FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[D3MAFAN]

ODAC has gotten 2 spots in the playoffs before. CUA and RMC in 2008 and WL and HSC in 2010. Both times the ODAC runner up was 9-1.  With so few at large spots available there's little room for a conference runner up - especially one that is 8-2.

Catholic didn't make the playoffs in 2008.

I assumed they did because of their record of 9-2.

It was probably a post-season game sponsored by the ECAC.

They beat Johns Hopkins that year I believe in a close one. I wonder if other teams in the south/north would join the ECAC, it is always good to see the Seniors get an extra game.

[tigerfanalso]

I think the HSC defense does not get its due, even from many HSC fans. I hear all the talk about no sacks, etc., GC came into this game scoring a ton of points (not sure the number and not going to look it up). I'll make a wager HSC held GC below its average. Next year HSC will certainly miss Nance, Walker and others on offense. Those that feel the 2014 HSC defense is not very good, will realize just how good it is next season when most of the starters are no longer playing.

Hasa

Fun game to watch, I know you are disappointed. I was a little surprized GC-Quakers didn't go for 2 to win the game, I'm happy they didn't because I thought that could have been the best opportunity for GC to win. I'm sure your coach felt he had such an advantage in the kicking game that he wanted to get to OT and take his chances and I understand that as well.
Quackers have a good team and I think ya'll fight it out with E&H next year for the odac. Good luck Saturday.

[hasanova]

I think the HSC defense does not get its due, even from many HSC fans. I hear all the talk about no sacks, etc., GC came into this game scoring a ton of points (not sure the number and not going to look it up). I'll make a wager HSC held GC below its average. Next year HSC will certainly miss Nance, Walker and others on offense. Those that feel the 2014 HSC defense is not very good, will realize just how good it is next season when most of the starters are no longer playing.

Hasa

Fun game to watch, I know you are disappointed. I was a little surprized GC-Quakers didn't go for 2 to win the game, I'm happy they didn't because I thought that could have been the best opportunity for GC to win. I'm sure your coach felt he had such an advantage in the kicking game that he wanted to get to OT and take his chances and I understand that as well.
Quackers have a good team and I think ya'll fight it out with E&H next year for the odac. Good luck Saturday.

Thanks.  It's not just this game, but the 15 in a row.  You would think a reasonably competitive team could break through once in that period.  GC came into the game averaging 40.9 ppg.  There was talk in the stands about going for two as well.  I think I would have tried it ... it seems like a 50/50 proposition either way - i.e. going for two and chances in OT.  Perhaps it was because the Quakers had already shown a 2-point set earlier in the game.  Guilford is disappointed ... this team wanted to win the conference and had a shot to do so.  Perhaps 2015 will be our year.  Good luck to the Tigers ... I have a feeling you'll be the lone ODAC rep in the playoffs unless everything falls into place for E&H next week.

[jknezek]

While the focus was rightly on the excellent game in Farmville, that was two competitive teams going at it and both deserve a lot of credit, the other end of the conference was interesting as well. Sadly my Generals just could not pull it off. Three winnable road games this year, Averett, Sewanee, and Catholic that W&L led in the fourth quarter and couldn't close out. Disappointing. The young Generals need to learn how to win. I really hope it doesn't take them too long to figure it out.

[tigerfanalso]

Hasa

I think 2015 could be the year for the Quackers. Good group of athletes, not many seniors.

Having watched GC and E&H play this year, I think that game will be a good match up for the Quakers. I think your QB/receivers will be able to expose the DB's, assuming the kids can get excited about playing the game.

You've seen RMC. How do you think The Game will play out ? I'll ask same info from JK later in the week.

[hasanova]

Hasa

I think 2015 could be the year for the Quackers. Good group of athletes, not many seniors.

Having watched GC and E&H play this year, I think that game will be a good match up for the Quakers. I think your QB/receivers will be able to expose the DB's, assuming the kids can get excited about playing the game.

You've seen RMC. How do you think The Game will play out ? I'll ask same info from JK later in the week.

On RMC versus HSC, I believe HSC should win by 14 or more.  Rivalry games can be unpredicable, however, but HSC is clearly better this year than RMC in my opinion.  With that say, however, the Quakers have to be rooting for the Yellow Jackets to forge ties at 5-2.

