FB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[jknezek]

Jk

On another note how do you see the odac ooc games playing out this week ? I'm pulling for your Generals to pull the big upset.

WEEK 1
W&L is a 2 TD dog. I've got hope and I went with them in the pick'em for loyalty, but it would be a good sized upset.
Catholic should be able to beat McDaniel at home. Call Catholic a 7 point favorite
RMC should be able to beat Dickinson on the road. Call RMC a 4 point favorite
E&H shouldn't be stressed by Ferrum on the road. Call E&H a 10 point favorite
Bridgewater and Gettysburg is interesting. I'll take the Bullets at home but neither has been very good recently. 4 points
HSC should handle Averett without too much trouble on the road. 10 point favorite
Shenandoah should handle Gallaudet easily even on the road. 10 point favorite
Guilford should run roughshod over Greensboro at home. 17 point favorite.

The interesting thing here is how much Centennial/ODAC tie up we are seeing. The CC only plays one OOC per year, to have 4 games landing with the ODAC is a good thing.

WEEK 2
Catholic at Rochester. Don't know. Don't know much about Rochester. Suspect they will take Catholic at home. Long ride
TMC at Bridgewater.  If Bridgewater is within 24 points this will be a good result.
CNU at HSC. Toss up. CNU is swimming with bigger fish these days. HSC might not be what they were. These games have a history of being competitive
W&L at Sewanee. W&L should be a 17 point favorite, even on the road. I can't wait to be there
Brevard at E&H. No idea. I'm assuming E&H can win by 10. Brevard has been putrid for quite a while.
Averett at RMC. RMC giving 14 if the Yellow Jackets are who I think they are.
Ferrum at Shenandoah. Hornetss giving 5. A little more than home field
Methodist at Guilford. Quakers giving 14. Methodist may be a bit better than they were, Guilford not what they were last year, but I don't see the Quakers letting Methodist hang around.

A more typical OOC week though the CNU/HSC game is usually entertaining. TMC at Bridgewater won't be. At all. Introduction to Brevard. A team I suspect will keep showing up in ODAC OOC contests going forward.

Week 3
Ferrum at HSC at a random field. HSC giving 17
Bridgewater at Apprentice. Bridgewater giving 10
Methodist at RMC. RMC giving 12
NC Wes at Shenandoah. Toss up
Catholic at Coast Guard. CG giving 7.
E&H at M'Ville. E&H giving 3
CMS at W&L. W&L giving 7. Longest trip in DIII regular season?
Guilford at Averett . Guilford giving 14

NC Wes at Shenandoah, Catholic at CG, E&H at M'ville and CMS at W&L could all be good games. CMS at W&L is fascinating as it is not a match up I would have thought we'd ever see and both teams seem to be on upward trajectories.

[hscathletics]

It won't last unless HSC is losing relative quality. Eventually the better team will go back to winning consistently. But I think there is a bit more of a problem. HSC just isn't as dominant as they've been in the ODAC. For example, in the last 4 years they've lost as many ODAC games as they lost in the previous 8 seasons. That tells me the rest of the league is either catching up a bit, or HSC is coming back to the field a bit. Of course you need to factor there is one more conference game a year, but adding Shenandoah shouldn't have been a strain on the most consistent program in the league.

Time will tell in the next few years. How good Guilford and W&L can continue to be season in and out will have a lot to say about it. As well as anyone else who can ratchet up the level.

Perhaps it is a bit of both, hard to tell when the competition within the ODAC has clearly improved. Guilford and W&L are the two biggest prime examples of that.

Guilford used to be mediocre to pretty bad every year but is now a legitimate squad. Three straight winning seasons, something that hasn't been done since they had four straight from 1983-86. Certainly looks like a team that can be an ODAC contender from here on out with the way Coach Rusiewicz is recruiting.

W&L the past 6 years has had some of the best football teams they have ever had. The 2010-present "decade" has been their winningest decade since the Treaty of Versailles was signed.

Emory & Henry is on the upward trend under Coach Newsome and should be a contending squad again. Macon has been an overall pretty competitive team for much of the past few years, especially when it comes to playing against the Tigers, and while Bridgewater isn't what they were in the early 2000s, they can still beat you on any given day if they bring it. Catholic and Shenandoah almost always give us a a very hard fought battle as well.

[tigerFanAlso2]

HSCAthletics

HSC gets the best shot every week in odac play as there is not one school in the odac that likes us and they all want to beat us, badly. As a result we cannot afford to have an off week but we all know it is impossible to play 10 games in 11 weeks and be at your best all 10 games. I like the fact odac hates HSC because that means we have won lots of games/championships but it also means a few poor to average recruiting classes will get you in trouble. To keep this ship moving forward, recruiting cannot afford to have an off day. Given the cost to attend, I'm not sure if it is possible to not have an off day/year with our recruiting efforts whereas the schools that you mentioned that have improved, probably enjoy an advantage over us when it comes to cost excluding W&L and I'm fairly certain the two schools are even talking to the same student-athletes.

[hscathletics]

HSCAthletics

HSC gets the best shot every week in odac play as there is not one school in the odac that likes us and they all want to beat us, badly. As a result we cannot afford to have an off week but we all know it is impossible to play 10 games in 11 weeks and be at your best all 10 games. I like the fact odac hates HSC because that means we have won lots of games/championships but it also means a few poor to average recruiting classes will get you in trouble. To keep this ship moving forward, recruiting cannot afford to have an off day. Given the cost to attend, I'm not sure if it is possible to not have an off day/year with our recruiting efforts whereas the schools that you mentioned that have improved, probably enjoy an advantage over us when it comes to cost excluding W&L and I'm fairly certain the two schools are even talking to the same student-athletes.

