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allsky7

Seen the Jackets start slow and finish strong too many times. No science behind this call......just gut.......Macon beats Shenny.  :o

Tigers have to stop getting behind in Q1 on TO's.......H-S wins but will be by single digit margin.

E&H beats W&L at home....IMHO Wasp are due for a big win.

Quakes beat CUA by a couple TD's.

.......and MARYVILLE wins D3 NC in Salem over Purple Raiders.  Oh sorry....delusion on wrong board.  ;D

hasanova

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Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 29, 2015, 08:18:46 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2015, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 29, 2015, 02:26:27 PM
Although the upsets can and often do happen in ODAC play last week with the top 4 playing the bottom 4 picking was easy. This week is no different except for EH and WL. Obviously, JK and all General fans are pulling for a win.  EH fans know that it's impossible to win the ODAC if they lose. HSC and GC fans should know that unless WL losses this game and 1 more their title hopes are also dashed. There's a lot of positive energy flowing EH's way.  This game is the biggest game all year for WL. I think they caught GC by surprise and a HSC team still trying to find itself early in the season. No one at GC or HSC thought at the time that WL would be 7-0. But they are and EH knows their only shot is by beating them. It's a huge game for both teams and others within the ODAC. Should be interesting.
I think the Generals played well in the Guilford game, but the concussion to Pawlowski looms large.

Regardless of the QB.  Pawloski is excellent. No one can disagree. But they only scored 3 points when he did play. I bet most of the GC faithful would have thought at that point in the season that GC would win over WL with or without him. GC did back him up with senior QB that did not turn the ball over. That's why I say GC was taken by surprise.

GC have been no where near as dominant as some expected since starting ODAC play.  Looking just at the 3 common opponents the scores between both WL and GC have been similar. GC and WL overwhelmed Averett.  WL beat RMC on the road in a close game while GC blew RMC out at home. Meanwhile WL crushed BC at home while GC won by 3 over BC on the road.

If WL wins the title this year they will have most certainly earned it. Every team has injuries.  It really stinks when it's at a position like QB. If it helps (I know it doesn't) HSC wishes you guys had won at WL too. But it wasn't to be.
Well, there were a couple of factors that day ... the early injury to Pawlowski (GC was up 3-0 and driving), it was raining (favors a running game, I think) and GC missed a 40 plus yard FG and, to their credit, W&L hit a 51 yarder (longest in school history).  I also know Guilford got a letter of apology from the league office for missed calls (I've heard 4) that greatly influenced the outcome.  One was a fumble recovery by GC that the officials said was an incomplete pass after the W&L QB lost it and then batted it and one was on the onside kick recovery (from my vantage point looking straight across the line of scrimmage, I think it went 11 + yards, but it was overturned as being less than 10.)  You say Guilford's back-up is a senior and he is, but that's 4 years of maybe 40 snaps in live games (counting the W&L game).

I am not begrudging W&L ... they have played great.  You can't argue with a team that's 7-0.  I also personally don't think a game by game comparison of scores is always valid ... coaches have different philosophies and the ebb and flow is different based on so many factors.  Do I think Guilford is a better team than W&L?  Yes, I do ... just not on 3-Oct-15 from 1-4 pm.

I still have hope GC can go 9-1 and earn a playoff spot, hopefully with W&L.  I know it's a longshot and if we lose another, so be it.  But I will always think this whole season and the 4-year careers of these great seniors will boil down to an unfortunate concussion that changed the complexion of that game and, with it, their season.  If you're a DI team with one loss, what a great bowl you'd get!

Go Quakers.  Go ODAC.

hasanova

Quote from: allsky7 on October 30, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
Seen the Jackets start slow and finish strong too many times. No science behind this call......just gut.......Macon beats Shenny.  :o

Tigers have to stop getting behind in Q1 on TO's.......H-S wins but will be by single digit margin.

E&H beats W&L at home....IMHO Wasp are due for a big win.

