FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[jknezek]

Here's a press release that mentions UMU's attendance. I know they have done other recruiting fairs in FL as well:

http://www.bcaasports.com/blusteins_corner/small_college.htm

[jknezek]

The NCAA for the most part allows D3 to police themselves.

Yep. And if UMU was out of line I guarantee you someone in the OAC would have raised a stink. They did catch E&H for something and we've seen other actions in DIII periodically. Something so blatant as off-campus recruiting if it is not allowed when there is a media report, a twitter post, and more of LK being off campus? There would have been holy he!! raised if it wasn't allowed.

Find something that is concrete about UMU doing something wrong. Simply saying they are too good for too long so they must be cheating is nothing more than internet rumor mongering and simply pointless.

[HSCTiger fan]

I'm not suggesting they are cheating. I'm suggesting it's ludicrous for a D3 program to fly around the country to recruit a single player. You are speculating that LK went to a recruiting fair. Ypsi says he went to FL to get a player.

The OAC rule - as I have stated - may have changed. I don't know what the rule is today.

i never said "they are too good for too long so they must be cheating". Where do you get that?

[wally_wabash]

When the NCAA came up with the idea of D3 I doubt they considered the thought of coaches/ADs flying around the country recruiting athletes to play non-scholarship sports.  I find it amusing that MU or any other school would spend their resources in such a manner.

I don't think this is crazy talk at all.  I grew up in southern Oregon.  I met face to face with the then Wabash Dean of Admissions during my senior year of high school.  He traveled a long way to talk to prospective students in the area.  I wasn't being recruited to play a sport, but I was definitely being recruited.  You don't have to squint too hard to see that athletics is a valuable arm of the college's admissions function. 

Wabash added varsity lacrosse last year to the list of sports sponsored by the college.  While lacrosse is fun and gaining a lot of steam in the youth levels here in the Midwest, we'd be blind to not see this as an avenue for Wabash to increase their profile in the northeast and mid-Atlantic regions.  When it's being done right, admissions and athletics are very complimentary pieces. 

[HSCTiger fan]

When the NCAA came up with the idea of D3 I doubt they considered the thought of coaches/ADs flying around the country recruiting athletes to play non-scholarship sports.  I find it amusing that MU or any other school would spend their resources in such a manner.

I don't think this is crazy talk at all.  I grew up in southern Oregon.  I met face to face with the then Wabash Dean of Admissions during my senior year of high school.  He traveled a long way to talk to prospective students in the area. I wasn't being recruited to play a sport, but I was definitely being recruited.  You don't have to squint too hard to see that athletics is a valuable arm of the college's admissions function. 

Wabash added varsity lacrosse last year to the list of sports sponsored by the college.  While lacrosse is fun and gaining a lot of steam in the youth levels here in the Midwest, we'd be blind to not see this as an avenue for Wabash to increase their profile in the northeast and mid-Atlantic regions.  When it's being done right, admissions and athletics are very complimentary pieces.

Students - plural. Not student - singular.

Mr. Ypsi wrote -"AD Larry Kehres personally flew to Florida to watch one coveted recruit play (he got him)." 

[jknezek]

i never said "they are too good for too long so they must be cheating". Where do you get that?

You are correct. You didn't. I take it back.

Students - plural. Not student - singular.

We only know about the one. He could have been there for more. Or it could have been a side trip from something else. Lots of coaches do sweeps through areas. If this was the top target he might have made sure to be at the game, while spending other time tracking down other kids.

[wally_wabash]

When the NCAA came up with the idea of D3 I doubt they considered the thought of coaches/ADs flying around the country recruiting athletes to play non-scholarship sports.  I find it amusing that MU or any other school would spend their resources in such a manner.

I don't think this is crazy talk at all.  I grew up in southern Oregon.  I met face to face with the then Wabash Dean of Admissions during my senior year of high school.  He traveled a long way to talk to prospective students in the area. I wasn't being recruited to play a sport, but I was definitely being recruited.  You don't have to squint too hard to see that athletics is a valuable arm of the college's admissions function. 

Wabash added varsity lacrosse last year to the list of sports sponsored by the college.  While lacrosse is fun and gaining a lot of steam in the youth levels here in the Midwest, we'd be blind to not see this as an avenue for Wabash to increase their profile in the northeast and mid-Atlantic regions.  When it's being done right, admissions and athletics are very complimentary pieces.

Students - plural. Not student - singular.

Mr. Ypsi wrote -"AD Larry Kehres personally flew to Florida to watch one coveted recruit play (he got him)."

Do we know he wasn't also looking at other players on this trip?  Sure, there's the one everybody wants to talk about, but what about others that either don't have the same profile or didn't decide to go to Mount Union?  And even if this trip was only to go see and meet with this one student, why would the rest of us care?  Mount Union can do whatever they want with their own resources. 

[HSCTiger fan]

When the NCAA came up with the idea of D3 I doubt they considered the thought of coaches/ADs flying around the country recruiting athletes to play non-scholarship sports.  I find it amusing that MU or any other school would spend their resources in such a manner.