Doubt there is much overlap with recruiting given W&L's recruiting focus is nationally instead of regionally like H-SC. For example, W&L has just 30 kids from VA and NC, H-SC has 85. And its 18 vs. 73 when only looking at VA.

[hasanova]

It won't last unless HSC is losing relative quality. Eventually the better team will go back to winning consistently. But I think there is a bit more of a problem. HSC just isn't as dominant as they've been in the ODAC. For example, in the last 4 years they've lost as many ODAC games as they lost in the previous 8 seasons. That tells me the rest of the league is either catching up a bit, or HSC is coming back to the field a bit. Of course you need to factor there is one more conference game a year, but adding Shenandoah shouldn't have been a strain on the most consistent program in the league.

Time will tell in the next few years. How good Guilford and W&L can continue to be season in and out will have a lot to say about it. As well as anyone else who can ratchet up the level.

Perhaps it is a bit of both, hard to tell when the competition within the ODAC has clearly improved. Guilford and W&L are the two biggest prime examples of that.

Guilford used to be mediocre to pretty bad every year but is now a legitimate squad. Three straight winning seasons, something that hasn't been done since they had four straight from 1983-86. Certainly looks like a team that can be an ODAC contender from here on out with the way Coach Rusiewicz is recruiting.

W&L the past 6 years has had some of the best football teams they have ever had. The 2010-present "decade" has been their winningest decade since the Treaty of Versailles was signed.

Emory & Henry is on the upward trend under Coach Newsome and should be a contending squad again. Macon has been an overall pretty competitive team for much of the past few years, especially when it comes to playing against the Tigers, and while Bridgewater isn't what they were in the early 2000s, they can still beat you on any given day if they bring it. Catholic and Shenandoah almost always give us a a very hard fought battle as well.

We were mediocre to bad almost every year.  So true.  All true Quaker fans could rattle off the rare 8-2 seasons ... best in school history.  Actually, four straight "non-losing" seasons if you count 2012's 5-5 followed by 6-4, 8-2 and 9-1.  I agree, I firmly believe Coach Rusiewicz has created a perennial contender.

[jknezek]

Game Day! I'm excited. Told my wife not to expect me to help out at the kids' bedtime tonight. She wasn't impressed. Hoping for a W&L win, looking for a good game and a way to set the tone for a strong season. I want to see the Generals stay healthy, move the ball confidently, and not give up easy points. I want to see us get 5 yards on first down so we aren't getting stuck second and third and long, and, as with all option teams, keep the offensive penalties to a minimum.

Go Generals!

[hasanova]

Game Day! I'm excited. Told my wife not to expect me to help out at the kids' bedtime tonight. She wasn't impressed. Hoping for a W&L win, looking for a good game and a way to set the tone for a strong season. I want to see the Generals stay healthy, move the ball confidently, and not give up easy points. I want to see us get 5 yards on first down so we aren't getting stuck second and third and long, and, as with all option teams, keep the offensive penalties to a minimum.

Go Generals!

Good luck to the Generals tonight!

[tigerFanAlso2]

make the odac proud. conference could use a big ooc win. no idea what to expect but pulling for your boys against jhu.

[jknezek]

So I'm finally getting a chance to dig around in Kickoff more than just the most obvious stuff and I came across this interesting gem. Timmy Chang, the Hawaii QB who held all those D1 passing records, is the new E&H offensive coordinator. Order Kickoff people. It's interesting.

[hscathletics]

So I'm finally getting a chance to dig around in Kickoff more than just the most obvious stuff and I came across this interesting gem. Timmy Chang, the Hawaii QB who held all those D1 passing records, is the new E&H offensive coordinator. Order Kickoff people. It's interesting.

Yeah somehow Newsome has a Hawaii connection. Billy Ray Stutzman is in his second year as an assistant there and is also a Hawaii grad. Crazig Stutzman, who was an assistant at E&H last year, is also a Hawaii grad, and the older brother of Billy Ray.

[jknezek]

Seems an odd combination. But coaching is a tough gig. You got to be somewhere to keep the dream alive and it's darned hard to get a break through to a HC position at any college level.

[HSCTiger74]

So I'm finally getting a chance to dig around in Kickoff more than just the most obvious stuff and I came across this interesting gem. Timmy Chang, the Hawaii QB who held all those D1 passing records, is the new E&H offensive coordinator. Order Kickoff people. It's interesting.

Yeah somehow Newsome has a Hawaii connection. Billy Ray Stutzman is in his second year as an assistant there and is also a Hawaii grad. Crazig Stutzman, who was an assistant at E&H last year, is also a Hawaii grad, and the older brother of Billy Ray.

I don't know if he got any advance tips from the Stutzmans, but Hawaii to SW Virginia must have been quite a culture shock.

[jknezek]

First big W&L gain pulled back by a flag. Disappointing. First drive killer. That's what we can't have happen. Brought back a 30 yard gain and here comes the punting unit. Not what I wanted to our first drive. And a shanked punt gives them a short field.

[jknezek]

This could get ugly in a hurry. W&L can't get anything right on offense and the punter has shanked both punts. One 10 yards, one 11. Short fields are giving JHU much too easy a path to quick scores.

[Scots13]

This could get ugly in a hurry. W&L can't get anything right on offense and the punter has shanked both punts. One 10 yards, one 11. Short fields are giving JHU much too easy a path to quick scores.

And JHU's tailback is quick and runs downhill. He's making 4 new starters up front look good in the red zone.