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hscathletics

Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2015, 04:29:20 PM
Quote from: hscathletics on November 18, 2015, 04:19:41 PM
You can send all the emails you want to Brad Bankston but chances are it's something the coaches would have to vote on to send it to the athletic directors for them to vote on, or just a topic sent directly for the ADs to vote on. Nothing as significant as this happens without athletic director approval.

Oh I'm sure it doesn't. I understand the real power in the conference is the membership and the commissioner is the guiding force. But it was nice that he took time to send me a response. I have no idea if the ADs/Coaches think this is a good idea. As a fan, correctly the bottom stakeholder in DIII, I just thought I would voice support for what the MAC/CC did and wonder if it was a possibility for the ODAC.

I certainly don't expect my email will jump start a discussion on the issue, it probably was already planned as a curiosity in the very least, but it really was all I can do and didn't take much time or effort to do it. I really didn't expect anything, so the response was really appreciated.
Yep if there is one thing they do well it's communication (of course, the ODAC does a lot of things well!)

jknezek

W&L vs TMC getting a lot of mentions in the playoff surprise column. There are never many road wins in the first round of the playoffs. W&L is going to have to be darn near perfect to pull this one off...

HSCTiger fan

They've been perfect this year. No reason to stop now. Go Generals! 
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: HSCTiger fan on November 19, 2015, 05:26:00 PM
They've been perfect this year. No reason to stop now. Go Generals!

TM has also been THAT kind of perfect.  The winner is gonna be whoever comes closest to being perfect EVERY PLAY. ;)


tigerFanAlso2

Jk

W&L wins 35 to 28. Go Generals !!!!

jknezek

Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on November 20, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
Jk

W&L wins 35 to 28. Go Generals !!!!

I'm on board with that. We will see. But I sure hope so.

SaintsFAN

Quote from: jknezek on November 19, 2015, 03:48:36 PM
W&L vs TMC getting a lot of mentions in the playoff surprise column. There are never many road wins in the first round of the playoffs. W&L is going to have to be darn near perfect to pull this one off...

I'm glad it seems TMC is in a toss up.  You'll get our best efforts tomorrow.  The leading RB was out at Case .. Those injuries have healed and I expect a good game. 

One thing I don't believe will happen:  I think TMC scores more than 28.  They average 300 lbs each on the OL. 
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jknezek

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2015, 01:21:22 PM

One thing I don't believe will happen:  I think TMC scores more than 28.  They average 300 lbs each on the OL.

Big boys. If they are quick it's a big advantage. Generally you can pick two in DIII: big, fast, or talented. They certainly are big if those numbers aren't inflated too much! W&L doesn't have that kind of size.

SaintsFAN

Quote from: jknezek on November 20, 2015, 01:32:09 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2015, 01:21:22 PM

One thing I don't believe will happen:  I think TMC scores more than 28.  They average 300 lbs each on the OL.

Big boys. If they are quick it's a big advantage. Generally you can pick two in DIII: big, fast, or talented. They certainly are big if those numbers aren't inflated too much! W&L doesn't have that kind of size.

And experienced.  That's what each team has said about TMore - biggest team they've played.  I'm worried about the option for W&L.  But we're going to score when we have the ball.  It'll be fun.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

jknezek

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2015, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 20, 2015, 01:32:09 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2015, 01:21:22 PM

One thing I don't believe will happen:  I think TMC scores more than 28.  They average 300 lbs each on the OL.

Big boys. If they are quick it's a big advantage. Generally you can pick two in DIII: big, fast, or talented. They certainly are big if those numbers aren't inflated too much! W&L doesn't have that kind of size.

And experienced.  That's what each team has said about TMore - biggest team they've played.  I'm worried about the option for W&L.  But we're going to score when we have the ball.  It'll be fun.

I think you will score also. That's where I started my analysis. I think a lot of it will come down to number of possessions. If W&L can stay on the field for drives and eat up clock and limit TMC to around 4/5 possessions per half they need less than a 50% stop rate. If TMC starts getting 6 or 7 possessions a half I think it's a tough mountain for W&L to climb unless TMC is absolutely hopeless against the option and it is just a Baylor/TCU game.

I see W&L basically ceding mid-range yards trying to limit big plays and make TMC really start to work once they hit the red zone. A TMC drive that eats up 7 or 8 minutes, even if it ends in points, probably isn't a bad deal for W&L if they aren't out of striking distance. So if the Saints want to go use those big boys to go 3-5 yards per rush and keep the clock running, W&L might take that trade off until 30 yards out.

On the other hand, W&L needs to keep their offense on the field. Six or 7+ minute drives finished with TDs and playing for a game in the high 30s/low 40s for points for both teams. If the W&L punter steps on the field 3 or 4+ times this won't go well for W&L.

Just my thoughts. I have no real idea and I go back and forth between this being not much different from the last time these teams met and W&L having a decent shot.

SaintsFAN

Agreed.  And that's not a slight on W&L.  But TMC gets their points in games. 

I think W&L has definitely gotten better since 2010 - but so has TMC.  The wildcard is that option. 

I think it's a shootout.  If TMC gets 6-7 a carry, like they are used to - it opens up the play action and the senior WR's, one of whom you'll love not just his name but his game too.  That puts pressure on that offense to score.  I don't think it comes to that - I'm thinking 48-35 range.  I've seen what Navy's option does to Notre Dame, and know how this can go.  But we also have the Jimmys and Joes in that D Front 7 to win at assignment football.  We'll see.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

jknezek

2 of 3 guys picked W&L in Triple Take. Not sure how I feel about that. While I picked W&L in the pick'ems, that seems like a loyalty pick for me. Objectively, TMC's jimmies and joes worry me.

SaintsFAN

I saw that on Triple Take.  I don't know what to think of that. 

I think we are in for a doozy of a game.  But I hate that we drew an option team. 

My hope is they start slow like in 2010 and we can race out to a lead.  This offense is light years ahead of that 2010 offense.  Starting with a QB who isn't a week away from quitting at halftime at UMHB.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

HSCTiger fan

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2015, 02:49:31 PM
Agreed.  And that's not a slight on W&L.  But TMC gets their points in games. 

I think W&L has definitely gotten better since 2010 - but so has TMC.  The wildcard is that option. 

I think it's a shootout.  If TMC gets 6-7 a carry, like they are used to - it opens up the play action and the senior WR's, one of whom you'll love not just his name but his game too.  That puts pressure on that offense to score.  I don't think it comes to that - I'm thinking 48-35 range.  I've seen what Navy's option does to Notre Dame, and know how this can go.  But we also have the Jimmys and Joes in that D Front 7 to win at assignment football.  We'll see.

WL will eat up  the clock with their O and their option attack is a big focus as it should be. But IMO it's their D that wins games. If they have a shot tomorrow it will be because they cause turnovers and hold TM under 30. Maybe they can maybe they can't but that's what has worked all year. I don't see WL winning a shootout.  Good luck Generals!  The entire ODAC is rooting for you! 
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