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tigerFanAlso2

Jk

When was the last time odac had no team ranked in South region ?
RMC has gotten better; W&L seems to have turned the corner with that GC result , GC and HSC down from previous years, SU getting better (maybe), BC, E&H and CUA still no factor.
W&L has most favorable remaining schedule with 3 of the last 4 at home, perhaps that will equal another odac title/perhaps RMC goes on the road to beat both W&L and HSC/less likely for HSC to run the table.
Does SU pull a big upset and really mess things up. The last four weeks are going to be fun to watch.
Good luck to all !!!!

jknezek

In the SRFP or in the NCAA Regional Rankings? In the SRFP it's happened a bunch in the last couple years. I don't know about the Regional Rankings. Those happen closer to the end of the season and generally, unless you have a 2 or more loss conference leader, the conferences are all represented.

In the end it really doesn't matter. This is absolutely a single bid conference this year, like most, but even more so this year. So the ODAC champion is going to the playoffs. Now where the champion gets sent is pretty much all that is up for grabs. Short of another absolute fluke of geography like the H-SC/Maryville game, the ODAC champ is going on the road.

tigerFanAlso2

I agree with one exception, if RMC finishes 9-1 and several other teams are upset in the final weeks, RMC might have an opportunity to host, not likely but maybe. Certainly I'm not pulling for RMC to run the table. In reality, if W&L did not host last year not sure if odac will ever host again.

jknezek

Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on October 21, 2016, 10:54:36 AM
I agree with one exception, if RMC finishes 9-1 and several other teams are upset in the final weeks, RMC might have an opportunity to host, not likely but maybe. Certainly I'm not pulling for RMC to run the table. In reality, if W&L did not host last year not sure if odac will ever host again.

Not likely. Their SOS will be at best comparable to W&L's last year, I suspect it might be worse. They will have a loss and probably no results against Regionally Ranked Opponents, when W&L was undefeated and had 1 RRO win last year, Guilford. I see little hope, outside of a geographic fluke, that they would host anything other than the bus drivers needed to take them somewhere unpleasant.


onceamink

Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on October 21, 2016, 10:54:36 AM
I agree with one exception, if RMC finishes 9-1 and several other teams are upset in the final weeks, RMC might have an opportunity to host, not likely but maybe. Certainly I'm not pulling for RMC to run the table. In reality, if W&L did not host last year not sure if odac will ever host again.

Part of the reason W&L didn't host was that W&L was hosting the DIII final four in field hockey.  I believe there were concerns by the NCAA on hosting two NCAA events at the same location (in sight of one another but different fields) at the same time.  Pretty sure that W&L would not have hosted even without field hockey but that certainly played a factor last year.

tigerFanAlso2

familiar with unpleasant stuff; HSC got lucky to host Maryville but the next week really s***** having to fly cross country and back. if HSC had beaten Linfield next week to UWW in -18 degree weather. No thanks. Not sure I would have gone to that one even with a kid playing.

jknezek

Quote from: onceamink on October 21, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on October 21, 2016, 10:54:36 AM
I agree with one exception, if RMC finishes 9-1 and several other teams are upset in the final weeks, RMC might have an opportunity to host, not likely but maybe. Certainly I'm not pulling for RMC to run the table. In reality, if W&L did not host last year not sure if odac will ever host again.

Part of the reason W&L didn't host was that W&L was hosting the DIII final four in field hockey.  I believe there were concerns by the NCAA on hosting two NCAA events at the same location (in sight of one another but different fields) at the same time.  Pretty sure that W&L would not have hosted even without field hockey but that certainly played a factor last year.

I suspect an undefeated ODAC champion would host better than 50% of the time. The problem is we so rarely get an undefeated ODAC champion. There are conferences where it happens more often than not. In the ODAC it has happened 7 times in 44 years. 45 now, since no one can go undefeated this year. Of the 4 times it's happened in the D3 era, Bridgewater hosted all 3 rounds on their way to the Stagg 2001, Bridgewater hosted both games they played in 2002, H-SC hosted in 2009, and W&L got shafted in 2015.

So officially the ODAC has only been shafted with an undefeated champion once, and I think a lot of that had to do with SOS. W&L's two D3 OOC opponents went 3-16 between them, and then they played Apprentice, who went 1-4 against D3 opponents. So 4-20 for OOC opponents against D3 opposition.

tigerFanAlso2

I believe HSC has hosted 2 times. I remember playing JHU and Montclair St in the first round at HSC.

tigerFanAlso2

and of course Maryville but that was a total fluke for a 8-2 team to host

jknezek

Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on October 21, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
I believe HSC has hosted 2 times. I remember playing JHU and Montclair St in the first round at HSC.

That is true. But H-SC was not an undefeated ODAC champion when they hosted Montclair St. They were 9-1 and ended up second fiddle to W&L in the ODAC. Of course W&L was 8-2, so they got shipped out while H-SC stayed home.

I believe the ODAC is something like 5-3 in first round home playoff games in the D3football.com era. E&H lost at home before Bridgewater's run, maybe McDaniel back in the day?, and H-SC has lost twice at home in the first round, JHU in their breakout year and the aforementioned Montclair St game. Bridgewater won 4 first round home games and H-SC has won 1 I think. I don't know about total playoff home games. Bridgewater won 3 on their way to the Stagg, they won 2 twice I think as well. But I think those are the only second round and beyond games an ODAC team has won.

allsky7

Not in the D3.com era......but 9 and 1 (lost 17 to 14 to JMU) HSC hosted Albany State in 1977 playoffs. I was the "ball boy" on the AS side of the field. One of the craziest games I ever witnessed. Tigers losing 35 to 8 at half.....tied the game 38 to 38 before losing 51 to 45.

Birddawg79

2 turn overs each team. W&L defense is playing tough.

jknezek

That was not a HSC team I am used to seeing. Just not good in all phases of the game. Wondering, even in the outside of a hurricane, how they beat Guilford.

HSCTiger74

   Just checked scores for the first time today ... YIKES! :(
TANSTAAFL

jknezek

Wow does next week set up large in Lexington.  W&L's ferocious offense against R-MC's fearsome defense. Offense wins games, defense wins championships?  Likely we test that theory next Saturday. Though Shenandoah 's win against Guilford keeps them in the mix as well.