FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[HSCTiger fan]

Haha, he's not? Ok, if you say so. What you're about to see out of HSC this year would have happened in 2012 before he backed into the transfer QB. They went 6-4 that season but, would have been 3-7 at best. 8-2 in 2013 and would have been 4-6 and 7-3 last year and would have been 3-7 again. No conference championships there. By the way, the only thing you took from my last post is that he finalizes his gameplan on Saturday?

That's funny. Let's rewrite history. IF WL had not gotten Luke Heinsohn they don't win the ODAC in 2012. IF CNU had not landed Morast they don't win their conference last year. IF Guilford had not fired their last coach and not hired Rusiewicz they're still the worst team in the ODAC.  IF in 13 HSC doesn't have 8 turnovers at CNU (5 ints from that QB they backed into) HSC easily wins that game. NONE of that happen.  UrbanSaban that's the most unusual argument I've ever read. Which is saying something considering some of my OWN posts.

But wait it's gets more odd!  I mean I don't want to miss any of your thought provoking points. You mean Coach doesn't ride the bus or eat with the team on the road?  Wow. Thanks for that earth shattering news! Are you insinuating he doesn't like buses and crowded dining rooms?  First, it's a college for MEN not boys. They don't need a bus or dining room monitor. Second, who cares? 

As far as finalizing game plans on Saturdays. Well if that's true, it works for HSC. EVERY player that has played 4 years at HSC since 2006 has TWO ODAC CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS. The class of 2014 has THREE!

Coach if you're reading this don't change one damn thing!

[Scots13]

Haha, he's not? Ok, if you say so. What you're about to see out of HSC this year would have happened in 2012 before he backed into the transfer QB. They went 6-4 that season but, would have been 3-7 at best. 8-2 in 2013 and would have been 4-6 and 7-3 last year and would have been 3-7 again. No conference championships there. By the way, the only thing you took from my last post is that he finalizes his gameplan on Saturday?

   We have GOT to get this guy and HSCTiger fan together.

HAHA! +1

[jknezek]

Haha, he's not? Ok, if you say so. What you're about to see out of HSC this year would have happened in 2012 before he backed into the transfer QB.

Yeah. I can see how a coach doing his job and recruiting new players is a problem. 

By the way, the only thing you took from my last post is that he finalizes his gameplan on Saturday?

No. I just ignored the rest of it. The implication being if coach doesn't ride the bus and eat with the players he isn't doing his job. Of course, with 3 of the last 4 ODAC championships I can see how you would imply Coach Favret is alienating his players in such a way they simply quit on him! I get it completely. Maybe he can teach other coaches how to get their kids to quit playing hard in such a way to only have 2 under .500 seasons in his 15 year HSC tenure? I think other coaches would certainly be interested in having their kids play that poorly...

[SaintsFAN]

I remember my OC installing a screen the Minnesota Vikings ran on a Monday Night Football Game.  It was off of play-action... anyhow, it worked great and we won the game. 

Nothing wrong with installing something you see on TV in the NFL.

[UrbanSaban]

Thanks Tiger Fan. I'm not insinuating that he doesn't like crowded dining rooms or riding the bus, I'm saying that is the job of the head coach when you sign up for the job. Just because it might be an inconvenience doesn't mean you don't do it. You are right, it is indeed a college of all guys so, why do any of the coaches need to ride the bus or eat with the team? I'm sure those guys weren't very manly when the bus broke down or the wheels came off the bus on the way to Emory. My apologies to the board for such an absurd thought that the head coach might actually travel and eat with the team. I'm guessing that 99.7% of the other head coaches in the country actually travel and eat with their players. I'm guessing HSC's stringent admission standards factor in all of this somehow, right?

Wait, why would Coach Favret or any other coach for that matter be reading this? He has time for that?

Regardless Tiger Fan and JK, I guess we'll see how this season plays out.

[jknezek]

Regardless Tiger Fan and JK, I guess we'll see how this season plays out.

Not as well as the last few I suspect, but one season is not a career, and Coach Favret's career, so far, is worthy of respect. Even if I hope the next bit doesn't go as well as his last 15 years...

[hasanova]

8.  W&L - went often in the 90's and again in 2013 ... never personally seen GC lose in Lexington ... VMI's there, two beautiful campuses, stadiums and town.  Disappointed with The Palm two years ago.