I don't think this is crazy talk at all.  I grew up in southern Oregon.  I met face to face with the then Wabash Dean of Admissions during my senior year of high school.  He traveled a long way to talk to prospective students in the area. I wasn't being recruited to play a sport, but I was definitely being recruited.  You don't have to squint too hard to see that athletics is a valuable arm of the college's admissions function. 

Wabash added varsity lacrosse last year to the list of sports sponsored by the college.  While lacrosse is fun and gaining a lot of steam in the youth levels here in the Midwest, we'd be blind to not see this as an avenue for Wabash to increase their profile in the northeast and mid-Atlantic regions.  When it's being done right, admissions and athletics are very complimentary pieces.

Students - plural. Not student - singular.

Mr. Ypsi wrote -"AD Larry Kehres personally flew to Florida to watch one coveted recruit play (he got him)."

Do we know he wasn't also looking at other players on this trip?  Sure, there's the one everybody wants to talk about, but what about others that either don't have the same profile or didn't decide to go to Mount Union?  And even if this trip was only to go see and meet with this one student, why would the rest of us care?  Mount Union can do whatever they want with their own resources.

I'm not being speculative. I'm writing based on what Ypsi wrote - ONE Player. UMU can do anything they want to do, just like you or I can have an opinion.

[wally_wabash]

When the NCAA came up with the idea of D3 I doubt they considered the thought of coaches/ADs flying around the country recruiting athletes to play non-scholarship sports.  I find it amusing that MU or any other school would spend their resources in such a manner.

I don't think this is crazy talk at all.  I grew up in southern Oregon.  I met face to face with the then Wabash Dean of Admissions during my senior year of high school.  He traveled a long way to talk to prospective students in the area. I wasn't being recruited to play a sport, but I was definitely being recruited.  You don't have to squint too hard to see that athletics is a valuable arm of the college's admissions function. 

Wabash added varsity lacrosse last year to the list of sports sponsored by the college.  While lacrosse is fun and gaining a lot of steam in the youth levels here in the Midwest, we'd be blind to not see this as an avenue for Wabash to increase their profile in the northeast and mid-Atlantic regions.  When it's being done right, admissions and athletics are very complimentary pieces.

Students - plural. Not student - singular.

Mr. Ypsi wrote -"AD Larry Kehres personally flew to Florida to watch one coveted recruit play (he got him)."

Do we know he wasn't also looking at other players on this trip?  Sure, there's the one everybody wants to talk about, but what about others that either don't have the same profile or didn't decide to go to Mount Union?  And even if this trip was only to go see and meet with this one student, why would the rest of us care?  Mount Union can do whatever they want with their own resources.

I'm not being speculative. I'm writing based on what Ypsi wrote - ONE Player. UMU can do anything they want to do, just like you or I can have an opinion.

Whether you're being speculative or not, you didn't answer the question.  The question is- so what?  Who cares if Mount Union sent Larry Kehres to Florida to meet with just one student? 

[HSCTiger fan]

When the NCAA came up with the idea of D3 I doubt they considered the thought of coaches/ADs flying around the country recruiting athletes to play non-scholarship sports.  I find it amusing that MU or any other school would spend their resources in such a manner.

I don't think this is crazy talk at all.  I grew up in southern Oregon.  I met face to face with the then Wabash Dean of Admissions during my senior year of high school.  He traveled a long way to talk to prospective students in the area. I wasn't being recruited to play a sport, but I was definitely being recruited.  You don't have to squint too hard to see that athletics is a valuable arm of the college's admissions function. 

Wabash added varsity lacrosse last year to the list of sports sponsored by the college.  While lacrosse is fun and gaining a lot of steam in the youth levels here in the Midwest, we'd be blind to not see this as an avenue for Wabash to increase their profile in the northeast and mid-Atlantic regions.  When it's being done right, admissions and athletics are very complimentary pieces.

Students - plural. Not student - singular.

Mr. Ypsi wrote -"AD Larry Kehres personally flew to Florida to watch one coveted recruit play (he got him)."

Do we know he wasn't also looking at other players on this trip?  Sure, there's the one everybody wants to talk about, but what about others that either don't have the same profile or didn't decide to go to Mount Union?  And even if this trip was only to go see and meet with this one student, why would the rest of us care?  Mount Union can do whatever they want with their own resources.

I'm not being speculative. I'm writing based on what Ypsi wrote - ONE Player. UMU can do anything they want to do, just like you or I can have an opinion.

Whether you're being speculative or not, you didn't answer the question.  The question is- so what?  Who cares if Mount Union sent Larry Kehres to Florida to meet with just one student?

Why is that "the question"?  Because you say so?  You've posted thousands of posts.  I could ask you the same question about your posts. Who cares?  In your case,  it's all those Wabash fans who think Wabash football is where the universe starts and ends. Who cares? In my case? No one! 

[wally_wabash]

Huh?  Way to stay on topic, boss.  That's too bad.  Could have been an interesting conversation. 

[HSCTiger fan]

Go have it on the NCAC board if you think it's that interesting.  You'll have everyone agreeing with whatever you have to say over there.  I don't know for sure what the OAC rule is. I really don't care either.  You asked who cares?  Not me.  I doubt anyone does...boss. 

[pg04]

This only seems appropriate:

[hscathletics]

This only seems appropriate:

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[tigerFanAlso2]

tiger Fan

You must learn how to get along !!!