Quakes beat CUA by a couple TD's.

.......and MARYVILLE wins D3 NC in Salem over Purple Raiders.  Oh sorry....delusion on wrong board.  ;D
What are you smoking, allsky7?  lol

ODACInsider

I have a question, hypothetical of course. There are 3 hypothetical student-athletes, two defensive guys and one running back. They all have GPA's that range from 2.3-2.5 and have SAT scores that range from 730-750, obviously none over 800. What ODAC schools can they get admitted to. I understand that they could get into Averett and Ferrum but, ODAC schools? Maybe Shenandoah but, in 2015 what other schools? Also, even if they got in, how could they pay when they would barely be eligible for the minimum academic awards i.e $15,000-17,000. That leaves another $45,000+ give it take to pay. Is there a Ronald McDonald scholarship that pays the rest?

ODACInsider

Ok, leaves adult beverages for they officials in their locker room? Is that better?

duck

ODACoutsider still praying you get the help you need.

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: ODACInsider on October 30, 2015, 10:25:05 PM
I have a question, hypothetical of course. There are 3 hypothetical student-athletes, two defensive guys and one running back. They all have GPA's that range from 2.3-2.5 and have SAT scores that range from 730-750, obviously none over 800. What ODAC schools can they get admitted to. I understand that they could get into Averett and Ferrum but, ODAC schools? Maybe Shenandoah but, in 2015 what other schools? Also, even if they got in, how could they pay when they would barely be eligible for the minimum academic awards i.e $15,000-17,000. That leaves another $45,000+ give it take to pay. Is there a Ronald McDonald scholarship that pays the rest?

Is the answer Bridgewater? 
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: duck on October 30, 2015, 11:16:07 PM
ODACoutsider still praying you get the help you need.

Even his typing is slurred. Here's a great link for ODACInsider to watch http://youtu.be/b9JDPm_QHk4
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

duck


HSCTiger fan

#19074
I'm betting there are some attorneys that went to what ever school ODACInsider is discussing that know a little about Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). They "hypothetically" might know someone who'd be willing to sue your ass on behalf of these students. Heck they might do it for free just to get the publicity. Sure they probably won't win but I wonder what that would do for your opportunity to teach and or coach again. Stop being an idiot. Put down the bottle and go to bed.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

ODACInsider

Guess again Tiger Fan. Not Bridgewater.

ODACInsider

Drop what bottle? You're talking to the wrong person. Maybe some others on that staff? Enjoy the game tomorrow.

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: hasanova on October 30, 2015, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 29, 2015, 08:18:46 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2015, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on October 29, 2015, 02:26:27 PM
Although the upsets can and often do happen in ODAC play last week with the top 4 playing the bottom 4 picking was easy. This week is no different except for EH and WL. Obviously, JK and all General fans are pulling for a win.  EH fans know that it's impossible to win the ODAC if they lose. HSC and GC fans should know that unless WL losses this game and 1 more their title hopes are also dashed. There's a lot of positive energy flowing EH's way.  This game is the biggest game all year for WL. I think they caught GC by surprise and a HSC team still trying to find itself early in the season. No one at GC or HSC thought at the time that WL would be 7-0. But they are and EH knows their only shot is by beating them. It's a huge game for both teams and others within the ODAC. Should be interesting.
I think the Generals played well in the Guilford game, but the concussion to Pawlowski looms large.

Regardless of the QB.  Pawloski is excellent. No one can disagree. But they only scored 3 points when he did play. I bet most of the GC faithful would have thought at that point in the season that GC would win over WL with or without him. GC did back him up with senior QB that did not turn the ball over. That's why I say GC was taken by surprise.

GC have been no where near as dominant as some expected since starting ODAC play.  Looking just at the 3 common opponents the scores between both WL and GC have been similar. GC and WL overwhelmed Averett.  WL beat RMC on the road in a close game while GC blew RMC out at home. Meanwhile WL crushed BC at home while GC won by 3 over BC on the road.

