FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[TheEHC52]

I can honestly say that the majority of us alumni are shocked about the allegations and everyone I have talked to was unaware that anything of this sort was going on.  The timing for the news to get released doesn't make sense, nor how it got out.  If you do a social media search on the kid, he is very (or at least appears to be) very pro-Emory.

I played for Emory from 2003-2006.  I know that in the 2005 and 2006 seasons, after Montgomery took over for Wacker, there wasn't anybody getting that type of "scholarship."  I can't speak to the seasons after that.  Regardless, whether true or not, all of this is highly embarrassing and doesn't help Coach Newsome in turning the program around.

[TheEHC52]

It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

[jknezek]

It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

What a mess.

[wally_wabash]

THAT is fascinating.  And scary as all get out.  There's no way that this is the only place stuff like this happens.  So did they release the transcripts and let the kid enroll at USC or what? 

But don't you also get a sense of false entitlement from that letter?  Not every kid that transfers from D-I is Brett Elliott.  Most aren't actually.  But my guess is that pretty much every kid (and said kid's parents) who transfer from D-I think they are Brett Elliott.  "My kid got recruited by D-I schools and he's not even a starter for your piddly D-III team?  Basura!"  The letter probably could have gone without that trope. 

[Scots13]

I got that entitlement sense when I read it, too. I did a quick google search on him and there's a nathandorton.com. (Doesn't surprise me too much after reading the letter)
There is a measurables list with:
Height: 5'9
Weight: 180
40: 4.59
Vert: 30
Bench: 5 reps.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that make him look (on paper) like a D3 guy anyway? Small guy and with speed that doesn't necessarily set the world on fire?

Let's contrast Dorton's numbers with Cody Pearcy, WR Huntingdon '12 (Pro Day at Alabama State)
Height: 5'10
Weight: 162
40: 4.31 
Vert: 44
Bench: N/A

Point of all this: Why was this guy at App State, anyway? I've seen plenty of guys that went D1 that didn't see the field and should have gone D3 and I've seen the guys that went D3 with a D1 attitude. This guy probably should have gone to a D2/3 school anyway and been better for it.

Transferred from App State to E&H and didn't break records? Woe is you.
I'll assume the father knew all this back door dealing was illegal and couldn't be as gullible as to believe it was all a dream come true. C'mon man.

If all this true, as the Dortons say, shame on Montgomery and the rest of the Athletics Department at E&H.

[tigerfanalso]

Did the kid go to App. St. as a walk on ? Did he ever play(game) at App. St. ?  Where was he on the depth chart @ App. St. ?

I think those answers will explain why he didn't play much @ E&H.  Very strange situation/story and I've got to believe fabricated somewhat. Two sides to every story !!!

[Scots13]

Did the kid go to App. St. as a walk on ? Did he ever play(game) at App. St. ?  Where was he on the depth chart @ App. St. ?

I think those answers will explain why he didn't play much @ E&H.  Very strange situation/story and I've got to believe fabricated somewhat. Two sides to every story !!!

All valid questions. Another question...Does being on the 3's or 4's/walk on for the FCS NATIONAL CHAMPION directly correlate into being a D3 All-American? (We know it doesn't, but do most feel this way?)

[TheEHC52]

I'm guessing walk-on:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Nathan-Dorton-83453

But this says signed:

http://www.athlete-advantage.net/page/show/598785-meet-athlete-advantage

Regardless, his college TOTALS (as set forth on his father's business website) were 15 catches for 131 yards and 2 TDs.

[TheEHC52]

Then there's this tweet this morning from Dorton:

"TenaciousD17: Haha, I'm the one getting the last laugh...all because I kept my composure and did my job. Some people in this world just don't get it. #17"

https://twitter.com/tenaciousd17/status/439046676696027136

[Mr. Ypsi]

Did the kid go to App. St. as a walk on ? Did he ever play(game) at App. St. ?  Where was he on the depth chart @ App. St. ?

I think those answers will explain why he didn't play much @ E&H.  Very strange situation/story and I've got to believe fabricated somewhat. Two sides to every story !!!

All valid questions. Another question...Does being on the 3's or 4's/walk on for the FCS NATIONAL CHAMPION directly correlate into being a D3 All-American? (We know it doesn't, but do most feel this way?)

Since most who know nothing about d3 think it is basically hs fb or glorified intramurals, probably yes.

[Scots13]

I'm guessing walk-on:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Nathan-Dorton-83453

But this says signed:

http://www.athlete-advantage.net/page/show/598785-meet-athlete-advantage

Regardless, his college TOTALS (as set forth on his father's business website) were 15 catches for 131 yards and 2 TDs.

It says signed with App State, but then again it says the other son signed with Stevenson (a D3 school, so what exactly did he sign other than academic papers or the envelope with his deposit in it?). This is probably a case of an overly prideful father.

It's ok to be proud of your son, but to think your son's stuff don't stink is another thing.

[hasanova]

It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

What a mess.

That's a fairly revealing letter, wouldn't you say?

[jknezek]

It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

What a mess.

That's a fairly revealing letter, wouldn't you say?

Well it's a comprehensive complaint from one side of the story. Personally it made me cringe both from the behavior that E&H was accused of as well as the tone the parent used. Others pointed out the sense of entitlement in the tone and I completely agree. On the other hand, the hard sell tactics described, the promises, the behavior of alumni and staff, are all things we simply dread making its way into D3...

[tigerfanalso]

I doubt seriously if the alumni had much to do with this situation at all simply because the kid was not very good. Not like he was an AA or all odac player, hardly played evidently, had no resume coming out of App St, and frankly was an average HS player according to his bio. I think this is much to do about nothing, at least I hope so.

[wildcat11]

It appears Mr. Dorton isn't as pro-Emory as social media would lead one to believe:

http://ehcwhitetopper.wordpress.com/dortons-letter/

What a mess.

That's a fairly revealing letter, wouldn't you say?

Well it's a comprehensive complaint from one side of the story. Personally it made me cringe both from the behavior that E&H was accused of as well as the tone the parent used. Others pointed out the sense of entitlement in the tone and I completely agree. On the other hand, the hard sell tactics described, the promises, the behavior of alumni and staff, are all things we simply dread making its way into D3...

Mr. Dorton's letter had me until the "on-field standpoint" paragraph.     His letter is signed as Founder of "Athlete Advantage" so I plopped that into the Google machine and this is what's there: 

http://www.athlete-advantage.net/

Who is Athlete Advantage?

Athlete Advantage is a sports promotion service that specializes in providing high school players with opportunities to earn scholarships from universities and colleges all across the country. AA has contact with at least 600 schools  in each sport across the nation ranging from Division 3 to FBS level, and even NAIA. Athlete Advantage will help you get recruited and find the right school!

Here at AA we strive to make sure we build relationships with our clients. To most recruiting services clients are only numbers. We view our clients as opportunities to change lives. We genuinely care about promoting high school kids who just want a chance to play at the next level.

The groundwork for Athlete Advantage began in 2009.  The very first Athlete Advantage client is a wide reciever that signed at Appalachian State. After many years of refinement, Athlete Advantage officially launched in August of 2011. Every player that has signed with AA has received multiple inquiries from schools in our database. You will be known.

You would think that someone who's business it is in helping place high school athletes in colleges ranging from "the bottom of the NCAA ladder" D3 to D1 would be more deft in handling the recruitment of his son.   As he pointed out in his letter there was money made available to his son that he knew wasn't on the level but he was more than willing to take it.