[tigerfanalso]

If the odac finishes with 3 teams tied at 5-2, which team goes to the playoffs ? Not sure I would want to be on that team because I believe the selection committee will send them to a really bad place that is cold, windy, nasty, snowy, nobody wants to be there but the home team kinda place. 

[jknezek]

If the odac finishes with 3 teams tied at 5-2, which team goes to the playoffs ? Not sure I would want to be on that team because I believe the selection committee will send them to a really bad place that is cold, windy, nasty, snowy, nobody wants to be there but the home team kinda place.

The ODAC has a very nasty tie-breaking scenario. Someone posted it a few pages back I think, or it can be found on the ODAC site:

http://odaconline.com/information/odac-manual/2014-15/1415-tie-breaking-procedures.pdf

[HSCTiger fan]

If the odac finishes with 3 teams tied at 5-2, which team goes to the playoffs ? Not sure I would want to be on that team because I believe the selection committee will send them to a really bad place that is cold, windy, nasty, snowy, nobody wants to be there but the home team kinda place.

The only only way for a 3 way tie to occur is if Guilford wins and BC and HSC lose. This would leave HSC, EH. and GC each at 5-2. HSC would win the AQ as they have the head to head.

[hasanova]

If the odac finishes with 3 teams tied at 5-2, which team goes to the playoffs ? Not sure I would want to be on that team because I believe the selection committee will send them to a really bad place that is cold, windy, nasty, snowy, nobody wants to be there but the home team kinda place.

The only only way for a 3 way tie to occur is if Guilford wins and BC and HSC lose. This would leave HSC, EH. and GC each at 5-2. HSC would win the AQ as they have the head to head.

If BC wins over CUA, GC wins (E&H loss) and RMC wins (HSC loss), there would be a 4-way tie at 5-2.  That would leave head-to-head:

HSC 2-1 versus the other three (loss to BC)
GC 2-1 versus the other three (loss to HSC)
BC 1-2 versus the other three (losses to GC and E&H)
E&H 1-2 versus the other three (losses to GC and HSC)

Would that still give the title to the Tigers due to head-to-head over the Quakers?

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, that would be my understanding. You drop out BC and E&H from that four-way tie and consider H-SC and Guilford as a two-way tie, broken by head-to-head.

[tigerfanalso]

Hopefully all of that can be avoided with a victory by the Tigers.
Need the victory because I don't think HSC will be very competitive until the 2017 season and I want to see the senior class go out with three odac championships. Several have had that opportunity but none have cashed in on that accomplishment.
The Game is a fun experience for both schools. Scary to play your rival when they have nothing to lose. Beating HSC is all they have to play for meaning we could see lots of gambles taken; if those gambles are successful RMC could win, if they are not, those gambles will blow up in RMC's face.

[hasanova]

Yes, that would be my understanding. You drop out BC and E&H from that four-way tie and consider H-SC and Guilford as a two-way tie, broken by head-to-head.

Unfortunately, that's what I figured as well.

[hasanova]

Hopefully all of that can be avoided with a victory by the Tigers.
Need the victory because I don't think HSC will be very competitive until the 2017 season and I want to see the senior class go out with three odac championships. Several have had that opportunity but none have cashed in on that accomplishment.
The Game is a fun experience for both schools. Scary to play your rival when they have nothing to lose. Beating HSC is all they have to play for meaning we could see lots of gambles taken; if those gambles are successful RMC could win, if they are not, those gambles will blow up in RMC's face.

If I was RMC, I'd be in "4-down" territory a lot on Saturday.

[GC2005]

Just throwing out a congrats to all of the Tiger Fans today.  I got to listen to a lot of the game on the internet.  I must admit that it was much closer than I thought it would be, and I am very happy to hear that.  I am never happy to hear that GC lost, but I think HSC was the team to beat this year.  I am hopeful that the GC players now know they can hang with anyone in the ODAC.  I will go on to say that I think HSC shouldn't have much trouble with RMC.  However, Tigerfanalso has already summed it up.  We may see some gambles on RMC's end, but we'll have to wait and see how that plays out. 

Hopefully, if Guilford goes in to the E&H game prepared we will see another good one.  E&H is doing great this year and they appear to have turned things around.  We are mulling over being able to make the drive up there, unfortunately the list of tasks around the house has mounted.

JK,

I think your Gennies gained a lot of valuable experience this year, so watch out, they may be right back in the mix next year.  Sometimes folks tend to forget just how valuable experience is when it comes to football.  However, I know I'm just repeating things that you already know.