FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[beenhit2hard]

K Mack ,, I was at the  Wesley game today also,,sorry I missed you. I am now coaching with the Chincoteague Ponies,,a little different than my former job,,where will you be next saturday ??

[CNU85]

A D2 school was Southern VA!! 70 Points.

NAIA

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Been looking through the box scores from the ODAC games ...

Josh Vogelbach (QB from Guilford) had 417 passing yards and 8 touchdowns against Southern Virginia.

According the scoring summary, the Quakers were still throwing the ball (at least) midway through the third quarter even though they were up by 30 points.  That's when Vogelbach got his eighth TD.

Here are some other "stat stuffers"...

BC's Phillip Carter had five rushing touchdowns.  That set the college record.

RMC's Zak Thornton ran the ball 36 times.

HSC rushed for 12 yards on 27 carries (0.4 yards per carry).

[abnrgr]

Thanks 85 but I thought their sight said D2.

GC-Q smitting a NAIA school does sound much much more plausible.

Matt is probably right as I think he alluded to them just running it for the records. Thats what I thought he said but it sounds like that to me.

However, not to beat a dead horse I do remember an on side kick in 1999 with BC leading by 50. I guess it's just the state of the 21st century.

[hasanova]

Congratulations to the ODAC teams for their good start to the season!  I'm sorry HSC dropped a close one and I believe W&L gets underway next week, but that still leaves us at 5-1 after the first Saturday. 

I just got back from Raleigh where Central Florida took it to NCSU and hung on, 25-23.  State had a drive in the closing minute to get in FG range, but couldn't get it done.  A big shout goes out to all my friends from Appalachian State!  Wow!

I also just took a look at the Guilford/SVU box.  Vogelbach was 27-35 for 417 yards and 8 passing TDs (also threw three 2-point conversions) and only one interception.  The eight passing TDs set new GC (old was his own 6 last year versus Ferrum) and ODAC (J. D. Ricca had 7) records.  Incredibly, this gives Vogelbach 77 passing TDs and 5 rushing TDs in 21 games - 82 total.  Two of the last three scores today for the Quakers were on the ground.  I realize GCQ might be criticized for "piling on", but there were over 23 minutes left in the game when they stopped passing.  The defense gave up 510 yards today and, with GC's defensive history, I think it's reasonable to assume even a 30-point lead is vulnerable.  One other note, the 70 points today were the most for Guilford since a 79-0 victory over East Carolina in 1932.

Clearly, tougher competition is ahead, but it's obvious Air Guilford is up and away in 2007!  Six Quakers caught passes today and six Quakers scored TDs.  Senior Defensive man Bryan Cook also returned a blocked SVU PAT for a 2-point score.  Bryan, if you're reading this, I'll make sure my nephew knows his HS classmate had a good day!   

[CNU85]

Thanks 85 but I thought their sight said D2.

GC-Q smitting a NAIA school does sound much much more plausible.

Matt is probably right as I think he alluded to them just running it for the records. Thats what I thought he said but it sounds like that to me.

However, not to beat a dead horse I do remember an on side kick in 1999 with BC leading by 50. I guess it's just the state of the 21st century.

NAIA has divisions, too. Perhaps we are both right...NAIA Division 2.

[Bwana]

Hopkins blocks a FG with 6 seconds left to hold on and beat Hampden-Sydney 17-16.  HSU missed an XP earler in the game.

Oh yikes, what a brutal way to lose.

Yep, about the only worse way is if a good stiff wind blows in at the wrong moment. 

[hasanova]

Hopkins blocks a FG with 6 seconds left to hold on and beat Hampden-Sydney 17-16.  HSU missed an XP earler in the game.

Oh yikes, what a brutal way to lose.

Yep, about the only worse way is if a good stiff wind blows in at the wrong moment. 

I agree - a tough way to lose.  Although it didn't lose the game in the first OT, a FG attempt in last year's "Souper" Bowl did keep Greensboro from winning.  The Pride's kick bounced off the top of the right upright.  By rule, that kick was no good and Guilford went on to win 36-30 in the 2nd OT on a Vogelbach to Barnette 25-yard TD pass.  It was something I'd never seen before.

[muchacho]

Congrats to Catholic for getting a win to start the season against Shenandoah. It certainly wasn't pretty, but they got it done in the end. The score could have been a lot more in Catholic's favor, but the execution wasn't there.

CUA's defense looked good. Their front 7 was very good. They put good pressure on Shenadoah's QB, and held a strong running team to just 2.7 YPC. The secondary came up big with 3 interceptions in the second half, but they did give up 2 big plays for 111 yards in the first. It was impressive that after giving up those 2 big plays, they were able to hold Shenandoah to 2 FGs.