If WL wins the title this year they will have most certainly earned it. Every team has injuries.  It really stinks when it's at a position like QB. If it helps (I know it doesn't) HSC wishes you guys had won at WL too. But it wasn't to be.
Well, there were a couple of factors that day ... the early injury to Pawlowski (GC was up 3-0 and driving), it was raining (favors a running game, I think) and GC missed a 40 plus yard FG and, to their credit, W&L hit a 51 yarder (longest in school history).  I also know Guilford got a letter of apology from the league office for missed calls (I've heard 4) that greatly influenced the outcome.  One was a fumble recovery by GC that the officials said was an incomplete pass after the W&L QB lost it and then batted it and one was on the onside kick recovery (from my vantage point looking straight across the line of scrimmage, I think it went 11 + yards, but it was overturned as being less than 10.)  You say Guilford's back-up is a senior and he is, but that's 4 years of maybe 40 snaps in live games (counting the W&L game).

I am not begrudging W&L ... they have played great.  You can't argue with a team that's 7-0.  I also personally don't think a game by game comparison of scores is always valid ... coaches have different philosophies and the ebb and flow is different based on so many factors.  Do I think Guilford is a better team than W&L?  Yes, I do ... just not on 3-Oct-15 from 1-4 pm.

I still have hope GC can go 9-1 and earn a playoff spot, hopefully with W&L.  I know it's a longshot and if we lose another, so be it.  But I will always think this whole season and the 4-year careers of these great seniors will boil down to an unfortunate concussion that changed the complexion of that game and, with it, their season.  If you're a DI team with one loss, what a great bowl you'd get!

Go Quakers.  Go ODAC.

I new nothing of the bad officiating. But that too is a part of D3 football. Pawloski was actually hurt a on 3rd and 5 incomplete pass and GC attempted a fake punt on the play after his injury. Not exactly driving the ball.  But I get it, like opponents aren't always the best measuring stick.  IMO, it is second best to head to head. In the head to head WL won. Against like opponents they are similar. GC could have won the ODAC last year if they beat SU or have gone for 2 at HSC. It's always a play here or an injury there. GC is not the only team it's happen too this year. It happens to all the teams. If HSC goes 8-2 and WL goes 10-0 HSC will have lost 2 games to teams with combined 20-0 record. They will always say what if WL doesn't convert that 3rd and 9 pass on their last drive. What if HSC had scored with 1st and goal from the 5 and 4th and goal from the 1/2.

Heck if HSC wins out they too could say whole season and the 4-year careers of their great seniors will boiled down to an unfortunate concussion of the GC QB that changed the complexion of the WL/GC game and, with it, HSC's season.  It sucks but only when you're on the short end. WL won't put an asterisk on the trophy if they win it.
Hampden Sydney College
ODAC Champions 77, 82, 83, 87, 07, 09, 11, 13, 14
NCAA Playoffs - 77, 07, 09, 10, 11, 13, 14
The "Game" 60 wins and counting...
11/18/2018 Wally referred to me as Chief and admitted "I don't know about that!"

allsky7

Quote from: hasanova on October 30, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 30, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
Seen the Jackets start slow and finish strong too many times. No science behind this call......just gut.......Macon beats Shenny.  :o

Tigers have to stop getting behind in Q1 on TO's.......H-S wins but will be by single digit margin.

E&H beats W&L at home....IMHO Wasp are due for a big win.

Quakes beat CUA by a couple TD's.

.......and MARYVILLE wins D3 NC in Salem over Purple Raiders.  Oh sorry....delusion on wrong board.  ;D
What are you smoking, allsky7?  lol

Hey.....I picked your Quakers Hasa! A bold call.....I know. LOL Actually....I was just seeing who was paying attention.  ;D GO TIGERS.....GO FIGHTING SCOTS!

hasanova

19-7 Quakers in 2nd.  Three TD passes by Pawlowski, but missed 23 yard FG and two PATs.