (1 JR, the rest Seniors)and Webster threw alot of 3 step drops and slants. HSC usually goes downfield and they didn't get the time to last year against BC. I still think the key to the game will be how HSC's young OL holds up against our DL & LB's. Now if the ball gets airborne, then all bets are off that we will consistantly stop them. ;)


I wouldn't call HSC's OLine Young, All 5 of them started last season.  #68 has been seeing experience since he was a freshman.  I think the line has plenty of experience, and I would not underestimate them.

miz

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2005, 11:35:23 PM
You can make the assumption that HSC (re: Favret) will always do the same thing but you could get burned. Read Keith's Around the Nation from this past week for a reminder. (Second section, "Getting defensive")

I don't think Clark will make assumptions like that.  I also look for Clark to have a more hands-on approach with the defensive unit after the way we've played so far this year. 

Anyway, right now Bridgewater needs to be more concerned about our defense that HSC's or anybody else's offense.  We certainly haven't proven we can shut down ANYBODY this year.  We need to start dictating the flow and not having it dicatated to us (READ:  BLITZ, DAMN IT!!!!).  I hate to say this but right now we're just plain soft on that side of the ball.  Our 0-10 teams didn't give up real estate like we did on Saturday.  Somebody needs to tell this new coodinator that we built this program playing aggressive defense.  In your face, man-to-man, blitz their brains out and force mistakes.  Yeah, we'll give up the occasional big play but the rewards always used to outweigh the risk.  Now we just sit back in a passive zone and get picked apart.....slow death.  We have the damn athletes we need to use them correctly. 

Hate to be overly critical but if we get outscored by HSC and don't make the playoffs it will be a crying shame because our offensive unit is the best we've had since the Stagg Bowl year. 

Boy I bet Favret and the boys are salivating while watching the Hanover film.

Come on guys, get it corrected.

GO EAGLES!!!

Llamaguy

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 18, 2005, 11:35:23 PM
You can make the assumption that HSC (re: Favret) will always do the same thing but you could get burned. Read Keith's Around the Nation from this past week for a reminder. (Second section, "Getting defensive")

Thanks Pat, but I read it the day it came out.  :o
The fact is our coaches will review their 3 tapes and put our team in a position to be successful, the players will just have to execute. Examples? 1) Rb pass back to Qb at Shenandoah for TD. Coach Colbert noticed on tape that they never follow the QB after a handoff, result 7 pts for BC. 2) Onside kick after 3rd score at Hanover. Coaches noticed they don't stay on the line but drop back as the kicker approaches the ball, result, BC takes the ball and drives for a TD and 21 pt lead. I agree they may try something new. I also agree that if it isn't on tape they may be successful in the first half but it will be evaluated and corrected at halftime. ;)

ps. Are you telling me that BC's defense won't have gained more experience against SU,McDaniel,and HU, verses Sawanee,Gettysburg, and Guilford? Not directed towards you Pat. Just anybody answer.
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Llamaguy

Quote from: dubvee75 on September 19, 2005, 08:32:26 AM



I wouldn't call HSC's OLine Young, All 5 of them started last season.  #68 has been seeing experience since he was a freshman.  I think the line has plenty of experience, and I would not underestimate them.

Didn't  underestimate them last year either Dub, and you know what happened in the second half. Ricca ran for is life without time to pass while trying to come from behind.
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dubvee75

 LLama, I believe last year you could have used the inexperienced angle with the line.  It will be the same group this year, and I believe they are much better, I guess we will have to wait and see.  First things first, HSC 56 Guilford 14

Llamaguy

Quote from: dubvee75 on September 19, 2005, 11:46:27 AM
LLama, I believe last year you could have used the inexperienced angle with the line.  It will be the same group this year, and I believe they are much better, I guess we will have to wait and see.  First things first, HSC 56 Guilford 14

Agreed then! I expect no less of a game this year. I just think the key factors will be HSC's O-line and the HSC defense vs. BC's questionable defense. This will be the best BC offense that HSC has seen since 2001. Soooo... I guess the question will be, which defense gets the one or two stops needed to make separation. Sounds alot like we will be attending an Arena league type game. ;D
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abnrgr

56-14 HSC somebody mentioned.

I will give you HSC +62. They will try for 90 but I believe that there will not be enough time. The clock is broken at the ARMCHAIR or whatever they named it.  The Guilford kids have a different attitude but HSC will throw the ball into the last 5 seconds of the game. If GC-Q gets a field goal I'll be surprised
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abnrgr

You gotta think that somebody at GC-Q is ate up with a can of dumb a@@. Hosting their homecoming with a team that could realistically score 100 points on you. What are they thinking?

Let's see wake up, pour the can of dumb a@@ on you, and then make HSC homecoming, 

MORONS!
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Quote from: miz on September 19, 2005, 09:58:41 AM
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BLITZ, DAMN IT!!!!.  I hate to say this but right now we're just plain soft on that side of the ball.
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Hate to say this, but we tried to against Hanover.  Their offensive line was pretty darn good when Webster (Hanover QB) sat in the pocket for more than three seconds.

Blitzes don't work when the opponent immediately throws the ball five yards after the snap.  Webster was very "Manningish" when it came to calling the play once he saw the defense.  

Sure, we can get on the BC defense all day about giving up 42 ... but Hanover's offense was sick.  I wouldn't be surprised if they won their conference (actually, I'll be surprised if they don't).
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Matt Barnhart (kid)

I'm starting to think (after being at the first three games) that our defensive backs are coached to not look for the ball.  There is no question we have talent at the DB position, but they never look back for the ball.  Maybe that's a technique, I don't know.  What I do know is that our guys 9 times out of 10 are always with/on the receivers ... rarely do they get beat.  I just know versus Hanover, Webster was deadly accurate and didn't make the receivers work much ... he put it where it needed to be.  Some of his touchdowns made you just sit there in amazement ... very impressive.
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Hug

Very 2001esque wouldn't you say.  8)

Outsider14

Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on September 19, 2005, 01:27:25 PM
I'm starting to think (after being at the first three games) that our defensive backs are coached to not look for the ball.

i've known some DB coaches that teach that way. reason being when you turn to look for the ball, you lose your man (and sometimes the second you turn your head the ball goes by into the receivers hands in which case you lose the ball AND your man AND the tackle = big play)... these coaches (and i don't know if coach raeford teaches this technique) teach to play the receiver's eyes and hands. when he reaches for the ball the DB is taught to either stick his arm/hand between the receiver's arms/hands, or to push up on the nearest elbow, forcing one hand away from the other.
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