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Scots13

Quote from: narch on September 26, 2013, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 26, 2013, 03:12:50 PMNance would not be able to help out UT this year.
scout team qb's can only help so much, right :)

Exactly. It's not like he was Peyton before he transferred.
But there are people down here wishing Condredge Holloway (or Todd Helton since he's retired?) could come back for UT. It's THAT crazy down by the river.  :'(
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TO THE HILL!

hasanova

The beatdown by Washington was an eye-opener for UT!

tigerfanalso

The conversation around the HSC qb was beat to death last year and he was voted first team ODAC. Everybody has an opinion. There is lots of football left to be played. Time will tell which ODAC qb is the best but not until the entire season plays itself out. If the E&H qb continues on his current "hot streak" he will certainly be in the conversation when the votes are cast for all conference honors but will be judged on the full body of work; not just the first 3 games. I have a feeling several other ODAC qb's will be in the mix. The qb's at RMC and GC are pretty outstanding as well.   

jknezek

Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
The conversation around the HSC qb was beat to death last year and he was voted first team ODAC. Everybody has an opinion. There is lots of football left to be played. Time will tell which ODAC qb is the best but not until the entire season plays itself out. If the E&H qb continues on his current "hot streak" he will certainly be in the conversation when the votes are cast for all conference honors but will be judged on the full body of work; not just the first 3 games. I have a feeling several other ODAC qb's will be in the mix. The qb's at RMC and GC are pretty outstanding as well.

Yep. Anyone who doesn't respect Nance is going to get burned. But as pass happy as H-SC, R-MC, E&H and Catholic are, that could go for a bunch of guys in the ODAC. Considering Bridgewater's qb has started well, and GC's qb was newcomer of the year last year, the QB position in the ODAC is impressive.

We're going tailgating at a Birmingham Southern game this weekend in our old motor home. I went yesterday after work to the store to get tailgating supplies. Brought home chips, dip, soda, american cheese, bacon,  hotdogs and bratwurst. My wife asked what the bacon was for and I told her I was going to wrap some hotdogs and bratwurst with it while I cooked them before laying on some cheese. I've been threatening this for years, and she looked at me in disbelief before calling State Farm to up the life insurance on me.

Here's to a good weekend with good games and no injuries!

wasper68

Quote from: jknezek on September 27, 2013, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
The conversation around the HSC qb was beat to death last year and he was voted first team ODAC. Everybody has an opinion. There is lots of football left to be played. Time will tell which ODAC qb is the best but not until the entire season plays itself out. If the E&H qb continues on his current "hot streak" he will certainly be in the conversation when the votes are cast for all conference honors but will be judged on the full body of work; not just the first 3 games. I have a feeling several other ODAC qb's will be in the mix. The qb's at RMC and GC are pretty outstanding as well.

Yep. Anyone who doesn't respect Nance is going to get burned. But as pass happy as H-SC, R-MC, E&H and Catholic are, that could go for a bunch of guys in the ODAC. Considering Bridgewater's qb has started well, and GC's qb was newcomer of the year last year, the QB position in the ODAC is impressive.

We're going tailgating at a Birmingham Southern game this weekend in our old motor home. I went yesterday after work to the store to get tailgating supplies. Brought home chips, dip, soda, american cheese, bacon,  hotdogs and bratwurst. My wife asked what the bacon was for and I told her I was going to wrap some hotdogs and bratwurst with it while I cooked them before laying on some cheese. I've been threatening this for years, and she looked at me in disbelief before calling State Farm to up the life insurance on me.

Here's to a good weekend with good games and no injuries!

Sounds great.  Let us know how it turns out. 

hasanova

Quote from: wasper68 on September 27, 2013, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 27, 2013, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
The conversation around the HSC qb was beat to death last year and he was voted first team ODAC. Everybody has an opinion. There is lots of football left to be played. Time will tell which ODAC qb is the best but not until the entire season plays itself out. If the E&H qb continues on his current "hot streak" he will certainly be in the conversation when the votes are cast for all conference honors but will be judged on the full body of work; not just the first 3 games. I have a feeling several other ODAC qb's will be in the mix. The qb's at RMC and GC are pretty outstanding as well.
Yep. Anyone who doesn't respect Nance is going to get burned. But as pass happy as H-SC, R-MC, E&H and Catholic are, that could go for a bunch of guys in the ODAC. Considering Bridgewater's qb has started well, and GC's qb was newcomer of the year last year, the QB position in the ODAC is impressive.

