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CMR

For the second week, RMC performs well in all phases of the game.  Maybe, Arruza, 'the ultimate control freak', knows what he's doing.  Unlike HSC, RMC matched, even exceeded, the speed and physical play of AU.  AU became frustrated with the speed and strength of RMC and quickly became undisciplined and RMC kept their focus.  AU had 175 yards in penalties.  Time will tell, but RMC may become the surprise in the ODAC.

jknezek

Not to all of us. I've been pointing at RMC since their finish last year. Guilford is looking awful good as well right now. We will find out after the silly season ends.

HSCTiger fan

1100 yards of offense
680 yards passing
83 points
7.25 yards per play
75 of 120 minutes of possession

These are the ugly numbers allowed by the HSC defense. Countless missed tackles, little to no pressure on the QB, DBs being burned on nearly every throw, and when teams run the LBs are not making tackles. 16 tackles by 3 starting LBs yesterday. The D must improve A LOT for HSC to win any game left on their schedule. 
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hasanova

I just took a video peek at Frank R. Campbell Stadium at Averett ... looks as though the Cougars took a big step up from what was there.  Kudos.

hasanova

Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

tigerFanAlso2

HSC needs to get better otherwise this could be a painful season. Tigers have lost four straight games.

W&L avoided disaster. Making that long drive up the mountain can make it difficult to play well. Great comeback.

RMC is looking really good. Look for them to make a run for the odac.

GC evidently has reloaded.


SaintsFAN

Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
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Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

jknezek

Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?

Hasa has said they have a new opponent coming on board, but they aren't going to scrap their cross town Soup Bowl game with Greensboro unless one of them cries uncle. And as Hasa has repeatedly said, travel money is an issue. So you aren't going to see them take an overnight somewhere. That limits the opponent pool to the USASAC mainly. Making sure you are playing at least one of the best teams in the USASAC can be difficult. It isn't a PAC type conference where the same 2 teams are at the top of the league for decades.

hasanova

#19943
Quote from: jknezek on September 12, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?
Hasa has said they have a new opponent coming on board, but they aren't going to scrap their cross town Soup Bowl game with Greensboro unless one of them cries uncle. And as Hasa has repeatedly said, travel money is an issue. So you aren't going to see them take an overnight somewhere. That limits the opponent pool to the USASAC mainly. Making sure you are playing at least one of the best teams in the USASAC can be difficult. It isn't a PAC type conference where the same 2 teams are at the top of the league for decades.
Without a doubt, the HC and AD know the OOC probably cost the Quakers a bid in 2015.  The reality, however, is travel money, proximity and tradition.

GCQ has played GCP in the annual Soup Bowl every season since Greensboro started football in 1997.  Lately, though, it hasn't been much of a rivalry with Guilford having won four in a row and five of the last six, including a cumulative 198-13 thrashing with two shutouts in the past three.  Finally, travel costs can't get much less than 6 miles apart in the same city.

Similar with Methodist ... Guilford's played the Monarchs every season since MU started football in the late 1980's.  With a 2-hour drive from Greensboro to Fayetteville, it's also unlikely to change.

The only opportunity for another opponent appears to be the Averett/SVU/other slot.  I heard we've scheduled DI non-scholarship Davidson home and away in 2017 and 2018.  Not a DIII, but it would be a different test ... again, an easy trip down I-85 to Davidson, north of Charlotte.  Someone also unofficially threw Washington U. of St. Louis in the mix, but I do not know if it's a credible rumor.  CUA void in 2017 also creates a problem ... I'm betting on instate Brevard unless another conference affiliate is found.

Scots13

Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 12, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?
Hasa has said they have a new opponent coming on board, but they aren't going to scrap their cross town Soup Bowl game with Greensboro unless one of them cries uncle. And as Hasa has repeatedly said, travel money is an issue. So you aren't going to see them take an overnight somewhere. That limits the opponent pool to the USASAC mainly. Making sure you are playing at least one of the best teams in the USASAC can be difficult. It isn't a PAC type conference where the same 2 teams are at the top of the league for decades.
Without a doubt, the HC and AD know the OOC probably cost the Quakers a bid in 2015.  The reality, however, is travel money, proximity and tradition.

GCQ has played GCP in the annual Soup Bowl every season since Greensboro started football in 1997.  Lately, though, it has not been much of a rivalry with Guilford having won four in a row and five of the last six, including a cumulative 198-13 thrashing with two shutouts in the past three.  Finally, travel costs can't get much less than 6 miles apart in the same city.