I was disappointed with The Palm when I turned 21 many years ago. It's always been the 21 and up drinking establishment in Lex (fake IDs were a guaranteed expulsion honor code violation and Lex is small enough EVERYONE would have known in a hurry), but I never really knew people to go there for the food. Southern Inn was good the last time I was there, about 5 or 6 years ago. That still gets good reviews. Shame Wilson-Walker House closed down. That was always excellent. Bistro on Main is supposed to be good as well but dates after my last visit. Salerno's is the college pizza place. I wouldn't recommend it unless you really want pizza. I suppose it is better than Dominos.

I'll check some of your suggestions when I visit in October.  Thanks. 

[jknezek]

I'll check some of your suggestions when I visit in October.  Thanks.

I'd try for the Southern Inn, but that's just me.

[SaintsFAN]

Expulsion for a fake ID??

[HSCTiger74]

Expulsion for a fake ID??

   I suppose that it would be up to the discretion of the Honor Court how severely to punish violators, but if W&L's code is anything like ours was it specifically says that a student will not cheat, lie or steal, nor tolerate any such action by another student. I guess a fake ID would fall into the category of lying, but jk probably could give a clearer answer.

[HSCTiger fan]

UrbanSaban, what?  Please go find a job description for a head college football coach that states dining with the team or riding the team bus is required.  Maybe he likes to talk strategy, personnel, just be alone. I don't know why you or anyone else would care.  It's meaningless.

You obviously have some connection to HSC. Why try to drag their coach down anonymously on a message board. There's a lot of talk on these boards but seldom attacks on character of players or coaches.  I for one stand by Coach Favret. I could care less if he rides a bus, flys in a plane, in the back of a pick-up, or on a hot air ballon. He's proven he's a winner.

This season may play out as you hope. I doubt it does. But if HSC doesn't win a game this year it won't be because of lack of bus rides and dinners. By the way, I accept your apology.

[jknezek]

Expulsion for a fake ID??

   I suppose that it would be up to the discretion of the Honor Court how severely to punish violators, but if W&L's code is anything like ours was it specifically say that a student will not cheat, lie or steal, nor tolerate any such action by another student. I guess a fake ID would fall into the category of lying, but jk probably could give a clearer answer.

Yes. W&L has one of the strictest honor codes in the country. It simply states students will behave as gentlemen (and gentlewomen since 1986). Every W&L first year signs an honor pledge in Lee Chapel before first semester. All honor offenses have only one punishment, and that is expulsion. The honor code is not limited to lying, cheating and stealing, but most honor violations are classified under those three categories. Honor violations are investigated and heard by an all-student Executive Committee consisting of undergrad and law students, and offenses are prosecuted and defended mainly by the law students, though that is not required. Honor trials are rare, as usually a student will withdraw without a mark on their record before taking it to the Committee, as an expulsion shows on the student transfer record. But when I was there we had a little over one per year on average. Better than 85% of trials result in expulsion as the cases rarely got that far without very strong evidence, but as I said students usually withdrew before facing the trial.

The honor code has massive repercussions on campus. It is extremely strict, and things like fake IDs are almost unheard of for that reason. On the other hand, W&L students enjoy unproctored, self-scheduled exams, even if they are closed book exams. I took many final exams in my dorm room unwatched, and was never tempted to flip through the textbook or my notes for the answer if the test did not allow it. I also remember the joy of scheduling my exams however I wanted. If I felt confident in my classes, I could shotgun them in the first two or three days of the testing period and have a longer break, or space them out over the entire 10 days to provide extra study time. Easy first to warm up, or hard first knowing I'd need to be freshest for the hard ones, the schedule was up to me. If I got to an exam and didn't feel confident, I could back out and reschedule so long as I hadn't started.

Finally, doors were almost never locked. If you left a laptop somewhere to get a bite or forgot it, that laptop was ALWAYS where you left it. Or in lost and found. Find a $20 on the ground? Turn it in. It's not found money, it's someone elses'.

W&L's honor code is well documented and often spoken of in the same breadth as the military academies. It was a wonderful component of life in Lexington, so long as you NEVER found yourself on the wrong side of it. Which really wasn't that hard.

[SaintsFAN]

Finally, doors were almost never locked. If you left a laptop somewhere to get a bite or forgot it, that laptop was ALWAYS where you left it. Or in lost and found. Find a $20 on the ground? Turn it in. It's not found money, it's someone elses'.

Awesome.  I'd love to live in a place where you can leave your doors unlocked.

[UrbanSaban]

Hasa, if you're ever down watching a CNU game take the extra time to visit the Black Angus. You won't regret it.

[Pat Coleman]

Hasa, if you're ever down watching a CNU game take the extra time to visit the Black Angus. You won't regret it.

Gone already?