We're going tailgating at a Birmingham Southern game this weekend in our old motor home. I went yesterday after work to the store to get tailgating supplies. Brought home chips, dip, soda, american cheese, bacon,  hotdogs and bratwurst. My wife asked what the bacon was for and I told her I was going to wrap some hotdogs and bratwurst with it while I cooked them before laying on some cheese. I've been threatening this for years, and she looked at me in disbelief before calling State Farm to up the life insurance on me.

Here's to a good weekend with good games and no injuries!

Sounds great.  Let us know how it turns out.
Give us an update on your cholesterol as well.  :)

tigerfanalso

Jk

Sounds like a fun time. What time should I show up ???

Don't let her up the life insurance on you. You never want to be worth dead than you are alive !!!!

Good luck to all this weekend. HSC can't get beat and I get to play golf. Perfect, stress free weekend.


hasanova

Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
Jk

Sounds like a fun time. What time should I show up ???

Don't let her up the life insurance on you. You never want to be worth (more) dead than you are alive !!!!
Good luck to all this weekend. HSC can't get beat and I get to play golf. Perfect, stress free weekend.
Heck, I don't even tell anyone I have a gold tooth!   :-X  Oops!

jknezek

Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
Jk

Sounds like a fun time. What time should I show up ???
Don't let her up the life insurance on you. You never want to be worth dead than you are alive !!!!

Good luck to all this weekend. HSC can't get beat and I get to play golf. Perfect, stress free weekend.

Whenever you want TFA. I'll be out there early in my ancient motor home and the rest of the family will be along later. With three small kids, my wife doesn't dare kill me off for the money!

My cholesterol is fine going in, and I am eating a salad right now for lunch and will probably be doing the same for dinner tonight and tomorrow! But in between, it's going to get ugly.

narch

Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
The conversation around the HSC qb was beat to death last year and he was voted first team ODAC. Everybody has an opinion. There is lots of football left to be played. Time will tell which ODAC qb is the best but not until the entire season plays itself out. If the E&H qb continues on his current "hot streak" he will certainly be in the conversation when the votes are cast for all conference honors but will be judged on the full body of work; not just the first 3 games. I have a feeling several other ODAC qb's will be in the mix. The qb's at RMC and GC are pretty outstanding as well.
...and the conversation this year was started in direct response to a question about his viability as an sec qb...i haven't seen anyone who has said nance was anything other than an outstanding d3 qb and one of the best in the odac

by the way, that "hot streak" that boden is on dates back much further than just the 3 games this year...over the last 13 games, compare the numbers:

boden: 3,488 passing yards, 67.2 comp %, 29 td, 9 int, team record 9-4 (3-4)
nance:  3,670 passing yards, 61.7 comp %, 30 td, 17 int, team record 8-5 (4-3)

there is a total of 182 yards (14 yards/game) and 1 td separating them, but nance has a much lower completion % and has thrown 12 more interceptions

if you want to stretch boden even further, for his career as a starter he has averaged 263 yards per game (282 for nance), completed 65.9% of his throws and thrown 50 td's and 17 int (the same number that nance has thrown in 13 career games)

i'm not sure i'd call that a "hot streak"...maybe that's a "hot 2 years and 3 games"

y_jack_lok

Quote from: jknezek on September 27, 2013, 11:18:39 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 27, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
The conversation around the HSC qb was beat to death last year and he was voted first team ODAC. Everybody has an opinion. There is lots of football left to be played. Time will tell which ODAC qb is the best but not until the entire season plays itself out. If the E&H qb continues on his current "hot streak" he will certainly be in the conversation when the votes are cast for all conference honors but will be judged on the full body of work; not just the first 3 games. I have a feeling several other ODAC qb's will be in the mix. The qb's at RMC and GC are pretty outstanding as well.

Yep. Anyone who doesn't respect Nance is going to get burned. But as pass happy as H-SC, R-MC, E&H and Catholic are, that could go for a bunch of guys in the ODAC. Considering Bridgewater's qb has started well, and GC's qb was newcomer of the year last year, the QB position in the ODAC is impressive.

We're going tailgating at a Birmingham Southern game this weekend in our old motor home. I went yesterday after work to the store to get tailgating supplies. Brought home chips, dip, soda, american cheese, bacon,  hotdogs and bratwurst. My wife asked what the bacon was for and I told her I was going to wrap some hotdogs and bratwurst with it while I cooked them before laying on some cheese. I've been threatening this for years, and she looked at me in disbelief before calling State Farm to up the life insurance on me.