Similar with Methodist ... Guilford's played the Monarchs every season since MU started football in the late 1980's.  With a 2-hour drive, unlikely to change.

The only opportunity for change is the Averett/SVU/other slot.  I heard we've scheduled DI non-scholarship Davidson home and away in 2017 and 2018.  Not a DIII, but it would be a different test ... again, an easy trip down I-85 to Davidson, north of Charlotte.  Someone also unofficially threw Washington U. of St. Louis in the mix, but I do not know if it's a credible rumor.  CUA void in 2017 also creates a problem ... I'm betting on instate Brevard unless another conference affiliate is found.

Brevard might be the same old song and dance in terms of SoS. I'm not thrilled they are a USAC team beginning next year.
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SaintsFAN

#19945
Quote from: Scots13 on September 12, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 12, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?
Hasa has said they have a new opponent coming on board, but they aren't going to scrap their cross town Soup Bowl game with Greensboro unless one of them cries uncle. And as Hasa has repeatedly said, travel money is an issue. So you aren't going to see them take an overnight somewhere. That limits the opponent pool to the USASAC mainly. Making sure you are playing at least one of the best teams in the USASAC can be difficult. It isn't a PAC type conference where the same 2 teams are at the top of the league for decades.
Without a doubt, the HC and AD know the OOC probably cost the Quakers a bid in 2015.  The reality, however, is travel money, proximity and tradition.

GCQ has played GCP in the annual Soup Bowl every season since Greensboro started football in 1997.  Lately, though, it has not been much of a rivalry with Guilford having won four in a row and five of the last six, including a cumulative 198-13 thrashing with two shutouts in the past three.  Finally, travel costs can't get much less than 6 miles apart in the same city.

Similar with Methodist ... Guilford's played the Monarchs every season since MU started football in the late 1980's.  With a 2-hour drive, unlikely to change.

The only opportunity for change is the Averett/SVU/other slot.  I heard we've scheduled DI non-scholarship Davidson home and away in 2017 and 2018.  Not a DIII, but it would be a different test ... again, an easy trip down I-85 to Davidson, north of Charlotte.  Someone also unofficially threw Washington U. of St. Louis in the mix, but I do not know if it's a credible rumor.  CUA void in 2017 also creates a problem ... I'm betting on instate Brevard unless another conference affiliate is found.

Brevard might be the same old song and dance in terms of SoS. I'm not thrilled they are a USAC team beginning next year.

Never know, they could pull a CNU in Year 1.

Thanks for the info everyone.  I was curious.  I'm also doing my due diligence on Guilford.  You can only play who is on your schedule, a lesson I know well from my time at TMC.  We couldn't find 10 teams in Division 3 to play us within a 400 mile radius and had budget issues dictating that distance.  It led to us playing Butler, Dayton, Morehead State, Evansville and even Montana (when they were defending 1-AA Champs in a payday we needed).  This is in addition to D2 and NAIA schools. 

We were held out of the playoffs in 1995 when we had a team that was more than Stagg-worthy because we didn't play enough D3 competition to crack the Top 4 in the North Region.  Despite beating Butler's azzes at their place we were left out because 5 teams finished 10-0 that year. 

Anyways thanks for the info and my trip down memory lane.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

hasanova

#19946
Doubtful on Brevard winning the USASAC ... I think middle of the pack at best.  They were overwhelmed in DII.

In my opinion, Brevard will not help anyone's SOS in the foreseeable future.

HSCTiger74

Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 12, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 12, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?
Hasa has said they have a new opponent coming on board, but they aren't going to scrap their cross town Soup Bowl game with Greensboro unless one of them cries uncle. And as Hasa has repeatedly said, travel money is an issue. So you aren't going to see them take an overnight somewhere. That limits the opponent pool to the USASAC mainly. Making sure you are playing at least one of the best teams in the USASAC can be difficult. It isn't a PAC type conference where the same 2 teams are at the top of the league for decades.
Without a doubt, the HC and AD know the OOC probably cost the Quakers a bid in 2015.  The reality, however, is travel money, proximity and tradition.

GCQ has played GCP in the annual Soup Bowl every season since Greensboro started football in 1997.  Lately, though, it has not been much of a rivalry with Guilford having won four in a row and five of the last six, including a cumulative 198-13 thrashing with two shutouts in the past three.  Finally, travel costs can't get much less than 6 miles apart in the same city.

Similar with Methodist ... Guilford's played the Monarchs every season since MU started football in the late 1980's.  With a 2-hour drive, unlikely to change.