Offensively Catholic looked mediocre. Keith Ricca was throwing behind some of his receivers, and could have been better. However, his receivers dropped some balls, and one of those turned into an interception. Shenandoah's defense looked pretty good, and they didn't make a lot of mistakes in the secondary. When they did blow a coverage, Ricca hit Buis for the game winner. Buis looked very good at receiver, although he doesn't have great size to go up for difficult balls. Catholic's running game still isn't great, but looks improved over years where they couldn't do anything at all. Most of the running came from freshman, because thats a position Catholic doesn't have depth at.

Catholic was 0-5 in the Red Zone. The lack of a solid running game is probably the biggest reason for that. They ended up missing 3 field goals, which is pathetic. With 5 Red Zone opportunities, this game could have been a blowout. Hopefully Catholic will improve their playcalling and execution, because games won't be easy to win this year.
RMC winning big is a big surprise, and EHC is obviously on a much higher level now. Catholic will need to raise their level of play in order to have a decent finish in the ODAC.

[Olinemom]

Hopkins blocks a FG with 6 seconds left to hold on and beat Hampden-Sydney 17-16.  HSU missed an XP earler in the game.

Oh yikes, what a brutal way to lose.

Yep, about the only worse way is if a good stiff wind blows in at the wrong moment. 

or at the exact right moment!!

[Menowannalickee U.]

As an ODAC fan and a BC fan, I'd like to say good job to both!  But I'd really like to give kudos to CNU for opening the season with such a tough schedule.  Rowan week 1 and Mary Hardin Baylor week 2!!  Talk about setting your team up to know what its like to play quality, playoff ready teams.  I wish BC would get back to playing a tougher out of conference schedule.  Anyone know the reason they got away from that?  I thought coach Clark liked getting the team prepared for those late season tough opponents...

[Uncle Jessie]

Hey CUA fans. I just wanted to write after being at the game on Saturday how great, excellent, fantastic your field turf looked down on your football field. I wish SU would dish out the money to upgrade to field turf. Shentel Stadium would then be a A++ stadium and would really help in recruiting I'm sure. Has any other school in the ODAC made the decision to install field turf in the near future anyone know? One school Im surprised has not done it yet is Bridgewater. Any news on that?

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

[...] I wish BC would get back to playing a tougher out of conference schedule.  Anyone know the reason they got away from that?  I thought coach Clark liked getting the team prepared for those late season tough opponents...

McDaniel, Shenandoah, and Ferrum, used to be good.

McDaniel was a playoff team in 2001, Shenandoah was a playoff team in 2004, and Ferrum in 2005.  Clark can't control if and when a program begins to fall.

And I think there is something to be said for playing Hanover and LaGrange.  In the playoffs, you may have to travel 500-plus miles.  Hanover was just over that, and our trip to LaGrange this year will be nearly 600 miles.

But I see what you're saying.  There's no question that playing tougher non-conference opponents can help prepare you for the playoffs.  But I think Snakehandler once said on these boards, "it won't matter if you're prepared for the playoffs if you don't make them."  That happened to CNU in 2005.

I also remember hearing Coach Bowden (of Clemson) say on ESPN Radio the other week that, even though he enjoys playing a great school to begin the season (like he will with FSU), he'd much rather play a team he knows (or thinks) he can beat.

I think that can be said for Division III, and the non-conference opponents.  You certainly don't want to play a bunch of cupcakes, but you also don't want to get in over your head, and schedule two to three playoff teams to begin the season.

The first couple games of the season shouldn't gage whether or not you're a playoff team.  But if you lose one or two, and get upset in a conference game down the road, then those early season losses dictated your playoff fate.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

[...] Has any other school in the ODAC made the decision to install field turf in the near future anyone know? One school Im surprised has not done it yet is Bridgewater. Any news on that?

There's no way we will go to field turf.  We have a Division I-A surface with the bermuda grass.  Our grounds people had it in excellent shape for this weekend's game.

Having a synthetic surface sounds all fancy and great, but you can have something just as good, and for a lot less.  Virginia Tech and Purdue University seem to think so.

[Menowannalickee U.]

Snakehandler once said on these boards, "it won't matter if you're prepared for the playoffs if you don't make them."  That happened to CNU in 2005.

Ya, but by that rationale does it matter if you make the playoffs if you aren't prepared for them?  And CNU not making the playoffs wasn't because of their ooc schedule.  But regardless I'm sure Clark will have them ready for each and every game this year, including the playoffs if they make it!  They looked good Saturday so I'm just excited about a great season and hoping there isn't a huge letdown if they play a really strong playoff team.