Here's to a good weekend with good games and no injuries!

R-MC's 2013 season stats for 3 games show 132 rushing attempts and 73 passing attempts. Does that constitute being pass happy? I don't follow football closely enough to know what is a normal balance between rushing and passing attempts, so just asking for some insight.

hasanova

WIth 24.3 pass attempts per game and 65% runs at RMC, I certainly wouldn't call that "pass happy".  When Vogelbach was at Guilford, that was more like 50-75 passes per game ... now that was pass happy!  I don't see how you could be considered a predominately pass-oriented team unless more than 50% of your plays are a pass attempt.

jknezek

Quote from: y_jack_lok on September 27, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
R-MC's 2013 season stats for 3 games show 132 rushing attempts and 73 passing attempts. Does that constitute being pass happy? I don't follow football closely enough to know what is a normal balance between rushing and passing attempts, so just asking for some insight.

Nope it's not. That's actually a pretty good rushing game. Of course, when you are looking at it through a W&L supporter's eyes, it sure looks pass happy to me!

And I take it back, looking at last season R-MC had 511 rushing attempts and 222 passing attempts. Looks the same in the previous years. So I'll strike my coment about being pass happy and give you a +K. Somehow when I think of R-MC, I think of Naccarato being in charge of a passing attack. I guess I should re-think that.

HSCTiger fan

...i haven't seen anyone who has said nance was anything other than an outstanding d3 qb and one of the best in the odac - Narch

Ok your right. No one has said that. So to help you feel better here goes: 

Nash Nance is a great college football player that would start for most D1, D2, NAIA, and D3 teams including EVERY ODAC team except WL.  But even there he'd come in the 4 times a game they throw the football.

Instead of trying to find fault, Nash should be applauded. He wanted to start at QB and play football. Maybe that was not in the cards for him at UT.  He chose education over football.

He cannot and should not have to defend his playing ability or his decision on where he chose to play.  We are happy he chose HSC but not just because of his abilities at QB (which are awesome) but also because of what a great teammate and leader he is (which is even more awesome).  There are 8 starting QBs in the ODAC.  If the other 7 provide the leadership and commitment to team that Nash provides they are all winners.

I see it all the time on this board that D3 guys play for the love of the game.  Maybe it's different at Methodist where your team consistently recruits 100+ freshmen and only has 10-12 seniors.
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narch

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 27, 2013, 03:29:42 PM
...i haven't seen anyone who has said nance was anything other than an outstanding d3 qb and one of the best in the odac - Narch

Ok your right. No one has said that. So to help you feel better here goes: 

Nash Nance is a great college football player that would start for most D1, D2, NAIA, and D3 teams including EVERY ODAC team except WL.  But even there he'd come in the 4 times a game they throw the football.

Instead of trying to find fault, Nash should be applauded. He wanted to start at QB and play football. Maybe that was not in the cards for him at UT.  He chose education over football.

He cannot and should not have to defend his playing ability or his decision on where he chose to play.  We are happy he chose HSC but not just because of his abilities at QB (which are awesome) but also because of what a great teammate and leader he is (which is even more awesome).  There are 8 starting QBs in the ODAC.  If the other 7 provide the leadership and commitment to team that Nash provides they are all winners.

I see it all the time on this board that D3 guys play for the love of the game.  Maybe it's different at Methodist where your team consistently recruits 100+ freshmen and only has 10-12 seniors.
testy much?? I don't like the mu roster model any more than you do, but I don't see how the mu roster is in any way germane to the conversation at hand...perhaps it makes you feel better about yourself and your school to belittle the way other schools operate, but I think it makes you seem pompous

I don't recall finding fault with nance...in fact I've said numerous times that he was an outstanding d3 qb (feel free to read my previous posts) - apparently pointing out reality  (he isnt an sec qb) equates to finding fault in your book - I think you're delusional if you think he could start for most d1 programs, though...17 int in 13 d3 games isn't a d1 starter at most d1 programs - I'm not sure he would start for every team in the odac...boden is better than him on paper in my opinion - I wouldn't expect nance to defend his play or his decision...in fact I commend his decision, but I can tell you sight unseen that he wouldn't start for any sec school