The only opportunity for change is the Averett/SVU/other slot.  I heard we've scheduled DI non-scholarship Davidson home and away in 2017 and 2018.  Not a DIII, but it would be a different test ... again, an easy trip down I-85 to Davidson, north of Charlotte.  Someone also unofficially threw Washington U. of St. Louis in the mix, but I do not know if it's a credible rumor.  CUA void in 2017 also creates a problem ... I'm betting on instate Brevard unless another conference affiliate is found.

Brevard might be the same old song and dance in terms of SoS. I'm not thrilled they are a USAC team beginning next year.

Never know, they could pull a CNU in Year 1.

  Speaking of which (whom?), you could always try to schedule something with CNU. They aren't much farther away than Brevard
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hasanova

Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 12, 2016, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 10:10:55 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 12, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 12, 2016, 09:19:23 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 12, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 04:37:25 AM
Top 25 poll is out.  Huntingdon from USASAC at #19.  Guilford (21 points) and W&L (13) from ODAC receiving votes and positioned at #32 and #37T, respectively.

I believe Guilford has to toughen up its OOC to receive anything more than they are getting.  I know this horse has been beat to death in here, but I'm wondering if anyone knows what their future schedules look like?
Hasa has said they have a new opponent coming on board, but they aren't going to scrap their cross town Soup Bowl game with Greensboro unless one of them cries uncle. And as Hasa has repeatedly said, travel money is an issue. So you aren't going to see them take an overnight somewhere. That limits the opponent pool to the USASAC mainly. Making sure you are playing at least one of the best teams in the USASAC can be difficult. It isn't a PAC type conference where the same 2 teams are at the top of the league for decades.
Without a doubt, the HC and AD know the OOC probably cost the Quakers a bid in 2015.  The reality, however, is travel money, proximity and tradition.

GCQ has played GCP in the annual Soup Bowl every season since Greensboro started football in 1997.  Lately, though, it has not been much of a rivalry with Guilford having won four in a row and five of the last six, including a cumulative 198-13 thrashing with two shutouts in the past three.  Finally, travel costs can't get much less than 6 miles apart in the same city.

Similar with Methodist ... Guilford's played the Monarchs every season since MU started football in the late 1980's.  With a 2-hour drive, unlikely to change.

The only opportunity for change is the Averett/SVU/other slot.  I heard we've scheduled DI non-scholarship Davidson home and away in 2017 and 2018.  Not a DIII, but it would be a different test ... again, an easy trip down I-85 to Davidson, north of Charlotte.  Someone also unofficially threw Washington U. of St. Louis in the mix, but I do not know if it's a credible rumor.  CUA void in 2017 also creates a problem ... I'm betting on instate Brevard unless another conference affiliate is found.

Brevard might be the same old song and dance in terms of SoS. I'm not thrilled they are a USAC team beginning next year.

Never know, they could pull a CNU in Year 1.

  Speaking of which (whom?), you could always try to schedule something with CNU. They aren't much farther away than Brevard
I'm not the AD or HC, but I have voiced my opinion.  Personally, I find our OOC schedule monotonous and boring.

jknezek

Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
CUA void in 2017 also creates a problem ...

I think all of us who have a good knowledge of DIII are simply dreading this. The coaches and ADs have to be concerned as well. Finding that 10th game has all the hallmarks of a very expensive bear.

On the other hand, at Sewanee this weekend my friend and I got there early, about 10:15 or so as traffic was non-existent. We took a walk around the beautiful campus, for once it wasn't raining, and we were finishing up by peaking into the athletic center. Sewanee Coach Laurendine was passing through the lobby and stopped to chat with us for a few moments. Two guys, one dressed in W&L gear, that were looking at the old history of Sewanee's late 1800s glory days. He wandered up, introduced himself, asked where we were from and why we had come to the game. Chatted a bit about the old history and his previous 2 stints as OC at W&L. Didn't take long, and it was a solid 2.5 hours before the game, but where else but DIII does that happen?

My friend, not a DIII guy but came along for the ride to get a free day from family duty, was blown away when Coach L walked away and I told him he was the opposing team's head coach. He also laughed when I introduced him to W&L's Dean of the College at the alumni tailgate. Coming from UAB, and a large school background, it was completely foreign that people actually know and talk to the top people on campus.

He also thoroughly enjoyed being able to sit field level and watch the game and hear the coaches. Here in AL you can't even do that at h.s. games. Though, like me, he tired quickly of W&L's cowbells. The point of all this? DIII is a truly unique experience, and I feel slightly bad for those that think hanging out with 50,000 drunks in an SEC stadium, watching the game on the big replay screen because you can't see the players, is the best way to enjoy football.